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* Re: sonypc with Sony Vaio VGN-SZ1VP
@ 2006-09-27 11:51 stelian
  2006-09-28 16:27 ` Yu Luming
  2007-01-04  5:24 ` Len Brown
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: stelian @ 2006-09-27 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Len Brown
  Cc: Andrew Morton, Ismail Donmez, Stelian Pop, Andrea Gelmini,
	linux-kernel, linux-acpi

>> > Will sony_acpi ever make it to the mainline? Its very useful for new
>> Vaio
>> > models.
>
> Nope, not as it is.  Useful != supportable.
>
> 1. It must not create any files under /proc/acpi
>     This is creating a machine-specific API, which
>     is exactly what we don't want  Nobody can maintain
>     50 machine specific APIs.
>
>     These objects must appear generic and under sysfs
>     as if acpi were not involved in providing them.
>
> 2. its source code shall not live in drivers/acpi
>     it is not part of the ACPI implementation after all --
>     it is a platform specific driver.

In this case, would a patch ripping off asus_acpi, ibm_acpi and
toshiba_acpi  from the kernel be accepted ?

I don't really care much about sony_acpi (since I'm not maintaining it
anymore, even if I still answer support requests about it), but this is
just silly. This has been going on for more than one and a half year now.

Meanwhile (at least from what I've seen), the ACPI subsystem still doesn't
provide this "generic" API which platform specific driver need to
implement. drivers/acpi/{hotkey.c,video.c} are just rudimentary, and there
is no indication that this is going forward:

In March 2005 you (Len) said:

> The goal is to DELETE ibm, toshiba, and asus drivers -- or at least the
> duplicated functions in them.
>
> platform specific drivers make it harder, not easier, to support more
> hardware -- there are a zillion vendors out there, implementing special
> drivers for each of them is a strategy of last resort.

and

> I'd like to keep this driver out-of-tree
> until we prove that we can't enhance the
> generic code to handle this hardware
> without the addition of a new driver.

How long is this going to take ?

Stelian.


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2006-09-27 11:51 sonypc with Sony Vaio VGN-SZ1VP stelian
2006-09-28 16:27 ` Yu Luming
2007-01-04  5:24 ` Len Brown
2007-01-04 10:09   ` Stelian Pop
2007-01-04 19:15     ` Mattia Dongili
2007-01-04 20:51       ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-04 21:18         ` Mattia Dongili
2007-01-04 21:28           ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-04 21:36             ` Timo Hoenig
2007-01-04 21:36             ` Richard Hughes
2007-01-04 21:58               ` Mattia Dongili
2007-01-05 17:02                 ` Len Brown
2007-01-05 18:06                   ` Mattia Dongili
2007-01-04 23:36         ` Stelian Pop
2007-01-04 23:44           ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-04 23:54             ` Stelian Pop
2007-01-05  4:16               ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-05  9:58                 ` Stelian Pop
2007-01-05  2:20             ` MoRpHeUz
2007-01-05 17:11               ` Sony Vaio VGN-SZ340 (was Re: sonypc with Sony Vaio VGN-SZ1VP) Len Brown
2007-01-05 17:24                 ` MoRpHeUz
2007-01-05 18:10                   ` Len Brown
2007-01-06  4:09                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-01-11 19:52                       ` Len Brown
2007-01-11 20:01                         ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-01-05  0:11           ` sonypc with Sony Vaio VGN-SZ1VP Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-05  9:15             ` Mattia Dongili
2007-01-05  9:59             ` Stelian Pop
2007-01-04 23:34       ` Stelian Pop
2007-01-05 10:02       ` Stelian Pop
2007-01-05 12:13         ` Mattia Dongili
2007-01-05 14:23           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-09 15:19   ` Luming Yu

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