From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
miklos@szeredi.hu, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
David Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: failure to boot on HP nx6325, no sound when booted, USB-related WARNING
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:35:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200709201935.04400.lenb@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0709201437310.16478@woody.linux-foundation.org>
On Thursday 20 September 2007 17:55, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > (Btw, the above commit message points to just my response with a testing
> > patch to the real email: the actual explanation of the INSANE ordering is
> > from Len Brown in
> >
> > https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/linux-pm/2006-November/004161.html
> >
> > and there Len claims that we *must* wake up CPU's early).
>
> ..and points to commit 1a38416cea8ac801ae8f261074721f35317613dc which in
> turn talks about http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5651
>
> Howerver, it seems that bugzilla entry may just be bogus. It talks about
> "it appears that some firmware in the future may depend on that sequence
> for correction operation"
>
> Len, Shaohua, what are the real issues here?
Intel's reference BIOS for Core Duo performs some re-initialization
in _WAK that will get blow away if INIT follows _WAK.
IIR, it is related to re-initializing the thermal sensors.
I opened bug 5651 when the BIOS team informed me of this issue.
Yes, bringing a processor offline and then online again w/o
an intervening suspend or reset would not evaluate _WAK,
and thus may still run into the issue.
I don't know if this is a widespread issue and a commonly
used BIOS hook, or if it is specific to certain processors.
-Len
> It would indeed be nice if we could just take CPU's down early (while
> everything is working), and run the whole suspend code with just one CPU,
> rather than having to worry about the ordering between CPU and device
> takedown.
>
> That said, at least with STR, the situation is:
>
> 1) suspend_console
> 2) device_suspend(PMSG_SUSPEND) (== ->suspend)
> 3) disable_nonboot_cpus()
> 4) device_power_down(PMSG_SUSPEND) (== ->suspend_late)
> 5) pm_ops->enter()
> 6) device_power_up() (== ->resume_early)
> 7) enable_nonboot_cpus()
> 8) pm_finish()
> 9) device_resume() (== ->resume
> 10) resume_console
>
> So if we agree that things like timers etc should *never* be suspended by
> the early suspend, and *always* use "suspend_late/resume_early", then at
> least STR should be ok.
>
> And I think that's a damn reasonable thing to agree on: timers (and
> anything else that CPU shutdown/bringup could *possibly* care about)
> should be considered core enough that they had better be on the
> suspend_late/resume_early list.
>
> Thomas, Rafael, can you verify that at least STR is ok in this respect?
>
> Linus
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2007-09-18 8:18 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 8:24 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 9:13 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Kamalesh Babulal
2007-09-18 9:27 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 9:34 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Satyam Sharma
2007-09-18 19:17 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Greg KH
2007-09-22 9:21 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Satyam Sharma
2007-09-25 5:35 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Greg KH
2007-09-18 9:34 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-18 10:02 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-09-18 12:07 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Kamalesh Babulal
2007-09-18 16:53 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 19:16 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Greg KH
2007-09-18 21:35 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-09-18 15:07 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-18 15:50 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 15:27 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Miles Lane
2007-09-18 15:39 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Miles Lane
2007-09-18 15:52 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 19:17 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 19:42 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Miles Lane
2007-09-18 20:26 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 22:38 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Gabriel C
2007-09-18 22:48 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Gabriel C
2007-09-19 19:33 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-19 20:36 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Gabriel C
2007-09-19 20:43 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-19 18:48 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 15:43 ` modpost errors ( Re: 2.6.23-rc6-mm1) Gabriel C
2007-09-18 15:56 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 16:37 ` [v4l-dvb-maintainer] " mkrufky
2007-09-18 22:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-18 16:20 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: Build failure on ppc64 drivers/net/ehea/ehea_main.c Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 16:41 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 19:08 ` David Miller
2007-09-18 17:18 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 (watchdog) Randy Dunlap
2007-09-18 17:41 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-09-18 17:20 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Miles Lane
2007-09-18 18:05 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 17:44 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Mel Gorman
2007-09-19 16:29 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: kgdb support on ppc64 utterly broken Mel Gorman
2007-09-22 8:41 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Satyam Sharma
2007-09-24 11:14 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 19:32 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 - Mostly working, with a kbuild oddity Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-18 20:32 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 22:03 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-19 7:34 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-19 15:53 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-19 17:39 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 20:21 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: failure to boot on HP nx6325 Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-18 20:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-18 21:37 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: failure to boot on HP nx6325, no sound when booted, USB-related WARNING Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-19 7:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-19 17:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-19 19:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 0:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 6:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 13:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 13:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 14:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 13:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 14:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 14:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 15:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 20:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 21:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 21:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-20 21:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 22:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 21:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-20 22:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 22:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 12:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-21 14:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 16:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-21 19:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 19:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-21 19:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 23:35 ` Len Brown [this message]
2007-09-21 7:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-21 9:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 4:51 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-09-21 8:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-10-11 21:19 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-20 21:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 21:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 22:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 9:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 20:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-18 20:54 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 sparc build error Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-18 21:05 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-20 12:53 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-09-21 13:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-18 21:45 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: atomic counter underflow Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-09-19 8:27 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-09-19 16:43 ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-09-19 18:02 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-09-20 7:42 ` kobject: Temporarily save k_name on cleanup for debug message Cornelia Huck
2007-09-20 7:43 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-09-20 17:26 ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-09-20 13:35 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: atomic counter underflow Cornelia Huck
2007-09-20 16:30 ` Pierre Ossman
2007-09-20 17:27 ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-09-19 9:28 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 -- powerpc link failure Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-19 16:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-19 16:52 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-19 17:44 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-25 13:40 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-19 9:36 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 -- powerpc pSeries_log_error panic in rtas_call/early_enable_eeh Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-19 11:43 ` X-freeze after clflush changes [Was: 2.6.23-rc6-mm1] Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 11:53 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 14:59 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 19:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-19 19:24 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-19 19:46 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 19:54 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-19 19:57 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 20:01 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 21:42 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-19 20:32 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-19 20:47 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-20 13:17 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-20 22:24 ` Dave Airlie
2007-09-20 1:51 ` Dave Airlie
2007-09-20 7:24 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-20 7:33 ` Dave Airlie
2007-09-20 9:24 ` Zhenyu Wang
2007-09-20 22:10 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-21 1:27 ` Zhenyu Wang
2007-09-20 0:18 ` Dave Airlie
2007-09-20 1:42 ` Dave Airlie
2007-09-20 2:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-20 7:19 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-20 22:06 ` Matt Mackall
2007-09-20 23:03 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-20 23:31 ` Matt Mackall
2007-09-20 23:44 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-21 17:18 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-21 7:07 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-21 17:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-21 17:30 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-21 17:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-21 19:33 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-21 19:38 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-21 19:43 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-24 3:25 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-24 6:06 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-24 7:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-24 8:10 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 16:43 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 -- mkfs stuck in 'D' Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-19 20:03 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-09-19 20:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-20 11:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-09-20 12:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20070922015509.GA5332@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-22 1:55 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-22 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20070923012049.GA6010@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-23 1:20 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-23 13:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20070924030109.GA5892@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-24 3:01 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-24 7:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20070924081207.GA2266@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-24 8:12 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-23 14:19 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 -- ipg.c don't compile on i386 with CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G trem
2007-09-19 23:02 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Tilman Schmidt
2007-09-19 23:24 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-19 23:28 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Chuck Ebbert
2007-09-19 23:55 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Tilman Schmidt
2007-09-20 19:10 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Tilman Schmidt
2007-09-19 23:44 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 David Brownell
2007-09-20 0:06 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-20 4:43 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 David Brownell
2007-09-20 6:11 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-20 7:54 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Kay Sievers
2007-09-20 16:15 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 David Brownell
2007-09-20 8:51 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Alessandro Zummo
2007-09-20 17:36 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 David Brownell
2007-09-20 19:20 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Tilman Schmidt
2007-09-20 20:25 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 0:53 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Tilman Schmidt
2007-09-19 23:58 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Joseph Fannin
2007-09-20 0:09 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <f86d6cc00709200721h6e8f7cf8xa2264e9d1f88883b@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <f86d6cc00709200912j37a3218boa882a044c0610779@mail.gmail.com>
2007-09-20 19:44 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 2:04 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Joseph Fannin
2007-09-21 2:04 ` [PATCH] make mv643xx_eth.c build again Joseph Fannin
2007-09-20 8:41 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 - make access to tasks nsproxy ligther (fix) Cedric Le Goater
2007-09-20 8:59 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-20 9:12 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-09-20 17:08 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-09-24 4:00 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-09-20 13:13 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: Build failure on ppc64 drivers/ata/pata_scc.c Mel Gorman
2007-09-20 14:09 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-20 15:14 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-20 15:45 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2007-09-22 2:50 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-24 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-26 3:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-20 13:25 ` Build failure on ppc64 drivers/block/ps3disk.c Mel Gorman
2007-09-20 13:32 ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-20 13:37 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: Build failures on ppc64_defconfig Satyam Sharma
2007-09-22 6:50 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-22 6:51 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-22 6:54 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-24 11:12 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-22 7:25 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-22 7:40 ` [PATCH -mm] pasemi_mac: Build fix after recent netdev stats changes Satyam Sharma
2007-09-21 2:05 ` [PATCH] Remove broken netfilter binary sysctls from bridging code Joseph Fannin
2007-09-21 4:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-24 16:55 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-24 20:14 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-25 4:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 16:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-25 16:22 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 14:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-25 14:26 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 16:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-22 7:54 ` [PATCH -mm] mv643xx_eth: Remove redundant multiple initialization Satyam Sharma
2007-09-22 7:55 ` [PATCH -mm] iseries_veth: Kill unused variable Satyam Sharma
[not found] ` <20070923014214.GA16766@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-23 1:42 ` [BUG 2.6.23-rc6-mm1] NMI Watchdog detected LOCKUP on CPU 0 Fengguang Wu
2007-09-23 4:22 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20070923053040.GA5820@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-23 5:30 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-23 5:35 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20070923055303.GA14899@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-23 5:53 ` Fengguang Wu
[not found] ` <20070923015217.GA5956@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-23 1:52 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-23 3:01 ` [-mm Patch] net/bluetooth/hidp/core.c: Make hidp_setup_input() return int WANG Cong
2007-09-23 22:13 ` roel
2007-09-24 2:38 ` WANG Cong
2007-09-24 2:50 ` [Resend][-mm " WANG Cong
2007-09-24 7:09 ` [-mm " Marcel Holtmann
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