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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Jean-Marc Valin <Jean-Marc.Valin@USherbrooke.ca>
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Increasing HZ (patch for HZ > 1000)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:40:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031212234028.GA541@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1071269849.4182.14.camel@idefix.homelinux.org>

Hi!

> > Every notebook from thinkpad 560X up has produced some kind of
> > cpu-load-related-noise. You'd have to throw out quite a lot of
> > notebooks...
> 
> You're right, I'm probably not the only one. It may be worth at least
> having an option to change HZ to less annoying values. Otherwise there
> are going to be lots of complaints when people try out 2.6 on their
> laptops and hear that noise. On mine, I seriously could not stand the
> noise more than 5 minutes. Not because it was that loud but 1 kHz is
> really annoying.

Okay, we are probably taking other sounds. I can hear cpu-load-related
noise on every notebook from thinkpad 560X -- in a quiet room, and on
some machines its rather hard to notice. You probably have way more
annoying problem.

> > PS: Jean, can you try how high you can get it? You might want to go to
> > 24kHz so that no human can hear it, or to 100kHz to be kind to
> > cats. At ~1MHz you'd be even kind to bats :-), but it is probably
> > impossible to get over 200kHz or so. Still it might be funny
> > experiment.
> 
> For now, my patch only allows up to around 10 kHz. At that frequency, I
> don't hear anything because the noise is not loud enough (ear is much
> more sensitive at 1 kHz). Also, I have around 10% overhead on my
> Pentium-M 1.6 GHz, so I guess it's not for everyone. Extrapolating from
> there, I'd also say that at 100 kHz, it wouldn't do anything but handle
> the interrupts, which is slightly annoying when you want to actually get
> some work done :)

I wonder what happens at 200kHz then; system might detect some lost
ticks and keep running at very slow speed...
								Pavel
-- 
When do you have a heart between your knees?
[Johanka's followup: and *two* hearts?]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-12 23:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-11  6:05 Increasing HZ (patch for HZ > 1000) Jean-Marc Valin
2003-12-11  7:07 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-11  7:15   ` Jean-Marc Valin
2003-12-11  7:18     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-11 17:18       ` Gene Heskett
2003-12-11 17:33         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-11 18:10           ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-11 19:14             ` Gene Heskett
2003-12-11 18:35           ` Gene Heskett
2003-12-12 22:08       ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-12 22:57         ` Jean-Marc Valin
2003-12-12 23:18           ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-12 23:40           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2003-12-13  2:25             ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-16  3:04             ` john stultz
2003-12-16  5:20               ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2003-12-14  1:05           ` bill davidsen
2003-12-14  4:48             ` Pat Erley
2003-12-11  7:30     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11  8:25     ` Tim Schmielau
2003-12-12  8:00   ` Jean-Marc Valin
2003-12-12 22:10     ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-12 22:50       ` Jean-Marc Valin
2004-01-03 18:16         ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found]         ` <010f01c415a4_27033d00_d100000a@sbs2003.local>
2004-04-06 13:00           ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-11 19:22 Grover, Andrew
2003-12-12 22:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-12 22:58   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-12-12 23:45     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-13  8:36       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-12-12 15:52 Vincent Legoll

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