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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	ed.sweetman@wmich.edu, eugene.teo@eugeneteo.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@kolivas.org
Subject: Re: Ingo Molnar and Con Kolivas 2.6 scheduler patches
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:17:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200307301117.08273.phillips@arcor.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F26957E.7040204@techsource.com>

On Tuesday 29 July 2003 10:40, Timothy Miller wrote:
> IF it's possible to intelligently determine interactivity and other such
> things, and lots of impressive progress is being made in that area, then
> that is definately preferable.

But it's not possible to determine realtimeness automatically, as far as I 
know.

> ...It might help to have an API for real-time processes that is accessible
> by non-root tasks.  If a task sets itself to real-time, its scheduling
> is more predictable, but it gets a shorter timeslice (perhaps) so that
> being real-time doesn't adversely impact the system when abused.

That's precisely what Davide's SCHED_SOFTRR is and does.

> The nice thing about the smart schedulers is that (a) no one has to
> change their apps (although they can tweak to cooperate better), and (b)
> future apps will behave well without us having to anticipate anything.

On the other hand, you want to avoid messing up the kernel just because some 
app is broken.  While it's not always possible to avoid changing apps to fix 
them, in the case of audio apps on Linux at this point in time, it most 
certainly is.

Regards,

Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-29 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-26  9:30 Ingo Molnar and Con Kolivas 2.6 scheduler patches Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-26  9:46 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-26 10:02   ` Ismael Valladolid Torres
2003-07-26 10:10     ` Eugene Teo
2003-07-26 11:24       ` Ed Sweetman
2003-07-26 17:00         ` Rahul Karnik
2003-07-27 15:46         ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-26 16:52           ` Diego Calleja García
2003-07-26 18:35           ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-26 23:01             ` Diego Calleja García
2003-07-28  9:38               ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-28 10:37                 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-07-28 17:06                 ` Diego Calleja García
2003-07-27  2:38             ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-27  7:39               ` Willy Tarreau
2003-07-27  9:12                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-27 11:54                   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-27 20:18             ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-26 22:05               ` Ed Sweetman
2003-08-01 15:38                 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-31 23:02                   ` Ed Sweetman
2003-07-27  2:39               ` Ed Sweetman
2003-07-29 13:56               ` Timothy Miller
2003-07-29 13:57                 ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-29 15:30                   ` Timothy Miller
2003-07-29 15:52                 ` Helge Hafting
2003-07-29 16:26                   ` Timothy Miller
2003-07-30 14:46                 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-29 15:40                   ` Timothy Miller
2003-07-30 16:17                     ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2003-08-08 21:09                   ` Bill Huey
2003-08-06 21:28           ` Rob Landley
2003-08-07  9:34             ` Helge Hafting
2003-08-07 15:42             ` Daniel Phillips
2003-08-07 20:45               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-07 20:51               ` Rob Landley
2003-08-07 21:40                 ` Ed Sweetman
2003-08-07 22:17                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-08  0:01                   ` Rob Landley
2003-08-09 20:52                   ` George Anzinger
2003-08-14  0:24                     ` Rob Landley
2003-08-14  8:01                       ` George Anzinger
2003-08-16  9:10                         ` Rob Landley
2003-08-16 14:29                           ` APM and 2.5.75 not resuming properly Jamie Lokier
2003-08-16 15:03                             ` Stephen Rothwell
2003-08-16 16:12                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-16 20:43                             ` Rob Landley
2003-08-13  3:38                   ` Ingo Molnar and Con Kolivas 2.6 scheduler patches George Anzinger
2003-08-08  6:08                 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-26 12:08       ` Ismael Valladolid Torres
2003-07-26 14:54         ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-26 14:49     ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-26 14:47   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-26 16:42     ` Lou Langholtz
2003-07-26 16:40       ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-26 18:19   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-26 18:31     ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-26 19:20       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-26 19:47       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-27  9:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-27  9:57   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-27 10:02     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-27 10:19       ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-28 22:44     ` Timothy Miller
2003-07-26 14:44 Downing, Thomas

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