* ATI boards [was Re: Linux 2.4 future]
@ 2003-12-03 3:14 Xose Vazquez Perez
2003-12-03 3:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-03 3:43 ` Gene Heskett
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From: Xose Vazquez Perez @ 2003-12-03 3:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
Harald Arnesen wrote:
> I second that. I have an ATI Radeon 9200, and I can play Tuxracer,
> America's Army (BOO!), and any other 3D-game without any problem.
Torvalds was talking about R200 chip. Those boards are 8500, and
9100/8500 LE. IMO they are the best for FOSS.
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* Re: ATI boards [was Re: Linux 2.4 future]
2003-12-03 3:14 ATI boards [was Re: Linux 2.4 future] Xose Vazquez Perez
@ 2003-12-03 3:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-03 4:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-03 4:26 ` Xose Vazquez Perez
2003-12-03 3:43 ` Gene Heskett
1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Linus Torvalds @ 2003-12-03 3:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xose Vazquez Perez; +Cc: linux-kernel
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote:
> Harald Arnesen wrote:
>
> > I second that. I have an ATI Radeon 9200, and I can play Tuxracer,
> > America's Army (BOO!), and any other 3D-game without any problem.
>
> Torvalds was talking about R200 chip. Those boards are 8500, and
> 9100/8500 LE. IMO they are the best for FOSS.
Actually, the whole R2x0 family seems to be largely supported by the DRI
drivers.
The newer cards just need a recent enough DRI server to know about them,
but they should otherwise be ok.
It's the R300-based cards (ATI 9800 & friends) that apparently don't get
any open-source 3D acceleration right now.
(But hey, I may be wrong - I follow the DRI stuff only sporadically).
Linus
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* Re: ATI boards [was Re: Linux 2.4 future]
2003-12-03 3:42 ` Linus Torvalds
@ 2003-12-03 4:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-03 4:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-03 4:26 ` Xose Vazquez Perez
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: William Lee Irwin III @ 2003-12-03 4:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linus Torvalds; +Cc: Xose Vazquez Perez, linux-kernel
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote:
>> Torvalds was talking about R200 chip. Those boards are 8500, and
>> 9100/8500 LE. IMO they are the best for FOSS.
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 07:42:08PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Actually, the whole R2x0 family seems to be largely supported by the DRI
> drivers.
> The newer cards just need a recent enough DRI server to know about them,
> but they should otherwise be ok.
> It's the R300-based cards (ATI 9800 & friends) that apparently don't get
> any open-source 3D acceleration right now.
> (But hey, I may be wrong - I follow the DRI stuff only sporadically).
The graphics drivers do a lot of memory mapping, and so I need to fish
around down there for various things I'm hacking on. How much kernel
content to this would you say there is out-of-tree?
-- wli
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* Re: ATI boards [was Re: Linux 2.4 future]
2003-12-03 4:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
@ 2003-12-03 4:15 ` Linus Torvalds
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Linus Torvalds @ 2003-12-03 4:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Lee Irwin III; +Cc: Xose Vazquez Perez, linux-kernel
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
>
> > (But hey, I may be wrong - I follow the DRI stuff only sporadically).
>
> The graphics drivers do a lot of memory mapping, and so I need to fish
> around down there for various things I'm hacking on. How much kernel
> content to this would you say there is out-of-tree?
The kernel side of DRI should all be merged in the regular tree - I do
that fairly regularly.
Of course, the kernel side of DRI is the smallest part by far of all the
crud going on wrt graphics cards these days.
Linus
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* Re: ATI boards [was Re: Linux 2.4 future]
2003-12-03 3:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-03 4:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
@ 2003-12-03 4:26 ` Xose Vazquez Perez
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Xose Vazquez Perez @ 2003-12-03 4:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Actually, the whole R2x0 family seems to be largely supported by the DRI
> drivers.
Yes, but R200 family(8500 and 9100, aka 8500LE) are the _faster_ ATI out there
with FOSS 3D support.
ATI was playing with the boards numbers to try to sell more. But 9200 and 9000,
based on RV250, are more expensive and slower than any R200 based.
^
> It's the R300-based cards (ATI 9800 & friends) that apparently don't get
> any open-source 3D acceleration right now.
Last time that I heard about it, 9500/9600/9700/9800 only work on 2D.
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* Re: ATI boards [was Re: Linux 2.4 future]
2003-12-03 3:14 ATI boards [was Re: Linux 2.4 future] Xose Vazquez Perez
2003-12-03 3:42 ` Linus Torvalds
@ 2003-12-03 3:43 ` Gene Heskett
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gene Heskett @ 2003-12-03 3:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xose Vazquez Perez, linux-kernel
On Tuesday 02 December 2003 22:14, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote:
>Harald Arnesen wrote:
>> I second that. I have an ATI Radeon 9200, and I can play Tuxracer,
>> America's Army (BOO!), and any other 3D-game without any problem.
>
>Torvalds was talking about R200 chip. Those boards are 8500, and
>9100/8500 LE. IMO they are the best for FOSS.
>
That would make those cards a bit long in the tooth by now. OTOH, if
the 9200 works for Linus, I think thats probably good enough for me.
:)
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