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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: Totally broken PCI PM calls
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:58:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200410111758.48441.dtor_core@ameritech.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1097533687.13642.30.camel@gaston>

On Monday 11 October 2004 05:28 pm, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > A "hang" sounds like the pmcore bug I reported about a year ago...
> > 
> > It's rather foolish of the PM core to use the same semaphore to
> > protect system-wide suspend/resume operations that it uses to
> > for mutual exclusion on the device add/remove (which suspend
> > and resume callbacks did happily in 2.4) ... since it's routine to
> > unplug peripherals on suspended systems!
> 
> Definitely. One thing is: how to do it instead ? I've been thinking
> about it for a while and am still wondering... do we want a list
> mecanism with add/remove notifiers so the PM walk can keep in sync
> with devices added/removed ? or should addition/removal be simply
> postponed until the end of the sleep/wakeup process (I tend to vote
> for that).
> 

Yes, I think that devices that failed to resume (and all their children)
have to be moved by the core resume function into a separate list and
then destroyed (again by the driver core). For that we might need to add
bus_type->remove_device() handler as it seems that all buses do alot
of work outside of driver->remove handlers. The remove_device should
accept additional argument - something like dead_device that would
suggest that driver should not be alarmed by any errors during unbind/
removal process as the device (or rather usually its parent) is simply
not there anynore.

Just my $.02

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-11 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-11  0:45 Totally broken PCI PM calls Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-11  2:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-11  3:42   ` Paul Mackerras
2004-10-11  4:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-11  4:24       ` Paul Mackerras
2004-10-11  9:57         ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-11 14:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-11 14:56           ` suspend-to-RAM [was Re: Totally broken PCI PM calls] Pavel Machek
2004-10-11 15:30             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-11 17:39               ` Olivier Galibert
2004-10-11 18:21                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-11 15:53             ` Brice Goglin
2004-10-11 16:17               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-11 17:09                 ` Brice Goglin
2004-10-11 18:23                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-11 18:40                     ` Brice Goglin
2004-10-11 16:47         ` Totally broken PCI PM calls David Brownell
2004-10-11 22:28           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-11 22:58             ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2004-10-11 23:08               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-12  3:00                 ` David Brownell
2004-10-12  4:09                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-10-12 16:56                     ` David Brownell
2004-10-12  9:27             ` Russell King
2004-10-12 11:24               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-11  4:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-11 10:18       ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-11 10:54         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-11 16:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-15 13:59           ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-15 15:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-24 20:58               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-24 21:18                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-11 16:36     ` David Brownell
2004-10-11 21:17       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-11 21:37         ` David Brownell
2004-10-11 22:12           ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-10-12  2:59             ` David Brownell
2004-10-12  8:54               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-12 10:32                 ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-10-12 18:28                 ` David Brownell
2004-10-12 20:28                   ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-10-13 13:34                     ` David Brownell
2004-10-12  1:24           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-12  8:53           ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-12 18:52             ` David Brownell
2004-10-12 19:50               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-12 22:13               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-12 22:35                 ` David Brownell
2004-10-11 22:26       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-11  3:45   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-11  4:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-11  4:23       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-11  4:32         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-11  4:55           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-11 16:15             ` David Brownell
2004-10-11 22:22               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-12  2:46                 ` David Brownell
2004-10-12  4:02                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-12 10:49                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-12 11:27                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-12 11:38                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-12 11:51               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-11 10:08     ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-11  9:51 ` Pavel Machek

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