From: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:04:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080212170422.GE3051@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47B1C9F4.30402@garzik.org>
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 11:31:48AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> David Miller wrote:
>> I rebase my tree all the time, at least once or twice per
>> week. Why?
<snip>
> FWIW, that is annoying and painful for us downstream jobbers, since it
> isn't really how git was meant to be used. You use it more like a patch
> queue, where commits are very fluid.
<snip>
> I understand the desire to want a nice and clean history, but the frequency
> here really has a negative impact on your downstreams.
FWIW, I definitely have a (vocal minority) group of contributors
who resent all the rebasing. There may be a few cases of 'vanity'
represented here, but there are definitely reasonable complaints about
not being able to do simple pulls to stay up-to-date and/or having
to rebase before they can send patches to me. FWIW, I think it might
save a bit of my time as well, although I have become pretty good and
"riding the tide" of rebasing... :-(
Unfortunately, I don't have any good suggestions to remedy the issue.
One strategy might be a third layer of trees, e.g.:
net-2.6 fixes for the current release
net-2.6.26 updates certain to go to the next release
net-2.6.26-maybe updates that might not make it to the next release
Of course, managing what goes moves-up from -maybe is probably a big
headache, and just sucks-up more of Dave's time. And, of course,
virtually no one will run the -maybe tree...
Just my $0.02...
John
--
John W. Linville
linville@tuxdriver.com
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2008-02-12 1:02 Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-)) Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-12 1:36 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 2:23 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-12 3:32 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 2:25 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-13 12:53 ` Frank Seidel
2008-02-19 0:45 ` Frank Seidel
2008-02-13 20:24 ` Ann Davis
2008-02-13 20:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-12 4:21 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 4:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-12 4:43 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 5:17 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-12 5:53 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 6:07 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 16:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 17:04 ` John W. Linville [this message]
2008-02-12 18:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-13 0:12 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 19:37 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-12 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 0:50 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 1:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:38 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 1:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 2:06 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-13 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 2:20 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 2:47 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-13 15:06 ` John W. Linville
2008-02-13 16:45 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-13 4:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-13 5:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 17:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-14 17:35 ` Benny Halevy
2008-02-15 17:15 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-12 23:51 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 23:54 ` Al Viro
2008-02-13 0:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-13 0:48 ` Al Viro
2008-02-13 0:56 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-13 0:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:25 ` Al Viro
2008-02-12 15:07 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 15:32 ` Benny Halevy
2008-02-12 16:00 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 6:11 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 6:21 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-02-12 16:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 16:46 ` Benny Halevy
2008-02-12 17:03 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 17:38 ` Roland Dreier
2008-02-12 17:41 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 17:53 ` Benny Halevy
2008-02-12 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 19:25 ` Benny Halevy
2008-02-12 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 18:24 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 18:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 19:19 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 10:05 ` Russell King
2008-02-13 12:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-13 12:19 ` Russell King
2008-02-12 19:41 ` Al Viro
2008-02-12 21:51 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-12 22:17 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12 22:20 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-12 22:41 ` Al Viro
2008-02-12 23:01 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-12 23:27 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 22:55 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 22:59 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-12 23:26 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 10:07 ` Russell King
2008-02-13 0:36 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 0:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:25 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 19:17 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 0:33 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 20:18 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-02-12 21:00 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 0:27 ` David Miller
2008-02-17 12:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-02-12 17:48 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 19:15 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 19:46 ` Al Viro
2008-02-12 20:50 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 21:08 ` Al Viro
2008-02-12 21:20 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 10:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-13 17:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-12 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 20:48 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 21:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-12 23:49 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-15 23:23 ` Russell King
2008-02-15 23:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-15 23:47 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-02-16 0:12 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-16 0:17 ` Russell King
2008-02-16 0:25 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-02-13 17:12 ` Roel Kluin
2008-02-13 18:08 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-15 23:05 ` Roel Kluin
2008-02-16 0:03 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-13 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-15 22:59 ` Roel Kluin
2008-02-13 0:41 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 0:47 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-13 1:23 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 7:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-02-13 8:45 ` distributed module configuration [Was: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))] Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-13 8:54 ` distributed module configuration David Miller
2008-02-13 9:04 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-13 9:06 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 10:09 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2008-02-17 15:51 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-14 0:56 ` distributed module configuration [Was: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))] Roman Zippel
2008-02-14 8:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-02-14 22:38 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-13 0:31 ` Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-)) David Miller
2008-02-12 18:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 20:03 ` Russell King
2008-02-12 20:23 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12 20:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 17:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-12 23:58 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 0:29 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 0:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:24 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 2:16 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-13 10:58 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-02-13 6:16 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 7:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-02-16 11:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-02-13 10:36 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-13 17:55 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 10:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-02-13 0:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-13 1:16 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 1:46 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-13 0:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:20 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 1:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:46 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 2:25 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 2:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 3:00 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 3:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 3:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 5:17 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-02-13 4:10 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 5:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-02-13 4:19 ` Paul Mundt
2008-02-13 4:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-12 4:45 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-12 5:11 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-12 6:02 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 7:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-12 22:44 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-12 6:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12 11:57 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-12 14:57 ` Greg KH
2008-02-14 8:14 ` Russell King
2008-02-14 12:22 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-14 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-14 18:32 ` Gene Heskett
2008-02-14 20:32 ` Greg KH
2008-02-14 20:39 ` Gene Heskett
2008-02-15 6:44 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-02-15 6:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-02-15 9:26 ` Gene Heskett
2008-02-15 14:52 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-02-15 1:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-20 14:55 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-20 15:38 ` Stefan Richter
2008-02-20 15:42 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-20 17:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-21 13:22 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-12 5:07 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-12 5:56 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 6:10 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-12 16:24 ` multiple drivers, single device (was Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))) Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 16:42 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 17:42 ` multiple drivers, single device Roland Dreier
2008-02-12 17:51 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 18:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 17:56 ` multiple drivers, single device (was Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))) Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 18:10 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 18:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 21:38 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 22:34 ` Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-)) Jan Engelhardt
2008-02-12 18:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-13 1:20 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-02-13 5:03 ` Kumar Gala
2008-02-14 23:22 ` Roland Dreier
2008-02-15 1:02 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-16 15:14 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-17 5:25 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-17 14:27 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-16 0:09 ` Russell King
2008-02-16 0:21 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-16 0:31 ` Russell King
2008-02-16 0:45 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-16 0:42 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-02-16 8:08 ` Russell King
2008-02-26 3:54 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-29 12:45 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-29 13:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-29 23:45 ` Stephen Rothwell
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