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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Bryan Henderson <hbryan@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	bulb@ucw.cz, ericvh@gmail.com, hch@infradead.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	smfrench@austin.rr.com
Subject: Re: [RCF] [PATCH] unprivileged mount/umount
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:49:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050514114915.GA19703@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF61E069CA.D46E38EE-ON88257000.00738E9B-88257000.007F4E51@us.ibm.com>

Bryan Henderson wrote:
> 2) after the private mount, don't let a program that has gained privileges 
> via set-uid see the user-made names.
> 
> My point is still that (2) can't be done because you can't know that a 
> program has gained privileged via set-uid.
> 
> If it's really not about set-uid, but about ptrace-like privilege 
> borrowing, please enlighten me.

Note that not all setuid programs gain *capabilities*.

You appear to be talking about setuid-root, but there is also
setuid-some-other-user, where the capabilities don't change but the
priveleges switch to those of another uid.

The right thing to do in that case is tricky.  For example, suppose
you have a program that's setuid to the "printer" user, which can copy
the caller's file to the printer queue directories in
/var/spool/printer.  Ideally, that program should be able to read the
calling user's file, looking up the path in the calling user's
namespace (that's important, because the path is provided by the
calling user), and then write to /var/spool/printer.  (*Really*
ideally /var/spool/printer wouldn't be visible in the calling user's
namespace, but that sort of design is straying far indeed from a unix
model).

-- Jamie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-05-14 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-03 14:31 [RCF] [PATCH] unprivileged mount/umount Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-03 17:30 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-04 13:08 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-04 14:21   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-04 14:51     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-04 15:21       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11  8:51     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-11 10:31       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-12 21:08         ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-13  5:47           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13  7:19             ` Jan Hudec
2005-05-13  8:33               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 23:09                 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-14  6:58                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16 18:35                     ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-14 11:49                   ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2005-05-04 13:47 ` Martin Waitz
2005-05-04 14:34   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11  8:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-11  8:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-11 10:20   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16  9:34     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] <406SQ-5P9-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <40rNB-6p8-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <40t37-7ol-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <42VeB-8hG-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <42WNo-1eJ-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-11 16:41         ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-11 17:07           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 18:49             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 19:05               ` serue
2005-05-11 19:46                 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-05-11 20:40                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:11                 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12  3:05                   ` serue
2005-05-11 19:35               ` Ram
2005-05-11 20:31                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:28                 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 22:42                   ` Ram
2005-05-11 22:58                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-12  1:02                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12  2:18                         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-12  6:45                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12 13:23                             ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-12 13:47                               ` serue
2005-05-12 15:16                               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12 12:51                                 ` serue
2005-05-12 18:51                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-12 19:56                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-13  8:55                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13  1:10                                   ` Ram
2005-05-13  6:06                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13  7:25                                     ` Ram
2005-05-13  8:59                                       ` Ram
2005-05-13  9:10                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 16:53                                           ` Ram
2005-05-13 17:14                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 18:44                                             ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 20:56                                     ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-12  0:59                     ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-13  6:41                       ` Ram
2005-05-11 21:09               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 21:20                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:32                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 19:32             ` Bodo Eggert
2005-05-11 21:23               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 21:34                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:36                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12  3:08                     ` serue

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