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* [2.6] Problem with PDC20265 on system with I865 chipset and PIV HT
@ 2006-01-12 22:39 Miroslaw Mieszczak
  2006-01-13  8:16 ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Miroslaw Mieszczak @ 2006-01-12 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

I have a problem with PDC20265 controller.
On 2.6 kernel I can use it only if set kernel parameters ide2=serialize 
ide3=serialize.
In other case simultaneous R/W operation from both channels lead into 
data corruption and system crash.

Today I tried 2.6.15 kernel, and few times saved Oops data:


Oops: 0002 [#1]
SMP
Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
CPU:    1
EIP:    0060:[<c0110471>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010003   (2.6.15)
EIP is at smp_invalidate_interrupt+0x2d/0x6f
eax: 00579000   ebx: f7c22000   ecx: f7302300   edx: 00000001
esi: c0575380   edi: c0575300   ebp: f7c22000   esp: f7c23f70
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process swapper (pid: 0, threadinfo=f7c22000 task=f7c1c530)
Stack: c010386c f7c22000 c170e2e0 f7c22000 c0575380 c0575300 f7c22000 
00000000
       0000007b 0000007b fffffffd c0100d7c 00000060 00000246 c0100e19 
01020809
       00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 
00000000
Call Trace:
 [<c010386c>] invalidate_interrupt+0x1c/0x24
 [<c0100d7c>] default_idle+0x2e/0x52
 [<c0100e19>] cpu_idle+0x65/0x73
Code: e0 ff ff 21 e0 8b 50 10 0f a3 15 38 d6 57 c0 19 c0 85 c0 74 28 b8 
00 59 57 c0 03 04 95 04 b0 57 c0 8b 08 3b 0d 3c d6 57 c0 74 13 <c7> 05 
b0 d0 ff ff 00 00 00 00 f0 0f b3 15 38 d6 57 c0 c3 83 78


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oops: 0002 [#1]
SMP
Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
CPU:    0
EIP:    0060:[<c01121fb>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010006   (2.6.15)
EIP is at smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x34/0x100
eax: c17062e0   ebx: c057598c   ecx: 00000000   edx: c053e000
esi: c0575380   edi: c053ff98   ebp: c053e000   esp: c053ff7c
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process swapper (pid: 0, threadinfo=c053e000 task=c04c9b20)
Stack: ffffffff f6ba5a30 c053e000 c0575380 c0575300 c053e000 c01038b4 
c053e000
       c17062e0 c053e000 c0575380 c0575300 c053e000 00000000 0000007b 
0000007b
       ffffffef c0100d7c 00000060 00000246 c0100e19 00020809 0009c300 
c0532800



----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Oops: 0000 [#1]
SMP
Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
CPU:    1
EIP:    0060:[<c011039d>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010046   (2.6.15)
EIP is at send_IPI_mask_bitmask+0x2a/0x86
eax: fffffffc   ebx: 00000001   ecx: f7315900   edx: 00000001
esi: 000000fd   edi: 00000292   ebp: 0000000b   esp: f62c1df4
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process cat (pid: 12551, threadinfo=f62c0000 task=f75ff530)
Stack: bfda5fff c170e900 00000000 bfda6000 f7315900 f6a8fd2c f7315900 
c0110536
       00000001 000000fd bfd91000 bfda6000 c170e900 c0110622 00000001 
f7315900
       ffffffff 00000001 c015339a f7315900 f6a8fd2c 00000000 00000000 
f62c1e5c
Call Trace:
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ffffd1e0
 printing eip:
c0113603
*pde = 00003067
*pte = 50387744
 [<c0110536>] flush_tlb_others+0x83/0xdb
 [<c0110622>] flush_tlb_mm+0x48/0x8e
 [<c015339a>] exit_mmap+0xf4/0x11e
 [<c011a7b1>] mmput+0x38/0x98
 [<c011f597>] do_exit+0xf9/0x3dc
 [<c011f8e5>] do_group_exit+0x3c/0xa2
 [<c0128e45>] get_signal_to_deliver+0x22c/0x340
 [<c0102c4e>] do_signal+0x6a/0x13d
 [<c01038b4>] apic_timer_interrupt+0x1c/0x24
 [<c0121d93>] __do_softirq+0x6b/0xd8
 [<c0186f3e>] inotify_dentry_parent_queue_event+0x4c/0xc7
 [<c0114e32>] do_page_fault+0x0/0x5a6
 [<c01150de>] do_page_fault+0x2ac/0x5a6

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Oops: 0003 [#1]
SMP
Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
CPU:    0
EIP:    0060:[<c0110957>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010046   (2.6.15)
EIP is at smp_reschedule_interrupt+0x0/0xb
eax: c053ff98   ebx: c053e000   ecx: c17062e0   edx: 0000007b
esi: c0575380   edi: c0575300   ebp: c053e000   esp: c053ff94
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process swapper (pid: 0, threadinfo=c053e000 task=c04c9b20)
Stack: c0103848 c053e000 c17062e0 c053e000 c0575380 c0575300 c053e000 
00000000
       0000007b 0000007b fffffffc c0100d7c 00000060 00000246 c0100e19 
00020809
       0009c300 c0532800 005cb007 c054091c 00038000 c057c220 c04c6abc 
0000006d


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oops: 0002 [#1]
SMP
Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
CPU:    1
EIP:    0060:[<c0110957>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010046   (2.6.15)
EIP is at smp_reschedule_interrupt+0x0/0xb
eax: f7c23f74   ebx: f7c22000   ecx: c170e2e0   edx: 0000007b
esi: c0575380   edi: c0575300   ebp: f7c22000   esp: f7c23f70
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process swapper (pid: 0, threadinfo=f7c22000 task=f7c1c530)
Stack: c0103848 f7c22000 c170e2e0 f7c22000 c0575380 c0575300 f7c22000 
00000000
       0000007b 0000007b fffffffc c0100d7c 00000060 00000246 c0100e19 
01020809
       00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 
00000000
Call Trace:
 [<c0103848>] reschedule_interrupt+0x1c/0x24
 [<c0100d7c>] default_idle+0x2e/0x52
 [<c0100e19>] cpu_idle+0x65/0x73
Code: 00 00 00 00 c7 44 24 08 01 00 00 00 c7 44 24 04 00 00 00 00 c7 04 
24 f8 08 11 c0 e8 74 fe ff ff fa e8 a7 12 00 00 fb 83 c4 10 c3 <c7> 05 
b0 d0 ff ff 00 00 00 00 c3 53 83 ec 04 a1 44 d6 57 c0 8b
 <1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ffffd300
 printing eip:
c011039d
*pde = 00003067
*pte = 0d89645e
Oops: 0000 [#2]
SMP
Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
CPU:    1
EIP:    0060:[<c011039d>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010046   (2.6.15)
EIP is at send_IPI_mask_bitmask+0x2a/0x86
eax: fffffffc   ebx: 00000001   ecx: 00000000   edx: 00000000
esi: 000000fc   edi: 00000096   ebp: f7c23da4   esp: f7c23d18
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process swapper (pid: 0, threadinfo=f7c22000 task=f7c1c530)
Stack: 84113b45 84113b45 00000013 f7c23d44 00000000 f76d2530 c1707520 
c01107a9
       00000001 000000fc 00000000 f7c23da4 c0116bc9 00000000 c1707520 
00000000
       01190f60 000000b7


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oops: 0002 [#1]
SMP <1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ffffc000
 printing eip:
c0112b48
*pde = 00003067
*pte = 00000000

Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
CPU:    1
EIP:    0060:[<c01121fb>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010006   (2.6.15)
EIP is at smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x34/0x100
eax: c170e2e0   ebx: c057598c   ecx: 00000001   edx: f7c22000
esi: c0575380   edi: f7c23f74   ebp: f7c22000   esp: f7c23f58
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process swapper (pid: 0, threadinfo=f7c22000 task=f7c1c530)
Stack: f7c23f74 f7c22000 f7c22000 c0575380 c0575300 f7c22000 c01038b4 
f7c22000
       c170e2e0 f7c22000 c0575380 c0575300 f7c22000 00000000 0000007b 
0000007b
       ffffffef c0100d7c


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Oops: 0002 [#1]
SMP
Modules linked in: netconsole<1>Unable to handle kernel paging request 
at virtual address ffffd300
 printing eip:
c011039d
*pde = 00003067
*pte = 67d19e54
 yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
CPU:    0
EIP:    0060:[<c01121fb>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010002   (2.6.15)
EIP is at smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x34/0x100
eax: c17062e0   ebx: c057598c   ecx: 00000000   edx: c053e000
esi: c0575380   edi: c053ff98   ebp: c053e000   esp: c053ff7c
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process swapper (pid: 0, threadinfo=c053e000 task=c04c9b20)
Stack: c053ff98 c053e000 c053e000 c0575380 c0575300 c053e000 c01038b4 
c053e000
       c17062e0 c053e000 c0575380 c0575300 c053e000 00000000 0000007b 
0000007b
       ffffffef c0100d7c 00000060


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Oops: 0002 [#1]
SMP <1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ffffd1e0
 printing eip:
c0113603
*pde = 00003067
*pte = 4e4e0000

Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
CPU:    1
EIP:    0060:[<c0113509>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010097   (2.6.15)
EIP is at ack_edge_ioapic_irq+0x3c/0xe7
eax: 00000000   ebx: 00000000   ecx: f7c22000   edx: 00000000
esi: 00000000   edi: 00000000   ebp: f7c22000   esp: f7c23f20
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process swapper (pid: 0, threadinfo=f7c22000 task=f7c1c530)
Stack: c170f520 00000001 f7c1c530 f7c22000 00000000 c0534f80 00000000 
f7c22000
       c013e0ac 00000000 00000001 c0121d93 c0534d08 c0534f9c f7c23f74 
f7c22000
       c0575380 c0575300 f7c22000 


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Oops: 0002 [#1]
SMP <1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ffffd1e0
 printing eip:
c0113603
*pde = 00003067
*pte = 32202020

Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
CPU:    1
EIP:    0060:[<c0113509>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010097   (2.6.15)
EIP is at ack_edge_ioapic_irq+0x3c/0xe7
eax: 00000000   ebx: 00000000   ecx: f5da0000   edx: 00000000
esi: 00000000   edi: 00000000   ebp: bfde9e00   esp: f5da1d88
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process bash (pid: 13070, threadinfo=f5da0000 task=f6857030)
Stack: 00000000 c04cf2a8 00000044 00000000 00000000 c0534f80 00000000 
bfde9e00
       c013e0ac 00000000 00000202 f733b7a8 c014fe4b c0534f9c f5da1ddc 
bfde9dfc
       f6857494 c0114e32 bfde9e00


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oops: 0002 [#1]
SMP
Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
CPU:    1
EIP:    0060:[<c01121fb>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010006   (2.6.15)
EIP is at smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x34/0x100
eax: c170e2e0   ebx: c057598c   ecx: 00000001   edx: f595c000
esi: 00000008   edi: f595df2c   ebp: ffffe400   esp: f595df10
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process bash (pid: 12992, threadinfo=f595c000 task=f6c39a30)
<1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ffffd1e0
 printing eip:
c0113603
*pde = 00003067
*pte = 20203732

Stack: 00000000 bfd32f70 0000000b 00000008 c0114e32 ffffe400 c01038b4 
0000000b
       0000007b 00000000 00000008 c0114e32 ffffe400 f595dfbc 0001007b 
f73b007b
       ffffffef c0114ea0 00000060 00000206 c057b5ec 0000000d f595df88 
f6c39a30
Call Trace:
 [<c0114e32>] do_page_fault+0x0/0x5a6
 [<c01038b4>] apic_timer_interrupt+0x1c/0x24
 [<c0114e32>] do_page_fault+0x0/0x5a6


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oops: 0003 [#1]
SMP
Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic 
pcmcia_core<1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 
ffffd0b0
 printing eip:
c0113509
*pde = 00003067
*pte = 2a07cc19

CPU:    0
EIP:    0060:[<c01121fb>]    Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010002   (2.6.15)
EIP is at smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x34/0x100
eax: c17062e0   ebx: c057598c   ecx: 00000000   edx: c053e000
esi: c0575380   edi: c053ff98   ebp: c053e000   esp: c053ff7c
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process swapper (pid: 0, threadinfo=c053e000 task=c04c9b20)
Stack: ffffffff f79d3030 c053e000 c0575380 c0575300 c053e000 c01038b4 
c053e000
       c17062e0 c053e000 c0575380 c0575300 c053e000 00000000 0000007b 
0000007b
       ffffffef c0100d7c 00000060






I don't know what I can do else to find the reason of the problem.
It is more detailed description in bugzilla: bug 4309

Best regards
Mirek

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* Re: [2.6] Problem with PDC20265 on system with I865 chipset and PIV HT
  2006-01-12 22:39 [2.6] Problem with PDC20265 on system with I865 chipset and PIV HT Miroslaw Mieszczak
@ 2006-01-13  8:16 ` Andrew Morton
  2006-01-13 17:14   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
  2006-01-14  6:48   ` Ingo Molnar
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2006-01-13  8:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Miroslaw Mieszczak
  Cc: linux-kernel, Ingo Molnar, Zwane Mwaikambo, Seth, Rohit

Miroslaw Mieszczak <mirek@mieszczak.com.pl> wrote:
>
> I have a problem with PDC20265 controller.
>  On 2.6 kernel I can use it only if set kernel parameters ide2=serialize 
>  ide3=serialize.
>  In other case simultaneous R/W operation from both channels lead into 
>  data corruption and system crash.
> 

hm, I see poor old Bart is plugging away with bug 4309.  Good luck with
that ;)

>  Today I tried 2.6.15 kernel, and few times saved Oops data:
> 
> 
>  Oops: 0002 [#1]
>  SMP
>  Modules linked in: netconsole yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
>  CPU:    1
>  EIP:    0060:[<c0110471>]    Not tainted VLI
>  EFLAGS: 00010003   (2.6.15)
>  EIP is at smp_invalidate_interrupt+0x2d/0x6f
>  eax: 00579000   ebx: f7c22000   ecx: f7302300   edx: 00000001
>  esi: c0575380   edi: c0575300   ebp: f7c22000   esp: f7c23f70
>  ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
>  Process swapper (pid: 0, threadinfo=f7c22000 task=f7c1c530)
>  Stack: c010386c f7c22000 c170e2e0 f7c22000 c0575380 c0575300 f7c22000 
>  00000000
>         0000007b 0000007b fffffffd c0100d7c 00000060 00000246 c0100e19 
>  01020809
>         00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 
>  00000000
>  Call Trace:
>   [<c010386c>] invalidate_interrupt+0x1c/0x24
>   [<c0100d7c>] default_idle+0x2e/0x52
>   [<c0100e19>] cpu_idle+0x65/0x73
>  Code: e0 ff ff 21 e0 8b 50 10 0f a3 15 38 d6 57 c0 19 c0 85 c0 74 28 b8 
>  00 59 57 c0 03 04 95 04 b0 57 c0 8b 08 3b 0d 3c d6 57 c0 74 13 <c7> 05 
>  b0 d0 ff ff 00 00 00 00 f0 0f b3 15 38 d6 57 c0 c3 83 78

That's unrelated.  smp_invalidate_interrupt() died here:


Code;  c0110459 No symbols available
  13:   74 28                     je     3d <_EIP+0x3d>
Code;  c011045b No symbols available
  15:   b8 00 59 57 c0            mov    $0xc0575900,%eax
Code;  c0110460 No symbols available
  1a:   03 04 95 04 b0 57 c0      add    0xc057b004(,%edx,4),%eax
Code;  c0110467 No symbols available
  21:   8b 08                     mov    (%eax),%ecx
Code;  c0110469 No symbols available
  23:   3b 0d 3c d6 57 c0         cmp    0xc057d63c,%ecx
Code;  c011046f No symbols available
  29:   74 13                     je     3e <_EIP+0x3e>

This decode from eip onwards should be reliable

Code;  c0110471 No symbols available
00000000 <_EIP>:
Code;  c0110471 No symbols available   <=====
   0:   c7 05 b0 d0 ff ff 00      movl   $0x0,0xffffd0b0   <=====
Code;  c0110478 No symbols available
   7:   00 00 00 
Code;  c011047b No symbols available
   a:   f0 0f b3 15 38 d6 57      lock btr %edx,0xc057d638
Code;  c0110482 No symbols available
  11:   c0 
Code;  c0110483 No symbols available
  12:   c3                        ret    
Code;  c0110484 No symbols available
  13:   83                        .byte 0x83
Code;  c0110485 No symbols available
  14:   78                        .byte 0x78


That's oopsing when trying to write to the APIC:

	apic_write_around(APIC_EOI, 0);

<cc's x86 people>

Is there any sane way in which APIC accesses can fault, or does this
indicate bad hardware?


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* Re: [2.6] Problem with PDC20265 on system with I865 chipset and PIV HT
  2006-01-13  8:16 ` Andrew Morton
@ 2006-01-13 17:14   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
  2006-01-15 19:18     ` Miroslaw Mieszczak
  2006-01-14  6:48   ` Ingo Molnar
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Zwane Mwaikambo @ 2006-01-13 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton
  Cc: Miroslaw Mieszczak, Linux Kernel, Ingo Molnar, Seth, Rohit, ajk

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Andrew Morton wrote:

> This decode from eip onwards should be reliable
> 
> Code;  c0110471 No symbols available
> 00000000 <_EIP>:
> Code;  c0110471 No symbols available   <=====
>    0:   c7 05 b0 d0 ff ff 00      movl   $0x0,0xffffd0b0   <=====
> Code;  c0110478 No symbols available
>    7:   00 00 00 
> Code;  c011047b No symbols available
>    a:   f0 0f b3 15 38 d6 57      lock btr %edx,0xc057d638
> Code;  c0110482 No symbols available
>   11:   c0 
> Code;  c0110483 No symbols available
>   12:   c3                        ret    
> Code;  c0110484 No symbols available
>   13:   83                        .byte 0x83
> Code;  c0110485 No symbols available
>   14:   78                        .byte 0x78
> 
> 
> That's oopsing when trying to write to the APIC:
> 
> 	apic_write_around(APIC_EOI, 0);
> 
> <cc's x86 people>
> 
> Is there any sane way in which APIC accesses can fault, or does this
> indicate bad hardware?

Without pagetable corruption no they shouldn't fault, interestingly this 
looks like;

http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5565

Albeit with a pdc20262. Miroslaw, are there any other similarities in 
hardware with that bugzilla entry?

Thanks,
	Zwane


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* Re: [2.6] Problem with PDC20265 on system with I865 chipset and PIV HT
  2006-01-13  8:16 ` Andrew Morton
  2006-01-13 17:14   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
@ 2006-01-14  6:48   ` Ingo Molnar
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ingo Molnar @ 2006-01-14  6:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton
  Cc: Miroslaw Mieszczak, linux-kernel, Zwane Mwaikambo, Seth, Rohit


* Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:

> That's oopsing when trying to write to the APIC:
> 
> 	apic_write_around(APIC_EOI, 0);
> 
> <cc's x86 people>
> 
> Is there any sane way in which APIC accesses can fault, or does this 
> indicate bad hardware?

no - the local APIC in that context is like ordinary memory. If there's  
fault, it must be the pagetables.

perhaps the "data corruption and system crash" mentioned in the report 
corrupted kernel pagetables?

	Ingo

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* Re: [2.6] Problem with PDC20265 on system with I865 chipset and PIV HT
  2006-01-13 17:14   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
@ 2006-01-15 19:18     ` Miroslaw Mieszczak
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Miroslaw Mieszczak @ 2006-01-15 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zwane Mwaikambo
  Cc: Andrew Morton, Linux Kernel, Ingo Molnar, Seth, Rohit, ajk


> Without pagetable corruption no they shouldn't fault, interestingly this 
> looks like;
>
> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5565
>
> Albeit with a pdc20262. Miroslaw, are there any other similarities in 
> hardware with that bugzilla entry?
>
> Thanks,
> 	Zwane
>
>   
Hmm. Yes it looks to be similar. Right now on my equipment the only 
workaround for it is use of kernel parameters ide[23]=serialize. I use 
it since about 1 year and this works fine.
Maybe Andrew can check same setting on his equipment?

Regards

Mirek


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