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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@intel.linux.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [Patch 3/3] prepopulate/cache cleared pages
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:41:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200602231041.00566.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1140686994.4672.4.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

On Thursday 23 February 2006 10:29, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> This patch adds an entry for a cleared page to the task struct. The main
> purpose of this patch is to be able to pre-allocate and clear a page in a
> pagefault scenario before taking any locks (esp mmap_sem),
> opportunistically. Allocating+clearing a page is an very expensive 
> operation that currently increases lock hold times quite bit (in a threaded 
> environment that allocates/use/frees memory on a regular basis, this leads
> to contention).
> 
> This is probably the most controversial patch of the 3, since there is
> a potential to take up 1 page per thread in this cache. In practice it's
> not as bad as it sounds (a large degree of the pagefaults are anonymous 
> and thus immediately use up the page). One could argue "let the VM reap
> these" but that has a few downsides; it increases locking needs but more,
> clearing a page is relatively expensive, if the VM reaps the page again
> in case it wasn't needed, the work was just wasted.

Looks like an incredible bad hack. What workload was that again where it helps?
And how much? I think before we can consider adding that ugly code you would a far better
rationale.

-Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-23  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-23  9:17 [Patch 0/3] threaded mmap tweaks Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23  9:29 ` [Patch 3/3] prepopulate/cache cleared pages Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23  9:41   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-02-23 12:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-23 13:06       ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 13:15         ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-23 13:29           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-24  6:36             ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-24  6:49               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-24  7:01                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-24 12:33                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 12:55                     ` Hugh Dickins
2006-02-24  9:15               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-24  9:26                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-24 12:27                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 15:31                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-02-25 16:48                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-25 17:22                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-28 22:30       ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-23 18:25   ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-23  9:30 ` [Patch 2/3] fast VMA recycling Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23  9:42   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23  9:48     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 10:05       ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 10:15         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 11:00           ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 11:22             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 11:57               ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 18:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-24 19:05         ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 19:09           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-23 16:37   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-23 20:02 [Patch 3/3] prepopulate/cache cleared pages Chuck Ebbert
2006-02-23 21:10 Chuck Ebbert
2006-02-23 21:18 ` Arjan van de Ven

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