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* [RFD] Format for the new stable events ABI
@ 2010-11-11 18:06 Steven Rostedt
  2010-11-11 20:35 ` Jason Baron
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2010-11-11 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: LKML
  Cc: Linus Torvalds, Ingo Molnar, Andrew Morton, Thomas Gleixner,
	Frederic Weisbecker, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, Mathieu Desnoyers,
	Peter Zijlstra, Arjan van de Ven

At kernel summit, we talked about coming up with stable events. The
current events which reside in the debugfs directory and are used by
both ftrace and perf have some issues.

1) the format was specific to ftrace, and needs to be changed to be more
generic.

2) there are hundreds of events that can be added by all developers and
the events can come and go freely and change without notice. This makes
tools like powerchart break when a tracepoint they rely on changes.

3) They reside in debugfs, which is really meant for debugging and not
for tools. Moving them to /sys would be appropriate.

I would like to move all stable events into

/sys/kernel/events

Keeping a hierarchy, like sched, irqs, etc. Perhaps even allowing
multiple layer hierarchy.

Here are a few requirements:

1) As Linus stated, absolutely no modules can declare a stable trace
point. The code to add a trace point here will not be exported to
modules.

2) The trace point must state a purpose. Not just describe some random
internal description.

3) Must describe something that is general and can been seen as being
with the kernel forever.

The possible stable tracepoints that come to mind are:

sched_switch
sched_migrate
irq_enter
irq_exit

We would also like the power tracepoints, but those need to be pulled
out of arch specific code and made generic for all archs to use. 

All other tracepoints will still exist, and I would even expect that the
stable tracepoints will hook on top of the other tracepoints.

There will be two types of tracepoints:

1) stable tracepoints - exist in /sys/kernel/events

2) in field debugging tracepoints - what we currently have. I suggest
that we can move them into /sys/kernel/debugfs/events, and change the
format from what is currently in /sys/kernel/debugfs/tracing/events. For
drivers, we could also add them into /sys/drivers/... as well.

As stated above, I foresee stable tracepoints sitting on top of other
tracepoints. Of course, the other tracepoints may change, but the fields
that are used by the stable tracepoints will remain constant, or code
that connects the debugging tracepoint to the stable tracepoint is
changed to keep the output to user the same.

For example: lets look at sched_switch:

TRACE_EVENT(sched_switch,

	TP_PROTO(struct task_struct *prev,
		 struct task_struct *next),

	TP_ARGS(prev, next),

	TP_STRUCT__entry(
		__array(	char,	prev_comm,	TASK_COMM_LEN	)
		__field(	pid_t,	prev_pid			)
		__field(	int,	prev_prio			)
		__field(	long,	prev_state			)
		__array(	char,	next_comm,	TASK_COMM_LEN	)
		__field(	pid_t,	next_pid			)
		__field(	int,	next_prio			)
	),

	TP_fast_assign(
		memcpy(__entry->next_comm, next->comm, TASK_COMM_LEN);
		__entry->prev_pid	= prev->pid;
		__entry->prev_prio	= prev->prio;
		__entry->prev_state	= __trace_sched_switch_state(prev);
		memcpy(__entry->prev_comm, prev->comm, TASK_COMM_LEN);
		__entry->next_pid	= next->pid;
		__entry->next_prio	= next->prio;
	),

	TP_printk("prev_comm=%s prev_pid=%d prev_prio=%d prev_state=%s ==> next_comm=%s next_pid=%d next_prio=%d",
		__entry->prev_comm, __entry->prev_pid, __entry->prev_prio,
		__entry->prev_state ?
		  __print_flags(__entry->prev_state, "|",
				{ 1, "S"} , { 2, "D" }, { 4, "T" }, { 8, "t" },
				{ 16, "Z" }, { 32, "X" }, { 64, "x" },
				{ 128, "W" }) : "R",
		__entry->next_comm, __entry->next_pid, __entry->next_prio)
);


As Peter Zijlstra has pointed out, prio and state (as a number) may be
deprecated if SCHED_DEADLINE gets in. We can keep this tracepoint as is,
but create a new stable event that taps into the trace_sched_switch()
and extracts only the stable fields. Something like:


	TP_fast_assign(
		memcpy(__entry->next_comm, next->comm, TASK_COMM_LEN);
		__entry->prev_pid	= prev->pid;
		__entry->prev_state	= __sched_state(prev->state);
		memcpy(__entry->prev_comm, prev->comm, TASK_COMM_LEN);
		__entry->next_pid	= next->pid;
	),


The __sched_state() would return a character that matches what is
retrieved by ps now, instead of returning a number.

Also, I would suggest removing the __entry trick, and have:

	__assign(prev_pid, prev->pid);

This would allow us to be more flexible in how we write the field into
the buffering system.

Now about format: The format in /debug/tracing/events/... looks like:

name: sched_switch
ID: 57
format:
	field:unsigned short common_type;	offset:0;	size:2;	signed:0;
	field:unsigned char common_flags;	offset:2;	size:1;	signed:0;
	field:unsigned char common_preempt_count;	offset:3;	size:1;	signed:0;
	field:int common_pid;	offset:4;	size:4;	signed:1;
	field:int common_lock_depth;	offset:8;	size:4;	signed:1;

	field:char prev_comm[TASK_COMM_LEN];	offset:12;	size:16;	signed:1;
	field:pid_t prev_pid;	offset:28;	size:4;	signed:1;
	field:int prev_prio;	offset:32;	size:4;	signed:1;
	field:long prev_state;	offset:40;	size:8;	signed:1;
	field:char next_comm[TASK_COMM_LEN];	offset:48;	size:16;	signed:1;
	field:pid_t next_pid;	offset:64;	size:4;	signed:1;
	field:int next_prio;	offset:68;	size:4;	signed:1;

print fmt: "prev_comm=%s prev_pid=%d prev_prio=%d prev_state=%s ==> next_comm=%s next_pid=%d next_prio=%d", REC->prev_comm, REC->prev_pid, REC->prev_prio, REC->prev_state ? __print_flags(REC->prev_state, "|", { 1, "S"} , { 2, "D" }, { 4, "T" }, { 8, "t" }, { 16, "Z" }, { 32, "X" }, { 64, "x" }, { 128, "W" }) : "R", REC->next_comm, REC->next_pid, REC->next_prio


The name is redundant. The ID should be specified by the tracer and not
the event. The print fmt should go. The offset and size is in bytes, and
I would suggest that we convert that to bits. This would let us compact
the data better. I would also suggest removing the offset and instead
specify an alignment:


	array:char prev_comm;	align:8;	size:8;	count:16;	signed:1;
	field:pid_t prev_pid;	align:8;	size:32;	signed:1;
	field:char prev_state;	align:8;	size:8;	signed:1;
	array:char next_comm;	align:8;	size:8;	count:16;	signed:1;
	field:pid_t next_pid;	align:8;	size:32;	signed:1;

Note, I removed the [] from prev_comm and next_comm and created an array
instead. The size is per item in the array, and a count field is added
to specify the number of items in that array.

As for dynamic arrays we can have:

	dynamic:char name;	align:8;	size:8;	signed:1;

Where the alignment, size of each item, and signed is specified. The
size of the array is know to be dynamic. We can discuss how this gets
recorded into the buffer as well. The way ftrace and perf currently do
it is to add a 32 bit word into that field. The first two bytes of that
word specify the offset into the event data where the array exists, and
the second 2 bytes is the array size.

Thoughts?

-- Steve



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* Re: [RFD] Format for the new stable events ABI
  2010-11-11 18:06 [RFD] Format for the new stable events ABI Steven Rostedt
@ 2010-11-11 20:35 ` Jason Baron
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Jason Baron @ 2010-11-11 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steven Rostedt
  Cc: LKML, Linus Torvalds, Ingo Molnar, Andrew Morton,
	Thomas Gleixner, Frederic Weisbecker, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo,
	Mathieu Desnoyers, Peter Zijlstra, Arjan van de Ven

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 01:06:08PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> At kernel summit, we talked about coming up with stable events. The
> current events which reside in the debugfs directory and are used by
> both ftrace and perf have some issues.
> 
> 1) the format was specific to ftrace, and needs to be changed to be more
> generic.
> 
> 2) there are hundreds of events that can be added by all developers and
> the events can come and go freely and change without notice. This makes
> tools like powerchart break when a tracepoint they rely on changes.
> 
> 3) They reside in debugfs, which is really meant for debugging and not
> for tools. Moving them to /sys would be appropriate.
> 
> I would like to move all stable events into
> 
> /sys/kernel/events
> 
> Keeping a hierarchy, like sched, irqs, etc. Perhaps even allowing
> multiple layer hierarchy.
> 
> Here are a few requirements:
> 
> 1) As Linus stated, absolutely no modules can declare a stable trace
> point. The code to add a trace point here will not be exported to
> modules.
> 
> 2) The trace point must state a purpose. Not just describe some random
> internal description.
> 
> 3) Must describe something that is general and can been seen as being
> with the kernel forever.
> 
> The possible stable tracepoints that come to mind are:
> 
> sched_switch
> sched_migrate
> irq_enter
> irq_exit
> 
> We would also like the power tracepoints, but those need to be pulled
> out of arch specific code and made generic for all archs to use. 
> 
> All other tracepoints will still exist, and I would even expect that the
> stable tracepoints will hook on top of the other tracepoints.
> 
> There will be two types of tracepoints:
> 
> 1) stable tracepoints - exist in /sys/kernel/events
> 
> 2) in field debugging tracepoints - what we currently have. I suggest
> that we can move them into /sys/kernel/debugfs/events, and change the
> format from what is currently in /sys/kernel/debugfs/tracing/events. For
> drivers, we could also add them into /sys/drivers/... as well.
> 
> As stated above, I foresee stable tracepoints sitting on top of other
> tracepoints. Of course, the other tracepoints may change, but the fields
> that are used by the stable tracepoints will remain constant, or code
> that connects the debugging tracepoint to the stable tracepoint is
> changed to keep the output to user the same.
> 
> For example: lets look at sched_switch:
> 
> TRACE_EVENT(sched_switch,
> 
> 	TP_PROTO(struct task_struct *prev,
> 		 struct task_struct *next),
> 
> 	TP_ARGS(prev, next),
> 
> 	TP_STRUCT__entry(
> 		__array(	char,	prev_comm,	TASK_COMM_LEN	)
> 		__field(	pid_t,	prev_pid			)
> 		__field(	int,	prev_prio			)
> 		__field(	long,	prev_state			)
> 		__array(	char,	next_comm,	TASK_COMM_LEN	)
> 		__field(	pid_t,	next_pid			)
> 		__field(	int,	next_prio			)
> 	),
> 
> 	TP_fast_assign(
> 		memcpy(__entry->next_comm, next->comm, TASK_COMM_LEN);
> 		__entry->prev_pid	= prev->pid;
> 		__entry->prev_prio	= prev->prio;
> 		__entry->prev_state	= __trace_sched_switch_state(prev);
> 		memcpy(__entry->prev_comm, prev->comm, TASK_COMM_LEN);
> 		__entry->next_pid	= next->pid;
> 		__entry->next_prio	= next->prio;
> 	),
> 
> 	TP_printk("prev_comm=%s prev_pid=%d prev_prio=%d prev_state=%s ==> next_comm=%s next_pid=%d next_prio=%d",
> 		__entry->prev_comm, __entry->prev_pid, __entry->prev_prio,
> 		__entry->prev_state ?
> 		  __print_flags(__entry->prev_state, "|",
> 				{ 1, "S"} , { 2, "D" }, { 4, "T" }, { 8, "t" },
> 				{ 16, "Z" }, { 32, "X" }, { 64, "x" },
> 				{ 128, "W" }) : "R",
> 		__entry->next_comm, __entry->next_pid, __entry->next_prio)
> );
> 
> 
> As Peter Zijlstra has pointed out, prio and state (as a number) may be
> deprecated if SCHED_DEADLINE gets in. We can keep this tracepoint as is,
> but create a new stable event that taps into the trace_sched_switch()
> and extracts only the stable fields. Something like:
> 
> 
> 	TP_fast_assign(
> 		memcpy(__entry->next_comm, next->comm, TASK_COMM_LEN);
> 		__entry->prev_pid	= prev->pid;
> 		__entry->prev_state	= __sched_state(prev->state);
> 		memcpy(__entry->prev_comm, prev->comm, TASK_COMM_LEN);
> 		__entry->next_pid	= next->pid;
> 	),
> 
> 
> The __sched_state() would return a character that matches what is
> retrieved by ps now, instead of returning a number.
> 
> Also, I would suggest removing the __entry trick, and have:
> 
> 	__assign(prev_pid, prev->pid);
> 
> This would allow us to be more flexible in how we write the field into
> the buffering system.
> 
> Now about format: The format in /debug/tracing/events/... looks like:
> 
> name: sched_switch
> ID: 57
> format:
> 	field:unsigned short common_type;	offset:0;	size:2;	signed:0;
> 	field:unsigned char common_flags;	offset:2;	size:1;	signed:0;
> 	field:unsigned char common_preempt_count;	offset:3;	size:1;	signed:0;
> 	field:int common_pid;	offset:4;	size:4;	signed:1;
> 	field:int common_lock_depth;	offset:8;	size:4;	signed:1;
> 
> 	field:char prev_comm[TASK_COMM_LEN];	offset:12;	size:16;	signed:1;
> 	field:pid_t prev_pid;	offset:28;	size:4;	signed:1;
> 	field:int prev_prio;	offset:32;	size:4;	signed:1;
> 	field:long prev_state;	offset:40;	size:8;	signed:1;
> 	field:char next_comm[TASK_COMM_LEN];	offset:48;	size:16;	signed:1;
> 	field:pid_t next_pid;	offset:64;	size:4;	signed:1;
> 	field:int next_prio;	offset:68;	size:4;	signed:1;
> 
> print fmt: "prev_comm=%s prev_pid=%d prev_prio=%d prev_state=%s ==> next_comm=%s next_pid=%d next_prio=%d", REC->prev_comm, REC->prev_pid, REC->prev_prio, REC->prev_state ? __print_flags(REC->prev_state, "|", { 1, "S"} , { 2, "D" }, { 4, "T" }, { 8, "t" }, { 16, "Z" }, { 32, "X" }, { 64, "x" }, { 128, "W" }) : "R", REC->next_comm, REC->next_pid, REC->next_prio
> 
> 
> The name is redundant. The ID should be specified by the tracer and not
> the event. The print fmt should go. The offset and size is in bytes, and
> I would suggest that we convert that to bits. This would let us compact
> the data better. I would also suggest removing the offset and instead
> specify an alignment:
> 
> 
> 	array:char prev_comm;	align:8;	size:8;	count:16;	signed:1;
> 	field:pid_t prev_pid;	align:8;	size:32;	signed:1;
> 	field:char prev_state;	align:8;	size:8;	signed:1;
> 	array:char next_comm;	align:8;	size:8;	count:16;	signed:1;
> 	field:pid_t next_pid;	align:8;	size:32;	signed:1;
> 
> Note, I removed the [] from prev_comm and next_comm and created an array
> instead. The size is per item in the array, and a count field is added
> to specify the number of items in that array.
> 
> As for dynamic arrays we can have:
> 
> 	dynamic:char name;	align:8;	size:8;	signed:1;
> 
> Where the alignment, size of each item, and signed is specified. The
> size of the array is know to be dynamic. We can discuss how this gets
> recorded into the buffer as well. The way ftrace and perf currently do
> it is to add a 32 bit word into that field. The first two bytes of that
> word specify the offset into the event data where the array exists, and
> the second 2 bytes is the array size.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 

So I assume these are going to be built-in...ie not dependent on
CONFIG_TRACEPOINTS?

Also, I'd like to see these well documented. I've started tracepoint
documentation, via docbook style comments here:

http://www.kernel.org/doc/htmldocs/tracepoint/

But we still have a ways to go...we can add a stable chapter or
notation for this.

thanks,

-Jason

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