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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: jbohac@suse.cz
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
	ssouhlal@freebsd.org, arjan@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	johnstul@us.ibm.com, zippel@linux-m68k.org, andrea@suse.de
Subject: Re: [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:20:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200702011220.59484.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070201095952.589234000@jet.suse.cz>

On Thursday 01 February 2007 10:59, jbohac@suse.cz wrote:

> 
> Inter-CPU monotonicity can not, however, be guaranteed in a vsyscall, so
> vsyscall is not used by default.

Only for unsynchronized machines I hope 

> Still, the syscall version of gettimeofday is 
> a lot faster using the TSC approximation instead of other hardware timers.

Yes that makes sense.

The big strategic problem is how to marry your patchkit to John Stultz's
clocksources work which is also competing for merge. Any thoughts on that? 

>When strict inter-CPU monotonicity is not needed, the vsyscall version of
>gettimeofday may be forced using the "nomonotonic" command line parameter.
>gettimeofday()'s monotonicity is guaranteed on a single CPU even with the very
>fast vsyscall version.  Across CPUs, the vsyscall version of gettimeofday is
>not guaranteed to be monotonic, but it should be pretty close. Currently, we
>get errors of tens/hundreds of microseconds.

I think a better way to do this would be to define a new CLOCK_THREAD_MONOTONOUS
(or better name) timer for clock_gettime(). 

[and my currently stalled vdso patches that implement clock_gettime
as a vsyscall]

Then also an application could easily use it with LD_PRELOAD

-Andi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-02-01 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-01  9:59 [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday jbohac
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 1/9] Fix HPET init race jbohac
2007-02-02  2:34   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-06 16:44     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-07  0:12       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-10 12:31         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-26 20:58           ` Robin Holt
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 2/9] Remove the support for the VXTIME_PMTMR timer mode jbohac
2007-02-01 11:13   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:13     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 13:13       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:59         ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 14:18           ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 3/9] Remove the support for the VXTIME_HPET " jbohac
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 4/9] Remove the TSC synchronization on SMP machines jbohac
2007-02-01 11:14   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:17     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 15:16       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-02  7:14         ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13  0:34           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-13  6:40             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-13  8:28               ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13  8:41                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-13 17:09               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-13 17:20                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 22:18                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-13 22:38                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-14  6:59                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-13 23:55                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-14  0:18                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-14  0:25                     ` john stultz
2007-02-02  7:13       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 21:05     ` mbligh
2007-02-03  1:16   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 5/9] Add all the necessary structures to the vsyscall page jbohac
2007-02-01 11:17   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 6/9] Add the "Master Timer" jbohac
2007-02-01 11:22   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:29     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 7/9] Adapt the time initialization code jbohac
2007-02-01 11:26   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:41     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 10:00 ` [patch 8/9] Add time_update_mt_guess() jbohac
2007-02-01 11:28   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:54     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 10:00 ` [patch 9/9] Make use of the Master Timer jbohac
2007-02-01 11:36   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 14:29     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 15:23       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-02  7:05         ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-02  7:04       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 11:20 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-02-01 11:53   ` [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-01 12:02     ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:54       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-01 12:17   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 14:52   ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 16:56     ` john stultz
2007-02-01 19:41       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-01 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 11:46 ` [-mm patch] x86_64 GTOD: offer scalable vgettimeofday Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 12:01   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:14     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 12:17   ` [-mm patch] x86_64 GTOD: offer scalable vgettimeofday II Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 12:45       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-02  4:22 ` [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday Andrew Morton
2007-02-02  7:07   ` Andi Kleen

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