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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, spamtrap@knobisoft.de
Subject: Re: 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 -- mkfs stuck in 'D'
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:02:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070923150235.284b49bf@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <390510451.02278@ustc.edu.cn>

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:20:49 +0800 Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 03:16:22PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:55:09 +0800 Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > --- linux-2.6.22.orig/mm/page-writeback.c
> > > +++ linux-2.6.22/mm/page-writeback.c
> > > @@ -426,6 +426,14 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
> > >  			bdi_nr_writeback = bdi_stat(bdi, BDI_WRITEBACK);
> > >  		}
> > >  
> > > +		printk(KERN_DEBUG "balance_dirty_pages written %lu %lu congested %d limits %lu %lu %lu %lu %lu %ld\n",
> > > +				pages_written,
> > > +				write_chunk - wbc.nr_to_write,
> > > +				bdi_write_congested(bdi),
> > > +				background_thresh, dirty_thresh,
> > > +				bdi_thresh, bdi_nr_reclaimable, bdi_nr_writeback,
> > > +				bdi_thresh - bdi_nr_reclaimable - bdi_nr_writeback);
> > > +
> > >  		if (bdi_nr_reclaimable + bdi_nr_writeback <= bdi_thresh)
> > >  			break;
> > >  		if (pages_written >= write_chunk)
> > > 
> > 
> > > [ 1305.361511] balance_dirty_pages written 0 0 congested 0 limits 48869 195477 5801 5760 288 -247
> > 
> > <snip long series of mostly identical lines>
> > 
> > Could you perhaps instrument the writeback_inodes() path to see why
> > nothing is written out? - the attached patch would be a nice start.
> 
> Curiously the lockup problem disappeared after upgrading to 2.6.23-rc6-mm1.
> (need to watch it in a longer time window).
> 
> Anyway here's the output of your patch:
>         sb_locked 0
>         sb_empty 97011

It this the delta during one of these lockups? If so, it would seem
that although dirty pages are reported against the BDI, no actual dirty
inodes could be found.

[ note to self: writeback_inodes() seems to write out to any superblock
  in the system. Might want to limit that to superblocks on wbc->bdi ]

You say that switching to .23-rc6-mm1 solved it in your case. You are
developing in the writeback_inodes() path, right? Could it be one of
your local changes that confused it here?

> > Most peculiar. It seems writeback_inodes() doesn't even attempt to
> > write out stuff. Nor are outstanding writeback pages completed.
> 
> Still true. Another problem is that balance_dirty_pages() is being called even
> when there are only 54 dirty pages. That could slow down writers unnecessarily.
> 
> balance_dirty_pages() should not be entered at all with small nr_dirty.
> 
> Look at these lines:
> [  197.471619] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 405 congested 0 global 196554 54 403 196097 bdi 0 0 398 -398
> [  197.472196] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196554 54 372 196128 bdi 0 0 380 -380
> [  197.472893] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196554 54 372 196128 bdi 23 0 369 -346
> [  197.473158] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196554 54 372 196128 bdi 23 0 366 -343
> [  197.473403] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196554 54 372 196128 bdi 23 0 365 -342
> [  197.473674] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196554 54 372 196128 bdi 23 0 364 -341
> [  197.474265] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196554 54 372 196128 bdi 23 0 362 -339
> [  197.475440] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196554 54 341 196159 bdi 47 0 327 -280
> [  197.476970] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196546 54 279 196213 bdi 95 0 279 -184
> [  197.477773] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196546 54 248 196244 bdi 95 0 255 -160
> [  197.479463] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196546 54 217 196275 bdi 143 0 210 -67
> [  197.479656] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196546 54 217 196275 bdi 143 0 209 -66
> [  197.481159] balance_dirty_pages for tar written 405 0 congested 0 global 196546 54 155 196337 bdi 167 0 163 4

That is an interesting idea how about this:

---
Subject: mm: speed up writeback ramp-up on clean systems

We allow violation of bdi limits if there is a lot of room on the
system. Once we hit half the total limit we start enforcing bdi limits
and bdi ramp-up should happen. Doing it this way avoids many small
writeouts on an otherwise idle system and should also speed up the
ramp-up.

Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
---

Index: linux-2.6/mm/page-writeback.c
===================================================================
--- linux-2.6.orig/mm/page-writeback.c
+++ linux-2.6/mm/page-writeback.c
@@ -355,8 +355,8 @@ get_dirty_limits(long *pbackground, long
  */
 static void balance_dirty_pages(struct address_space *mapping)
 {
-	long bdi_nr_reclaimable;
-	long bdi_nr_writeback;
+	long nr_reclaimable, bdi_nr_reclaimable;
+	long nr_writeback, bdi_nr_writeback;
 	long background_thresh;
 	long dirty_thresh;
 	long bdi_thresh;
@@ -376,9 +376,24 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
 
 		get_dirty_limits(&background_thresh, &dirty_thresh,
 				&bdi_thresh, bdi);
+
+		nr_reclaimable = global_page_state(NR_FILE_DIRTY) +
+					global_page_state(NR_UNSTABLE_NFS);
+		nr_writeback = global_page_state(NR_WRITEBACK);
+
 		bdi_nr_reclaimable = bdi_stat(bdi, BDI_RECLAIMABLE);
 		bdi_nr_writeback = bdi_stat(bdi, BDI_WRITEBACK);
-		if (bdi_nr_reclaimable + bdi_nr_writeback <= bdi_thresh)
+
+		/*
+		 * break out early when:
+		 *  - we're below the bdi limit
+		 *  - we're below half the total limit
+		 *
+		 * we let the numbers exceed the strict bdi limit if the total
+		 * numbers are too low, this avoids (excessive) small writeouts.
+		 */
+		if (bdi_nr_reclaimable + bdi_nr_writeback <= bdi_thresh ||
+		    nr_reclaimable + nr_writeback < dirty_thresh / 2)
 			break;
 
 		if (!bdi->dirty_exceeded)

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-23 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 227+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-18  8:18 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-18  8:24 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-18  9:13 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Kamalesh Babulal
2007-09-18  9:27   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-18  9:34     ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Satyam Sharma
2007-09-18 19:17       ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Greg KH
2007-09-22  9:21         ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Satyam Sharma
2007-09-25  5:35           ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Greg KH
2007-09-18  9:34   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-18 10:02     ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-09-18 12:07       ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Kamalesh Babulal
2007-09-18 16:53         ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 19:16         ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Greg KH
2007-09-18 21:35           ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-09-18 15:07 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-18 15:50   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 15:27 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Miles Lane
2007-09-18 15:39   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Miles Lane
2007-09-18 15:52   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 19:17   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 19:42     ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Miles Lane
2007-09-18 20:26       ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 22:38         ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Gabriel C
2007-09-18 22:48           ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Gabriel C
2007-09-19 19:33             ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-19 20:36               ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Gabriel C
2007-09-19 20:43                 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-19 18:48           ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 15:43 ` modpost errors ( Re: 2.6.23-rc6-mm1) Gabriel C
2007-09-18 15:56   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 16:37     ` [v4l-dvb-maintainer] " mkrufky
2007-09-18 22:06       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-18 16:20 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: Build failure on ppc64 drivers/net/ehea/ehea_main.c Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 16:41   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 19:08   ` David Miller
2007-09-18 17:18 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 (watchdog) Randy Dunlap
2007-09-18 17:41   ` Randy Dunlap
2007-09-18 17:20 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Miles Lane
2007-09-18 18:05   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 17:44 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Mel Gorman
2007-09-19 16:29   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: kgdb support on ppc64 utterly broken Mel Gorman
2007-09-22  8:41   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Satyam Sharma
2007-09-24 11:14     ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 19:32 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 - Mostly working, with a kbuild oddity Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-18 20:32   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 22:03     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-19  7:34       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-19 15:53         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-19 17:39           ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-18 20:21 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: failure to boot on HP nx6325 Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-18 20:54   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-18 21:37     ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: failure to boot on HP nx6325, no sound when booted, USB-related WARNING Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-19  7:06       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-19 17:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-19 19:21           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20  0:06             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20  6:18               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 13:29                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 13:43                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 14:12                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 13:53                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 14:47                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 14:50                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 15:49                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 20:39                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 21:08                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 21:35                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-20 21:54                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 22:01                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 21:55                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-20 22:05                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 22:30                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 12:59                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-21 14:20                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 16:27                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-21 19:20                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 19:16                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-21 19:37                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 23:35                                       ` Len Brown
2007-09-21  7:56                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-21  9:25                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21  4:51                                       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-09-21  8:06                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-10-11 21:19                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-20 21:45                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 21:53                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-20 22:35                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21  9:24                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-20 20:42                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-18 20:54 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 sparc build error Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-18 21:05   ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-20 12:53     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-09-21 13:51       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-18 21:45 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: atomic counter underflow Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-09-19  8:27   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-09-19 16:43     ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-09-19 18:02       ` Cornelia Huck
2007-09-20  7:42         ` kobject: Temporarily save k_name on cleanup for debug message Cornelia Huck
2007-09-20  7:43         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-09-20 17:26           ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-09-20 13:35         ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: atomic counter underflow Cornelia Huck
2007-09-20 16:30           ` Pierre Ossman
2007-09-20 17:27           ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-09-19  9:28 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 -- powerpc link failure Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-19 16:36   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-19 16:52     ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-19 17:44   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-25 13:40     ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-19  9:36 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 -- powerpc pSeries_log_error panic in rtas_call/early_enable_eeh Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-19 11:43 ` X-freeze after clflush changes [Was: 2.6.23-rc6-mm1] Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 11:53   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 14:59     ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 19:10       ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-19 19:24         ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-19 19:46           ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 19:54             ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-19 19:57               ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 20:01                 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 21:42                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-19 20:32                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-19 20:47                   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-20 13:17                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-20 22:24                       ` Dave Airlie
2007-09-20  1:51                 ` Dave Airlie
2007-09-20  7:24                   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-20  7:33                     ` Dave Airlie
2007-09-20  9:24                       ` Zhenyu Wang
2007-09-20 22:10                         ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-21  1:27                           ` Zhenyu Wang
2007-09-20  0:18           ` Dave Airlie
2007-09-20  1:42           ` Dave Airlie
2007-09-20  2:24             ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-20  7:19               ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-20 22:06             ` Matt Mackall
2007-09-20 23:03               ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-20 23:31                 ` Matt Mackall
2007-09-20 23:44                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-21 17:18                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-21  7:07                   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-21 17:16               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-21 17:30                 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-21 17:54                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-21 19:33                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-21 19:38                     ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-21 19:43                       ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-24  3:25                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-24  6:06                           ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-24  7:37                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-24  8:10                               ` Jiri Slaby
2007-09-19 16:43 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 -- mkfs stuck in 'D' Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-19 20:03   ` Hugh Dickins
2007-09-19 20:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-20 11:31       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-09-20 12:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]         ` <20070922015509.GA5332@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-22  1:55           ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-22 13:16             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]               ` <20070923012049.GA6010@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-23  1:20                 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-23 13:02                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <20070924030109.GA5892@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-24  3:01                       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-24  7:35                         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                           ` <20070924081207.GA2266@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-24  8:12                             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-23 14:19             ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 -- ipg.c don't compile on i386 with CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G trem
2007-09-19 23:02 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Tilman Schmidt
2007-09-19 23:24   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-19 23:28     ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Chuck Ebbert
2007-09-19 23:55       ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Tilman Schmidt
2007-09-20 19:10         ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Tilman Schmidt
2007-09-19 23:44     ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 David Brownell
2007-09-20  0:06       ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-20  4:43         ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 David Brownell
2007-09-20  6:11           ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-20  7:54             ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Kay Sievers
2007-09-20 16:15               ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 David Brownell
2007-09-20  8:51             ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Alessandro Zummo
2007-09-20 17:36             ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 David Brownell
2007-09-20 19:20   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Tilman Schmidt
2007-09-20 20:25     ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-21  0:53       ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Tilman Schmidt
2007-09-19 23:58 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Joseph Fannin
2007-09-20  0:09   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <f86d6cc00709200721h6e8f7cf8xa2264e9d1f88883b@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <f86d6cc00709200912j37a3218boa882a044c0610779@mail.gmail.com>
2007-09-20 19:44         ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-09-21  2:04         ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 Joseph Fannin
2007-09-21  2:04         ` [PATCH] make mv643xx_eth.c build again Joseph Fannin
2007-09-20  8:41 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 - make access to tasks nsproxy ligther (fix) Cedric Le Goater
2007-09-20  8:59   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-20  9:12     ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-09-20 17:08       ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-09-24  4:00         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-09-20 13:13 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: Build failure on ppc64 drivers/ata/pata_scc.c Mel Gorman
2007-09-20 14:09   ` Alan Cox
2007-09-20 15:14     ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-20 15:45     ` Kamalesh Babulal
2007-09-22  2:50     ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-24 11:01       ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-26  3:39       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-20 13:25 ` Build failure on ppc64 drivers/block/ps3disk.c Mel Gorman
2007-09-20 13:32   ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-20 13:37   ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: Build failures on ppc64_defconfig Satyam Sharma
2007-09-22  6:50     ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-22  6:51     ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-22  6:54     ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-24 11:12       ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-22  7:25     ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-22  7:40     ` [PATCH -mm] pasemi_mac: Build fix after recent netdev stats changes Satyam Sharma
2007-09-21  2:05 ` [PATCH] Remove broken netfilter binary sysctls from bridging code Joseph Fannin
2007-09-21  4:21   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-24 16:55     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-24 20:14       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-25  4:07         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 16:12           ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-25 16:22             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 14:03       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-25 14:26         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 16:38           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-22  7:54 ` [PATCH -mm] mv643xx_eth: Remove redundant multiple initialization Satyam Sharma
2007-09-22  7:55 ` [PATCH -mm] iseries_veth: Kill unused variable Satyam Sharma
     [not found] ` <20070923014214.GA16766@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-23  1:42   ` [BUG 2.6.23-rc6-mm1] NMI Watchdog detected LOCKUP on CPU 0 Fengguang Wu
2007-09-23  4:22     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20070923053040.GA5820@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-23  5:30         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-23  5:35           ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]             ` <20070923055303.GA14899@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-23  5:53               ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]   ` <20070923015217.GA5956@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-23  1:52     ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-23  3:01 ` [-mm Patch] net/bluetooth/hidp/core.c: Make hidp_setup_input() return int WANG Cong
2007-09-23 22:13   ` roel
2007-09-24  2:38     ` WANG Cong
2007-09-24  2:50     ` [Resend][-mm " WANG Cong
2007-09-24  7:09     ` [-mm " Marcel Holtmann

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