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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	ericvh@gmail.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, smfrench@austin.rr.com,
	hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RCF] [PATCH] unprivileged mount/umount
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:23:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050511212343.GC5093@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505112121190.11888@be1.lrz>

Bodo Eggert wrote:
> > > > How about a new clone option "CLONE_NOSUID"?
> > > 
> > > IMO, the clone call ist the wrong place to create namespaces. It
> > > should be deprecated by a mkdir/chdir-like interface.
> > 
> > And the mkdir/chdir interface already exists, see "cd /proc/NNN/root".
> 
> If you want persistent namespaces, this will be a PITA (I don't want a 
> keep-the-namespace-open-daemon), and if you don't, it will be racy 
> (user a logs in, while his second/nth login expires).
> 
> Keeping a list of named namespaces in kernel can be made cheap and secure.

Still easy.

To keep persistent named namespaces in /var/namespaces, thus:

     # Just once please!
     mount -t tmpfs none /var/namespaces

     # Make a named namespace.
     NSNAME='fred'
     mkdir /var/namespaces/$NSNAME
     run_in_new_namespace mount -t bind / /var/namespaces/$NSNAME

     # Make a named namespace for the _original_ namespace.
     mkdir /var/namespaces/initial
     mount -t bind / /var/namespaces/initial

     # Access the namespace.
     ls /var/namespaces/fred

     # Enter the namespace.
     chroot /var/namespaces/fred

     # Delete a named namespace.
     NSNAME='fred'
     umount /var/namespaces/$NSNAME
     rmdir /var/namespaces/$NSNAME

Some of the above will fail due to security checks in fs/namespace.c,
where it tests against current->namespace.  Without those checks,
which seem to have no purpose _other_ than preventing the above usage,
I think the above would all work.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-11 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2005-05-11 16:41         ` [RCF] [PATCH] unprivileged mount/umount Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-11 17:07           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 18:49             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 19:05               ` serue
2005-05-11 19:46                 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-05-11 20:40                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:11                 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12  3:05                   ` serue
2005-05-11 19:35               ` Ram
2005-05-11 20:31                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:28                 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 22:42                   ` Ram
2005-05-11 22:58                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-12  1:02                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12  2:18                         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-12  6:45                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12 13:23                             ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-12 13:47                               ` serue
2005-05-12 15:16                               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12 12:51                                 ` serue
2005-05-12 18:51                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-12 19:56                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-13  8:55                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13  1:10                                   ` Ram
2005-05-13  6:06                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13  7:25                                     ` Ram
2005-05-13  8:59                                       ` Ram
2005-05-13  9:10                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 16:53                                           ` Ram
2005-05-13 17:14                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 18:44                                             ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 20:56                                     ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-12  0:59                     ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-13  6:41                       ` Ram
2005-05-11 21:09               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 21:20                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:32                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 19:32             ` Bodo Eggert
2005-05-11 21:23               ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2005-05-11 21:34                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:36                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12  3:08                     ` serue
2005-05-03 14:31 Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-03 17:30 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-04 13:08 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-04 14:21   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-04 14:51     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-04 15:21       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11  8:51     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-11 10:31       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-12 21:08         ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-13  5:47           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13  7:19             ` Jan Hudec
2005-05-13  8:33               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 23:09                 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-14  6:58                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16 18:35                     ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-14 11:49                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-04 13:47 ` Martin Waitz
2005-05-04 14:34   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11  8:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-11  8:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-11 10:20   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16  9:34     ` Christoph Hellwig

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