From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>, Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] USB Kconfig: Select SCSI for USB Mass Storage support
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 14:05:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080106120527.GC2082@does.not.exist> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4780C15C.2000904@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 12:54:04PM +0100, Stefan Richter wrote:
> Randy Dunlap wrote:
> > Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> >> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:03:30PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >>> For kconfig users, "select" is _much_ better than sending them
> >>> through different menus.
> >> Only if used within the current limitations of Kconfig.
> >> And that requires you to use select only to select symbols with
> >> no dependencies.
> >
> > Right. One of the main (or maybe even the only) problem(s) is
> > that select does not follow dependency chains.
> > and that no one works on that problem.
> >
> >> In this case we do not know if BLOCK is enabled or not.
> >
> > For Aunt Tillie cases, "select" makes sense. For other cases,
> > I'd argue that it makes sense for config users to know when they
> > do something that causes an entire subsystem to be added to their
> > kernel (like SCSI or NET).
>
> Besides the issue of additional potentially unsatisfied dependencies and
> the issue of things being enabled behind the user's back --- there is
> another issue which Adrian and Al ignore:
>
> The user who wants to enable usb-storage /has/ to go into the SCSI menu
> anyway to answer whether he needs sd, sr, st, sg, command logging...
That's a different UI problem that has to be fixed.
The "SCSI support type" menu has to move out of the SCSI menu.
> Stefan Richter
cu
Adrian
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-05 15:41 [PATCH 2/5] USB Kconfig: Select SCSI for USB Mass Storage support Al Boldi
2008-01-05 18:42 ` David Brownell
2008-01-05 19:30 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-01-05 21:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-05 21:09 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-05 23:22 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-01-05 23:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 0:35 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 0:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 11:29 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 11:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 12:32 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 12:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 13:23 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 12:18 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 12:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 13:13 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 13:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 13:55 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-06 13:57 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 14:45 ` david
2008-01-06 13:41 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 15:05 ` david
2008-01-06 14:08 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 17:11 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 18:07 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 1:01 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-01-06 11:54 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 12:05 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2008-01-06 12:41 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 5:03 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-06 14:39 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 17:07 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-06 17:50 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 18:01 ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 18:23 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-05 20:40 ` Stefan Richter
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