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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:54:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071221225413.GA26189@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0712211422540.3795@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>


* Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > BTW, does /proc/slabinfo exist again? I thought we set that as a 
> > requirement for SLUB to be the default and a full replacement for 
> > SLAB.
> 
> Well the information that would be exposed in /proc/slabinfo would 
> only be faked up stuff from SLUB. The queues that are described in 
> /proc/slabinfo do not exist f.e. (tunables do not make sense) and 
> there are more details available via /sys/kernel/slab.

Christoph, /proc/slabinfo is an _ABI_. You HAVE to provide it. slabtop 
relies on it, people use it every day to monitor memory consumption.

I'm really getting worried that you are apparently incapable of grasping 
such _SIMPLE_ concepts. Who the heck cares whether you put in zeros or 
whatever else in some of the fields? People use it to know how many 
objects are allocated and sure SLUB knows that count, sheesh. How on 
earth can you come up with a lame excuse like that? You dont like the 
'SLAB' portion of the name perhaps? Is it NIH again?

Really, if your behavior is representative of how our SLAB allocator 
will be maintained in the future then i'm very, very worried :-( You 
ignore and downplay clear-cut regressions, you insult and attack 
testers, you are incredibly stupid about user ABIs (or pretend to be so) 
and you distort and mislead all the way. What will you be able to do in 
the much less clear-cut cases??

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-21 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-07 17:50 Major regression on hackbench with SLUB Steven Rostedt
2007-12-07 17:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07 18:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07 18:58     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-08 22:16     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-10  7:38       ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-12-10 14:00         ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-09  0:28     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-13 22:11     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-11 14:33 ` Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers) Ingo Molnar
2007-12-13 22:22   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-14  4:24     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-14  6:15       ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-21 12:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 12:26         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 16:26           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 16:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 21:56               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 16:18         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 16:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-21 22:11             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-21 22:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-21 22:27                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:54                     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-12-21 23:20                       ` David Miller
2007-12-22  9:45                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-24 19:24                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 23:27                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-21 23:51                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-22  0:28                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22  0:33                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-12-22  2:19                         ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-22  2:44                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 10:03                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-22 12:37                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 12:51                             ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-22 12:54                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 13:27                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-22 13:01                             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-12-22 18:01                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-22 19:09                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-22 19:29                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-22 22:52                               ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2007-12-24  3:59                                 ` Alessandro Suardi
2007-12-22 19:25                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-22 21:00                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-22 21:50                                 ` Al Viro
2007-12-22 23:29                                   ` Al Viro
2007-12-22 22:10                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-23  0:59                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-23  5:12                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-23 14:15                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-24  3:45                                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-24 19:21                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-24 23:37                                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-25  3:34                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-01 12:47                                                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-01 15:19                                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-01 16:23                                                   ` [patch] slub: provide /proc/slabinfo Ingo Molnar
2008-01-05  0:27                                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-05  0:49                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-26 21:31                                               ` Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers) Christoph Lameter
2007-12-26 22:16                                                 ` Al Viro
2007-12-27  5:51                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 20:28                                                     ` SLUB sysfs support Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 22:59                                                       ` Al Viro
2007-12-27 23:22                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 23:53                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 23:58                                                             ` Al Viro
2007-12-28  0:02                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-28  0:45                                                                 ` Al Viro
2007-12-28  2:19                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-28  3:26                                                                     ` Al Viro
2008-01-02 20:25                                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 23:54                                                           ` Al Viro
2007-12-28  9:00                                                   ` Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers) Ingo Molnar
2007-12-28 14:52                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-22 19:46                             ` slabtop replacement was " Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 23:28                               ` Karol Swietlicki
2007-12-29 18:08                                 ` Karol Swietlicki
2007-12-21 22:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-21 17:44         ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-21 22:22           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:37             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-21 23:17                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 23:40                   ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-21 23:54                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-22  0:02                     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-12-21 22:52               ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-21 22:56               ` Ingo Molnar

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