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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Chris Vine <chris@cvine.freeserve.co.uk>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.0-test9 - poor swap performance on low end machines
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:44:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031210224445.GE11193@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031210220525.GA28912@k3.hellgate.ch>

On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:05:25PM +0100, Roger Luethi wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:52:35 +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:48:17PM -0800, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> > > qsbench I'd pretty much ignore except as a control case, since there's
> > > nothing to do with a single process but let it thrash.
> > 
> > this is not the point. If a single process like qsbench trashes twice as
> > fast in 2.4, it means 2.6 has some great problem in the core vm, the
> > whole point of swap is to trash but to give the task more physical
> > virtual memory. I doubt you can solve it with anything returned by
> > si_swapinfo.
> 
> Uhm.. guys? I forgot to mention that earlier: qsbench as I used it was not
> about one single process. There were four worker processes (-p 4), and my
> load control stuff did make it run faster, so the point is moot.

more processes can be optimized even better by adding unfariness.
Either ways a significant slowdown of qsbench probably means worse core
VM, at least if compared with 2.4 that isn't adding huge unfariness just
to optimize qsbench.

> Also, the 2.6 core VM doesn't seem all that bad since it was introduced in
> 2.5.27 but most of the problems I measured were introduced after 2.5.40.
> Check out the graph I posted.

you're confusing rmap with core vm. rmap in no way can be defined as the
core vm, rmap is just a method used by the core vm to find some
information more efficiently at the expenses of all the fast paths
that now have to do the rmap bookkeeping.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-10 22:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-29 22:30 2.6.0-test9 - poor swap performance on low end machines Chris Vine
2003-10-31  3:57 ` Rik van Riel
2003-10-31 11:26   ` Roger Luethi
2003-10-31 12:37     ` Con Kolivas
2003-10-31 12:59       ` Roger Luethi
2003-10-31 12:55     ` Ed Tomlinson
2003-11-01 18:34       ` Pasi Savolainen
2003-11-06 18:40       ` bill davidsen
2003-10-31 21:52   ` Chris Vine
2003-11-02 23:06   ` Chris Vine
2003-11-03  0:48     ` Con Kolivas
2003-11-03 21:13       ` Chris Vine
2003-11-04  2:55         ` Con Kolivas
2003-11-04 22:08           ` Chris Vine
2003-11-04 22:30             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-08 13:52           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-08 14:23             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-08 14:30               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-09 21:03               ` Chris Vine
2003-12-13 14:08               ` Chris Vine
2003-12-08 19:49             ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-08 20:48               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-09  0:27                 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-09  4:05                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-09 15:11                     ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-09 16:04                       ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-09 16:31                         ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-09 18:31                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-09 19:38                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-10 13:58                         ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-10 17:47                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-10 22:23                             ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-11  0:12                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-10 21:04                           ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-10 23:17                             ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-11  1:31                               ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-11 10:16                                 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-10 23:30                           ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-10 21:52                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-10 22:05                   ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-10 22:44                     ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2003-12-11  1:28                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11  1:32                         ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-11 10:16                       ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-15 23:31                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-15 23:37                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-15 23:54                           ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-16  0:17                             ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-16 11:23                             ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-16 16:29                               ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-17 11:03                                 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-17 11:06                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-17 16:50                                     ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-17 11:33                                   ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-17 18:53                               ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-17 19:27                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-17 19:51                                   ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-17 19:49                                 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-17 21:41                                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-17 21:41                                   ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-18  0:21                                     ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-18 22:53                                       ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-18 23:38                                         ` William Lee Irwin III

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