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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>
Cc: mfedyk@matchmail.com, reiser@namesys.com,
	herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, akpm@osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Debian Kernels was: 2.6.0test9 Reiserfs boot time "buffer layer error at fs/buffer.c:431"
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:05:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031116170509.GB201@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031116151522.6ef9d2e1.skraw@ithnet.com>

Hi!

> > If distribution had all packages unmodified, it would be useless...
> 
> Just contrary I'd state that this would be the "perfect world", because this
> would mean all projects are in perfect shape and all patches have gone to the
> respective maintainers.

Okay, in the perfect world we'd have just one distribution with all
packages unmodified. Well.. but we are not there yet.

> > So I'd expect all distros to have at least some changes in their
> > kernel... the same way I expect distros to have some patches in
> > midnight commander etc.
> 
> So you say midnight commanders' maintainer is an a**hole, or what?
> If you think some project needs patches, then please talk to its

Debian having diffs vs. vanilla midnight does not mean anything
negative about its maintainer: Debian well may want different default
config, for example (F3 viewer bindings came to mind).

> > Of course it is good to keep the .diff as small as possible.
> 
> diffsize small is wanted.
> diffsize zero is unwanted.
> What kind of a logic is that?
> 
> Forgive me Pavel, that does not sound thoughtful to me.

If there's bug in the package, I expect Debian to fix the bug and then
forward bugfix to the maintainer.

Distribution does not want to wait for maintainer to ACK, especially
if its security-related bug.

								Pavel
-- 
When do you have a heart between your knees?
[Johanka's followup: and *two* hearts?]

  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-16 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-28 15:49 2.6.0test9 Reiserfs boot time "buffer layer error at fs/buffer.c:431" lkml-031028
2003-10-28 18:36 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-28 20:27 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-28 22:13 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-28 22:15   ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-29  6:56   ` lkml-031028
2003-10-29 17:44   ` lkml-031028
2003-10-29 20:31     ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-29 21:49       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-29 22:19         ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-30  6:22           ` lkml-031028
2003-10-30  6:51           ` lkml-031028
2003-11-02  7:17           ` Herbert Xu
2003-11-02  7:33             ` Andrew Morton
2003-11-02  9:18               ` Oleg Drokin
2003-11-02  9:27               ` Herbert Xu
2003-11-02  9:40                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-11-02  9:54                   ` Herbert Xu
2003-11-02 11:54                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-11-02 21:09                       ` Herbert Xu
2003-11-03 10:20                         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-11-04  8:10                           ` Hans Reiser
2003-11-04 21:03                             ` Debian Kernels was: " Mike Fedyk
2003-11-04  9:54                               ` Hans Reiser
2003-11-04 23:49                               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-11-05  0:05                                 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-11-16 13:05                                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-16  3:55                                   ` Hans Reiser
2003-11-16 14:15                                   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-11-16 17:05                                     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2003-11-16 17:27                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-11-16 17:40                                         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-11-16 18:38                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-11-16 22:54                                             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-11-16 17:30                                       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-11-02 11:50                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-11-02 20:33                   ` Herbert Xu

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