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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:47:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060214234729.GB3595@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060214182238.GB3513@stusta.de>

On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 07:22:38PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 07:14:21PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > >
> > >Make INPUT a bool.
> > >
> > >INPUT!=y is only possible if EMBEDDED=y, and in such cases it doesn't 
> > >make that much sense to make it modular.
> > >
> > modular would make sense to me - http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/1/25/106
> >...
> 
> I don't get your point:
> 
> You don't need INPUT modular for hotplugging devices.
> 
> In the normal EMBEDDED=n cases, users already do not have the choice of 
> making INPUT modular.
> 
> If someone is working in an environment that is that space limited that 
> he sets EMBEDDED=y, why on earth should he enable module support that 
> uses relatively much space in his kernel?
>...

To back this with numbers:

I'm usually using a non-modular kernel on my computer.

This is the size difference between the same kernel with 
CONFIG_MODULES=y and CONFIG_MODULES=n:
  3799589 vmlinux-with-modules
  3447297 vmlinux-without-modules

Yes, the kernel is becoming bigger by 10% only for supporting modules.

Since the size increase is the space for the module support part of the 
kernel plus some additional space in many object files for stuff like 
EXPORT_SYMBOL's, the relative size increase is most likely even bigger 
for small kernels.

cu
Adrian

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-14 23:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-14 15:22 [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool Adrian Bunk
2006-02-14 18:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 18:22   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-14 23:47     ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-02-17 15:56     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-17 16:38       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-20  3:33         ` Samuel Masham
2006-02-20 13:28           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22  1:34             ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22  2:31               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22  2:44                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22  3:10                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22  3:20                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-23 19:59                       ` Status of X86_P4_CLOCKMOD? Adrian Bunk
2006-02-23 20:41                         ` Dave Jones
2006-02-23 23:15                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 23:33                             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-23 23:55                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24  2:39                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-24  2:42                                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 17:33                                     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25  1:57                           ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-25  4:24                             ` Dave Jones
2006-02-25 12:53                               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-27 21:17                                 ` Wes Felter
2006-02-25  4:27                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 12:53                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 13:28                                 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-26 11:12                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-26 20:39                                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-26 20:55                                     ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-26 23:37                                       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-25 13:36                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 13:05                               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-28 19:46                           ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 20:09                             ` Dave Jones
2006-02-28 20:19                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-28 20:47                               ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 20:57                                 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-28 21:26                                   ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 21:34                                     ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-28 21:39                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-28 22:22                                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-22 12:01                     ` [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22 12:15                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22 18:09                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-25 11:58                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-02-25 12:46                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 14:22                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 14:50                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 15:29                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 15:40                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 22:01                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 22:07                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 22:23                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-26 18:13                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-27  7:11                                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-02-27 12:59                                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-02-25 14:57                       ` Jesper Juhl
2006-02-15  6:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-16 23:22   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-17  1:47     ` Dmitry Torokhov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-24 18:19 [PATCH] Export symbols so CONFIG_INPUT works as a module Martin Michlmayr
2006-01-24 23:08 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-01-24 23:14   ` Martin Michlmayr
2006-01-25  5:04     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-03 22:36       ` [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool Adrian Bunk

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