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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: bhuey@lnxw.com, paulmck@us.ibm.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	shemminger@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
	rusty@au1.ibm.com, tgall@us.ibm.com, jim.houston@comcast.net,
	manfred@colorfullife.com, gh@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Real-Time Preemption and RCU
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:31:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050319163128.GB28958@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DCPut-0005XI-00@gondolin.me.apana.org.au>


* Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> wrote:

> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> >
> > i really have no intention to allow multiple readers for rt-mutexes. We
> > got away with that so far, and i'd like to keep it so. Imagine 100
> > threads all blocked in the same critical section (holding the read-lock)
> > when a highprio writer thread comes around: instant 100x latency to let
> > all of them roll forward. The only sane solution is to not allow
> > excessive concurrency. (That limits SMP scalability, but there's no
> > other choice i can see.)
> 
> What about allowing only as many concurrent readers as there are CPUs?

since a reader may be preempted by a higher prio task, there is no
linear relationship between CPU utilization and the number of readers
allowed. You could easily end up having all the nr_cpus readers
preempted on one CPU. It gets pretty messy.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-19 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-18  0:20 Real-Time Preemption and RCU Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-18  7:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18 16:43   ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-18 17:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18 17:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-18 20:35       ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-18 22:22         ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-19  0:48           ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-18  8:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18  9:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18  9:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18  9:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18  9:28   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18  9:53     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18 15:33       ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-19  5:03     ` Manfred Spraul
2005-03-19 16:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-20  6:36         ` Manfred Spraul
2005-03-20  9:25           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-03-20 16:57             ` Manfred Spraul
2005-03-20 21:38               ` Bill Huey
2005-03-20 21:59                 ` Bill Huey
2005-03-18 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18 11:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18 16:48     ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-18 17:19       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-20 13:29         ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-20 22:38           ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-20 23:23             ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-22  5:53               ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-22  8:55                 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-22  9:20                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-22 10:19                     ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-23  5:40                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-23 11:44                     ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-24  7:02                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-22 10:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-22 11:39             ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-22 13:10               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-22 15:08                 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-18 15:48   ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-18 11:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18 12:56 ` Bill Huey
2005-03-18 13:17   ` Bill Huey
2005-03-18 15:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-18 16:02     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18 16:55       ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-22 10:04         ` Bill Huey
2005-03-22 10:17           ` Bill Huey
2005-03-22 10:34             ` Bill Huey
2005-03-22 10:38           ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-18 22:26       ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-19 16:31         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-03-20  8:01           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-22  8:08             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-18 15:54   ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-18 15:58     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-11 22:57 real-time preemption " James Huang

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