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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] kthread_create
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 10:51:07 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040102070615.EDE172C22C@lists.samba.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 31 Dec 2003 01:34:39 CDT." <3FF26DFF.3040909@pobox.com>

In message <3FF26DFF.3040909@pobox.com> you write:
> Rusty Russell wrote:
> > For #2, if you really can't wait for keventd, perhaps your own
> > workqueue is in order?
> 
> Way too wasteful, 

I feel the same, which is one reason I didn't use them here...

> and doing so is working around a fundamental failing 
> of workqueues:  keventd gives no guarantee that your scheduled work will 
> be executed this week, this month, or this year :)

Hmm, I think that if you had an all-dancing, self-balancing workqueue
mechanism, you wouldn't need to create your own workqueues anyway.

> So it would be nice to have thread pool semantics occasionally found in 
> userspace:  if thread pool is full when new work is queued, 
> _temporarily_ increase the pool size (or create a one-shot kthread). 
> Sure you have kthread creation overhead, but at least you have a 
> reasonable guarantee that your work won't wait 5-30 seconds or more 
> before being performed.

If we're wishlisting, I'd prefer something which also scaled down
below one thread per cpu until required.  Mainly because it just feels
wrong to have those threads sitting around doing mainly nothing.

Simple matter of coding, right?
Rusty.
--
  Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-01-02  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-31  3:31 [PATCH 1/2] kthread_create Rusty Russell
2003-12-31  4:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-31  5:28   ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-31  6:34     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-31  8:47       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-01-01 23:51       ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2003-12-31  4:49 ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-31  5:18   ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-31  5:06 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-31  5:34   ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-31  5:56     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-31  6:27       ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-01  3:45         ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-02  7:09           ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-02 16:58             ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-03  3:05               ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-03  3:43                 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-03 11:47                   ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-04  4:23                     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-03-29 15:42                     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-03 19:00                   ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-03 23:53                     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-04  2:34                     ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-04  4:42                       ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-04  4:55                         ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-04  9:35                         ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-04 23:03                           ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-05  4:09                             ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-05  5:06                               ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-05  6:38                                 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-05  6:52                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-07  7:00                                     ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-07  7:25                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-08  0:33                                         ` Rusty Russell
2004-03-29 15:42                         ` Davide Libenzi
2004-03-29 15:42                       ` Davide Libenzi
2004-03-29 15:41                     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-03-29 15:42                     ` Rusty Russell
2004-03-29 15:40                   ` Davide Libenzi
2004-03-29 15:41                   ` Rusty Russell
2004-03-29 15:39                 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-03-29 15:39               ` Rusty Russell
2004-03-29 15:38             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-31  6:31       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2003-12-31  7:12         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-31 23:25           ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-31 18:02 Albert Cahalan

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