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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: ck@vds.kolivas.org
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ck] Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:31:38 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703132031.39370.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703132021.50712.kernel@kolivas.org>

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 20:21, Con Kolivas wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 19:18, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > [...] The situation as we speak is that you can run cpu intensive
> > > tasks while watching eye-candy.  With RSDL, you can't, you feel the
> > > non-interactive load instantly. [...]
> >
> > i have to agree with Mike that this is a material regression that cannot
> > be talked around.
> >
> > Con, we want RSDL to /improve/ interactivity. Having new scheduler
> > interactivity logic that behaves /worse/ in the presence of CPU hogs,
> > which CPU hogs are even reniced to +5, than the current interactivity
> > code, is i think a non-starter. Could you try to fix this, please? Good
> > interactivity in the presence of CPU hogs (be them default nice level or
> > nice +5) is _the_ most important scheduler interactivity metric.
> > Anything else is really secondary.
>
> Well I guess you must have missed where I asked him if he would be happy if
> I changed +5 metrics to do whatever he wanted and he refused to answer me.
> That would easily fit within that scheme. Any percentage of nice value he
> chose. I suggest 50% of nice 0. Heck I can even increase it if he likes.
> All I asked for was an answer as to whether that would satisfy his
> criterion.

It seem Mike has chosen to go silent so I'll guess on his part. 

nice on my debian etch seems to choose nice +10 without arguments contrary to 
a previous discussion that said 4 was the default. However 4 is a good value 
to use as a base of sorts.

What I propose is as a proportion of nice 0:
nice 4 1/2
nice 8 1/4
nice 12 1/8
nice 16 1/16
nice 20 1/32 (of course nice 20 doesn't exist)

and we can do the opposite in the other direction
nice -4 2
nice -8 4
nice -12 8
nice -16 16
nice -20 32

Assuming no further discussion is forthcoming I'll implement that along with 
Al's suggestion for staggering the latencies better with nice differences 
since the two are changing the same thing.

-- 
-ck

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-13  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-11  3:57 [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2 Con Kolivas
2007-03-11 11:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-11 11:48   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-11 12:08     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-11 12:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-11 12:20     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-11 21:18       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12  7:22     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12  7:48       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12  8:29         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12  8:55           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12  9:22             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12  9:38               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 10:27                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 10:57                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 11:08                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-12 11:23                       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 13:48                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-03-12 18:09                           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 14:34                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 15:26                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-12 18:10                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 19:36                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-12 20:36                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  4:17                             ` Kyle Moffett
2007-03-13  8:09                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-12 18:49                           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 19:06                             ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-13 17:21                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-03-12 20:11                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 20:38                               ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 20:45                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 22:51                                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13  5:10                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  5:53                                       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13  6:08                                         ` [ck] " Rodney Gordon II
2007-03-13  6:17                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  7:53                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  8:22                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-13  8:18                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-13  8:22                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  9:21                                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13  9:29                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-13  9:41                                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 10:50                                               ` Bill Huey
2007-03-13  9:31                                           ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2007-03-13 10:24                                             ` [ck] " Xavier Bestel
2007-03-13 23:19                                               ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2007-03-13  9:33                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  9:39                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-13 10:06                                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 11:23                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13 11:41                                                 ` Serge Belyshev
2007-03-13 11:46                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13 15:36                                                   ` John Stoffel
2007-03-13 14:17                                           ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-13 15:15                                         ` David Schwartz
2007-03-13 17:59                                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 19:58                                             ` David Schwartz
2007-03-13 20:10                                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 20:35                                                 ` Bill Huey
2007-03-13 20:27                                               ` Bill Huey
2007-03-16 16:42                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-12 23:43                                   ` David Lang
2007-03-13  2:23                                     ` Lee Revell
2007-03-13  6:00                                       ` David Lang
2007-03-12 21:34                                 ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-12 21:38                                 ` michael chang
2007-03-13  0:09                                   ` Thibaut VARENE
2007-03-13  6:08                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  6:16                                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13  6:30                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 20:42                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-12 21:05                               ` Serge Belyshev
2007-03-12 21:41                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 11:25                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12  9:38               ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-12 10:34                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 16:38                   ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-14  2:25                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-03-14  3:25                       ` Gabriel C
2007-03-14  9:44                         ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-12  8:44         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-11 14:32   ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-12  6:58     ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-03-12 11:16       ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-12 11:49         ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-12 11:58           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 16:38             ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-12 18:34               ` Gene Heskett

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