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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: echo mem > /sys/power/state
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:26:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801181526.16967.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080118121803.GF11044@elte.hu>

On Friday, 18 of January 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > > (it doesnt matter if graphics does not resume fine - at least for my 
> > > tests)
> > > 
> > > kprobes had similar problems and it now has a few simple smoke-tests 
> > > - which i just saw trigger on a patch that i did not notice would 
> > > break kprobes. I think this should be done for all functionality 
> > > that is not regularly triggered by a normal distro bootup (and which 
> > > is easy to overlook in testing).
> > 
> > Seeing as we're so lame about being able to distribute userspace 
> > stuff: create a shell script in /proc/rc.kernel and start teaching 
> > initscripts to run it.  Then we can modify it at will.
> 
> would be fine to me.

Yes, that might work.

> The problem isnt just distribution and the tests
> getting out of sync with the kernel (and its capabilities enabled in the 
> .config, etc.), the other problem is unintrusive testing: i for example 
> use unmodified images of various distributions, with only a new bzImage 
> plopped in. That is an intentionally minimal impact test vector, any 
> userspace side changes are discouraged. And that's how many people test 
> new kernels, they just plop it in. The moment we require any userlevel 
> changes, the testing barrier increases significantly.

Very true.

Greetings,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-18 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-17  6:24 echo mem > /sys/power/state Andrew Morton
2008-01-17 17:36 ` Zan Lynx
2008-01-17 19:13   ` Andrew Morton
2008-01-17 21:38     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-17 21:45       ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-17 22:27         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-18  8:36       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-18  8:47         ` Andrew Morton
2008-01-18  9:04           ` Harvey Harrison
2008-01-18 12:18           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-18 14:26             ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-01-20 23:39             ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-20 23:42               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-21  0:31                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-21  2:13                   ` Johannes Weiner
2008-01-21 22:37                     ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-22 14:42                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-23 21:27                         ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-17 21:48     ` Jiri Slaby
2008-01-18  8:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-17 18:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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