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From: Fruhwirth Clemens <clemens-dated-1063627487.e072@endorphin.org>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: nasm over gas?
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:04:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030905120446.GA3111@leto2.endorphin.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030905114220.GB10415@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>

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On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 01:42:20PM +0200, Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Thu, 4 September 2003 12:42:45 +0200, Fruhwirth Clemens wrote:
>
> Do some benchmarks on lots of different machines and measure the
> performance of the asm and c code.  If it's faster on PPro but not on
> PIII or Athlon, forget about it.
>
> How big is the .text of the asm and c variant?  If the text of yours
> is much bigger, you just traded 2fish performance for general
> performance.  Everything else will suffer from cache misses.  Forget
> your microbenchmark, your variant will make the machine slower.

Men! Why is everyone doubting the usefulness of assembler optimized parts?
It's twice as fast on my Athlon. I assert the same is true for P3/P4. Just
test.

twofish-i586.ko's .text section is smaller than the kernel's twofish.ko's. 945
bytes to be precise. Please note that twofish-i586 includes TWO
implementations: C and assembler. Just think about how much smaller it will
be when I rip out the C part. 

So much for that.

> How many bugs are in your code?  

42... Is this a serious question?

> Are there any buffer overflows or other security holes? 
> How can you be sure about it?  

How can you be sure? Mathematical program verification applies quite badly to
assembler.

> If your code fails on any one of these questions, forget about it.  If
> it survives them, post your results and have someone else verify them.

I'm sorry, your critique is too generel to be useful.

Regards, Clemens

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-05 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-04 10:42 nasm over gas? Fruhwirth Clemens
2003-09-04 12:32 ` Antonio Vargas
2003-09-04 13:44 ` Yann Droneaud
2003-09-04 14:05   ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-09-04 14:21     ` Sean Neakums
2003-09-04 14:33       ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-09-04 15:09         ` Yann Droneaud
2003-09-04 14:55     ` Yann Droneaud
2003-09-05 21:16       ` George Anzinger
2003-09-04 14:57   ` Michael Frank
2003-09-04 15:43     ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2003-09-04 22:28     ` insecure
2003-09-05 12:59       ` Michael Frank
2003-09-05 17:28         ` insecure
2003-09-05 17:45           ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-06 17:18             ` insecure
2003-09-07 18:49           ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-07 19:30             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-09 21:37               ` insecure
2003-09-09 21:34             ` insecure
2003-09-11 11:07               ` Ricardo Bugalho
2003-09-12 15:26                 ` insecure
2003-09-12 17:27                   ` Ricardo Bugalho
2003-09-12 22:17                     ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-13 19:25                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-13 19:51                         ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-11 14:03               ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-11 17:05                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-09 20:56           ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 13:27       ` Jesse Pollard
2003-09-05 23:51     ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-09-06  1:41       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-04 14:56 ` Yann Droneaud
2003-09-05 11:42 ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-05 12:04   ` Fruhwirth Clemens [this message]
2003-09-05 12:37     ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-05 12:21 John Bradford
2003-09-05 12:25 John Bradford
2003-09-05 12:25 ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2003-09-06 22:08   ` Herbert Poetzl
2003-09-07 20:40     ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2003-09-05 13:20 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-09-05 13:57 John Bradford
2003-09-05 15:39 ` Mehmet Ceyran
2003-09-06 20:24   ` David B. Stevens
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2003-09-08 12:03         ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-09-08 13:53           ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-09-08 16:10             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 16:17           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 16:45             ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-09-08 16:58               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 17:59           ` William Lee Irwin III
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2003-09-08 12:07       ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
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2003-09-08 20:08             ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau

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