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From: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] USB Kconfig: Select SCSI for USB Mass Storage	support
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:01:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47802879.3080005@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47802249.9010107@s5r6.in-berlin.de>

Stefan Richter wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>> Whether or not an option requires an additional subsystem like e.g. SCSI 
>> or SSB are hardware and implementation details we shouldn't bother 
>> kconfig users with.
> 
> What is an implementation detail and what is not?  In the end,
> everything that we configure in Kconfig is implementation details.
> 
> PS:
> Kill 'select' already, and instead work on better UIs if you have got
> trouble with the complexities of the dependencies graph.  The graphic
> UIs including menuconfig currently work best for tree-like dependencies,
> but the graph isn't a tree.  Think about how to present this properly in
> an UI.  The Kconfig files are the wrong place to attack this problem.
> 
> PPS:
> Really, it's *not* hard *at all* to configure a 2.6.24-rc6 kernel with
> USB storage support.  I don't read linux-usb --- has there been repeated
> questions how to enable usb-storage in the kernel configuration?  I can

I do read linux-usb.  I don't think that USB storage configuration
is a big issue (currently, without using "select").
But that's just my take on it.

> tell you that there has been no such question about sbp2 (FireWire
> storage support) in years.  Don't fix what ain't broken.  In fact, don't
> /break/ what ain't broken by adding more of the (as yet) broken 'select'
> everywhere.


-- 
~Randy
desserts:  http://www.xenotime.net/linux/recipes/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-06  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-05 15:41 [PATCH 2/5] USB Kconfig: Select SCSI for USB Mass Storage support Al Boldi
2008-01-05 18:42 ` David Brownell
2008-01-05 19:30 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-01-05 21:03   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-05 21:09     ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-05 23:22       ` Randy Dunlap
2008-01-05 23:45         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06  0:35           ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06  0:58             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 11:29               ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 11:59                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 12:32                   ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 12:58                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 13:23                       ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 12:18               ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 12:37                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 13:13                   ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 13:38                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 13:55                       ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-06 13:57                       ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 14:45                     ` david
2008-01-06 13:41                       ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 15:05                         ` david
2008-01-06 14:08                           ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 17:11                           ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 18:07                             ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06  1:01             ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2008-01-06 11:54         ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 12:05           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-06 12:41             ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06  5:03       ` Al Boldi
2008-01-06 14:39         ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 17:07           ` Al Boldi
2008-01-06 17:50             ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 18:01               ` Stefan Richter
2008-01-06 18:23               ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-05 20:40 ` Stefan Richter

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