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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: linux-mm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [QUICKLIST 0/4] Arch independent quicklists V2
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:27:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070313042742.e35b7511.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703130413080.5720@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
> > > Page table pages have the characteristics that they are typically zero
> > > or in a known state when they are freed.
> > 
> > Well if they're zero then perhaps they should be released to the page 
> > allocator to satisfy the next __GFP_ZERO request.  If that request is 
> > for a pagetable page, we break even (except we get to remove 
> > special-case code).  If that __GFP_ZERO allocation was or some 
> > application other than for a pagetable, we win.
> 
> Nope that wont work.
> 
> 1. We need to support other states of pages other than zeroed.

What does this mean?

> 2. Prezeroing does not make much sense if a large portion of the
>    page is being used. Performance is better if the whole page 
>    is zeroed directly before use.Prezeroing only makes sense for sparse
>    allocations like the page table pages.

This is not related to the above discussion.

> > (Will require some work in the page allocator)
> > (That work will open the path to using the idle thread to prezero pages)
> 
> I already tried that 3 years ago and there was *no* benefit for usual
> users of the a page allocator. The advantage exists only if a small
> portion of the page is used. F.e. For one cacheline there was a 4x 
> improvement. See lkml archives for prezeroing.

Unsurprised.  Were non-temporal stores tried?

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-13 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-13  7:13 [QUICKLIST 0/4] Arch independent quicklists V2 Christoph Lameter
2007-03-13  7:13 ` [QUICKLIST 1/4] Generic quicklist implementation Christoph Lameter
2007-03-13  9:05   ` Paul Mundt
2007-03-15 20:51     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-13  7:13 ` [QUICKLIST 2/4] Quicklist support for i386 Christoph Lameter
2007-03-13  7:13 ` [QUICKLIST 3/4] Quicklist support for x86_64 Christoph Lameter
2007-03-13  7:13 ` [QUICKLIST 4/4] Quicklist support for sparc64 Christoph Lameter
2007-03-13  8:53 ` [QUICKLIST 0/4] Arch independent quicklists V2 Andrew Morton
2007-03-13  8:03   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 11:52     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-13 11:06       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 12:15         ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-13 11:20           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-13 12:30             ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-15 20:23               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-13 11:30           ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 12:47             ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-13 12:01               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 13:11                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-13 12:18                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 17:30                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 20:03                   ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-13 20:17                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 20:21                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-13 21:07                         ` David Miller
2007-03-13 21:14                           ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-13 21:36                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 21:46                               ` Peter Chubb
2007-03-13 21:48                             ` David Miller
2007-03-14  1:12               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-15 23:12                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-13 23:58       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-13 11:17   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-13 12:27     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-03-15 20:28       ` Christoph Lameter

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