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From: greg@enjellic.com
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Adrian Ulrich <reiser4@blinkenlights.ch>,
	vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl, ipso@snappymail.ca, reiser@namesys.com,
	lkml@lpbproductions.com, jeff@garzik.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:37:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200608071737.k77Hbjph002429@wind.enjellic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> "Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion" (Jul 31,  3:41pm)

On Jul 31,  3:41pm, Theodore Tso wrote:
} Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.or

> On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 06:54:06PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote:
> > > > This looks rather like an education issue rather than a technical limit.
> > > 
> > > We aren't talking about the same issue: I was asking to do it
> > > on-the-fly. Umounting the filesystem, running e2fsck and resize2fs
> > > is something different ;-)
> > 
> > There was stuff by Andreas Dilger, to support "online" resizing of
> > mounted ext2 file systems. I never cared to look for this (does it
> > support ext3, does it work with current kernels, merge status) since
> > offline resizing was always sufficient for me.

> With the latest e2fsprogs and 2.6 kernels, the online resizing
> support has been merged in, and as long as the filesystem was
> created with space reserved for growing the filesystem (which is now
> the default, or if the filesystem has the off-line prepration step
> ext2prepare run on it), you can run resize2fs on a mounted
> filesystem and grow an ext2/3 filesystem on-line.  And yes, you get
> more inodes as you add more disk blocks, using the original inode
> ratio that was established when the filesystem was created.

Are all the necessary tools in and documented in e2fsprogs?

It seems that finding all the bits and pieces to do ext3 on-line
expansion has been a study in obfuscation.  Somewhat surprising since
this feature is a must for enterprise class storage management.

> 						- Ted

Best wishes for a productive week.

}-- End of excerpt from Theodore Tso

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             reply	other threads:[~2006-08-07 17:38 UTC|newest]

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2006-08-07 17:37 greg [this message]
2006-08-07 17:55 ` the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-07 18:34 ` David Masover
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2006-08-05 19:38                     ` Bodo Eggert
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2006-07-26 12:43 Luuk van der Duim
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2006-07-23 18:26         ` André Goddard Rosa
2006-07-22 15:21 Luuk van der Duim
2006-07-21 19:46 Hans Reiser
2006-07-22  0:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-22 19:19   ` Diego Calleja
2006-07-22 13:02 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-22 14:30   ` Eric Sandeen
2006-07-22 18:33   ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-22 20:29     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-23  7:20       ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-23  9:12         ` Matt Heler
2006-07-24  4:01           ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-24  8:54             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24  8:13               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-24 10:25                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24 11:34                   ` Christian Iversen
2006-07-24 12:37                     ` Erik Mouw
2006-07-24 16:57                   ` Mike Benoit
2006-07-24 17:35                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24 18:28                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-24 18:06                     ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-24 20:37                       ` Mike Benoit
2006-07-24 21:22                         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-24 21:51                         ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-25 15:08                           ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-07-25 20:49                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-25 23:04                               ` David Masover
2006-07-26 11:20                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-26 11:26                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-26 13:02                                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-07-26 18:54                                     ` Buddy Lucas
2006-07-27  1:29                                   ` David Masover
2006-07-26  0:29                           ` David Masover
2006-07-26  0:36                             ` David Lang
2006-07-26  0:47                               ` David Masover
2006-07-31 10:58                       ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 14:47                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 15:59                           ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 16:22                             ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 16:44                               ` David Masover
2006-07-31 17:34                                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-07-31 18:36                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 16:44                               ` Rudy Zijlstra
2006-07-31 17:20                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 17:32                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 17:46                                   ` Dan Oglesby
2006-07-31 18:11                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 18:43                                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 19:17                                       ` Clay Barnes
2006-07-31 19:29                                         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 20:00                                           ` David Masover
2006-07-31 21:14                                           ` Bernd Schubert
2006-08-01 14:28                                             ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-01 14:52                                               ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01 15:29                                                 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-01 16:44                                                   ` David Masover
2006-08-01 17:04                                                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2006-08-01 12:01                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 17:41                                                       ` David Masover
2006-08-01 18:14                                                         ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01 17:19                                                     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-01 11:36                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 17:40                                                       ` David Masover
2006-08-01 19:27                                                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-08-03 13:58                                                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-01 18:11                                                   ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01 18:21                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2006-08-01 11:41                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-03 14:03                                                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-03 15:44                                                         ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-03 17:26                                                           ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-04 17:04                                                             ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-04 18:57                                                               ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-05  1:02                                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-05  0:56                                                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-06 22:19                                                                 ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-09  8:40                                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-09 11:53                                                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-09 15:48                                                                       ` David Masover
2006-08-07  7:57                                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-08 11:06                                                             ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-01 19:11                                                     ` David Masover
2006-08-03 14:03                                                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-03 16:50                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-01 16:57                                               ` David Masover
2006-08-06 22:59                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-06 23:36                                                   ` David Masover
2006-08-09  8:37                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-09  9:48                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-09  9:15                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-09 15:52                                                     ` David Masover
2006-07-31 19:42                                         ` Alan Cox
2006-07-31 19:34                                           ` Clay Barnes
2006-07-31 21:00                                           ` Gregory Maxwell
2006-07-31 21:40                                             ` Alan Cox
2006-07-31 21:43                                               ` David Masover
2006-07-31 21:54                                             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 22:02                                               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 22:21                                                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 22:56                                               ` Nate Diller
2006-07-31 23:52                                                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 23:43                                                   ` Nate Diller
2006-08-01  0:15                                                     ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2006-07-31 22:17                                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 21:21                                   ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2006-07-31 16:47                               ` Dan Oglesby
2006-07-31 17:16                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 17:34                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 17:44                                   ` Dan Oglesby
2006-07-31 16:54                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 17:56                               ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 20:07                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 20:32                                   ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 19:41                               ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-31 22:53                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-01  2:33                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 10:40                             ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-01 10:59                               ` venom
2006-07-31 16:52                           ` David Masover
2006-08-01  6:22                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-26 13:17                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-27 15:39                   ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-07-27 17:28                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-28  2:40                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-27 17:56                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-27 19:06                     ` David Masover
2006-07-28  2:26                     ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-23 11:48         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-23 20:46         ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-23 21:15           ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-23 23:22             ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-23 22:35               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-25 19:13         ` Russell Cattelan
2006-07-25 23:51           ` David Masover
2006-07-26 14:26             ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-26 18:16               ` Russell Cattelan
2006-07-27  1:19                 ` David Masover
2006-07-26  0:44         ` David Masover
2006-07-26  7:59           ` the ' 'official' point of view' " Luigi Genoni
2006-07-26 14:33           ` the " 'official' point of view" " Hans Reiser
2006-07-26 10:38         ` David Weinehall
2006-07-24  8:41       ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24  8:09         ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-24 10:32           ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24 13:49         ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-23  7:20   ` Rene Rebe
2006-07-24  7:49     ` Nikita Danilov
2006-07-25 12:35       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-07-25 12:51         ` Rene Rebe
2006-07-25 17:47         ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-25 19:20           ` Francesco Biscani
2006-07-25 21:17           ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-25 22:48             ` Jim Crilly
2006-07-25 23:48               ` andrea
2006-07-25 23:45             ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-26 12:45           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 13:29             ` andrea
2006-07-26 13:43               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 14:28                 ` andrea
2006-07-26 14:50                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 16:06                     ` andrea
2006-07-26 16:53                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 17:02                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-26 17:20                         ` andrea
2006-07-26 19:01                           ` Jerome Pinot
2006-07-26 20:50                             ` andrea
2006-07-26 20:50                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 21:17                             ` andrea
2006-07-26 21:37                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-26 22:17                                 ` andrea
2006-07-27  6:56                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27  8:33                                 ` the ' 'official' point of view' " Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 10:04                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 11:07                                     ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 11:35                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 11:43                                         ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 11:56                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 13:30                                       ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-27 13:42                                         ` gmu 2k6
2006-07-27 13:50                                         ` andrea
2006-07-27 14:31                                         ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 18:37                                           ` Jim Crilly
2006-07-27 19:34                                             ` andrea
2006-07-27 18:43                                           ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-27 20:11                                             ` andrea
2006-07-27 12:21                                     ` CaT
2006-07-28  2:25                                     ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-28 10:01                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-28 14:05                                       ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-27 11:52                                 ` the " 'official' point of view" " andrea
2006-07-27 12:18                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 13:10                                     ` andrea
2006-07-27 13:58                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 14:45                                         ` andrea
2006-07-27 15:05                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 16:11                                             ` andrea
2006-07-28  2:25                                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-28 14:31                                                 ` andrea
2006-07-28  1:47                                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-27  4:35                             ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-27 13:26                               ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-24  2:08   ` Steve Lord
2006-07-24  7:53     ` Nikita Danilov
2006-07-24 10:30       ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-24 11:35         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-24 13:39           ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-24 15:38             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-24 16:17               ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-24 17:50                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-24 18:29                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-26 13:08               ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-27 15:52                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-27 16:43                 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-25 21:44         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-24 22:17 ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-25  8:05   ` Hans Reiser

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