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From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Nick Piggin" <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
	"Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	"Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	"Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@novell.com>,
	"Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Linux Virtualization"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Jeremy Fitzhardinge" <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, suzuki@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] kvm hypervisor : Add hypercalls to support pv-ticketlock
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:32:08 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110121140208.GA13609@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D38774B.6070704@goop.org>

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 09:56:27AM -0800, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> >  The key here is not to
> > sleep when waiting for locks (as implemented by current patch-series, which can 
> > put other VMs at an advantage by giving them more time than they are entitled 
> > to)
> 
> Why?  If a VCPU can't make progress because its waiting for some
> resource, then why not schedule something else instead?

In the process, "something else" can get more share of cpu resource than its 
entitled to and that's where I was bit concerned. I guess one could
employ hard-limits to cap "something else's" bandwidth where it is of real 
concern (like clouds).

> Presumably when
> the VCPU does become runnable, the scheduler will credit its previous
> blocked state and let it run in preference to something else.

which may not be sufficient for it to gain back bandwidth lost while blocked
(speaking of mainline scheduler atleast).

> > Is there a way we can dynamically expand the size of lock only upon contention
> > to include additional information like owning vcpu? Have the lock point to a
> > per-cpu area upon contention where additional details can be stored perhaps?
> 
> As soon as you add a pointer to the lock, you're increasing its size. 

I didn't really mean to expand size statically. Rather have some bits of the 
lock word store pointer to a per-cpu area when there is contention (somewhat 
similar to how bits of rt_mutex.owner are used). I haven't thought thr' this in
detail to see if that is possible though.

- vatsa

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-21 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-16 21:08 [PATCH 00/14] PV ticket locks without expanding spinlock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 01/14] x86/ticketlock: clean up types and accessors Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-11 17:21   ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 02/14] x86/ticketlock: convert spin loop to C Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 03/14] x86/ticketlock: Use C for __ticket_spin_unlock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 04/14] x86/ticketlock: make large and small ticket versions of spin_lock the same Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 05/14] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_lock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 06/14] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_trylock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 07/14] x86/spinlocks: replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 08/14] x86/ticketlock: collapse a layer of functions Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 09/14] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  8:11   ` Jan Beulich
2010-11-17  8:52     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  9:57       ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17 10:34         ` Jan Beulich
2010-11-17 17:41           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 10/14] x86/pvticketlock: use callee-save for lock_spinning Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 11/14] x86/ticketlock: don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 12/14] x86/ticketlocks: when paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 13/14] x86/ticketlock: add slowpath logic Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  8:31   ` Jan Beulich
2010-11-17  8:52     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  8:56       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  9:08         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  9:34           ` Jan Beulich
2010-11-17  8:58       ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17  9:05         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  9:10           ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 12:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 15:25     ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-17 15:22   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 16:23     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-24 21:56       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-02-18 17:03         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 18:31     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-19 18:39       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 18:55         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-20  4:28           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-20  9:52           ` Jan Beulich
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 14/14] x86/ticketlocks: tidy up __ticket_unlock_kick() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  8:56 ` [PATCH 00/14] PV ticket locks without expanding spinlock Avi Kivity
2011-01-19 16:44 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 17:07   ` [PATCH 1/3] debugfs: Add support to print u32 array Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 17:12   ` [PATCH 2/3] kvm hypervisor : Add hypercalls to support pv-ticketlock Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 17:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-19 18:29       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 18:53       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-20 11:42         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-20 17:49           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-20 11:59         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-20 13:41           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-20 14:34             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-20 17:56           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-21 14:02             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2011-01-21 14:48               ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-22  6:14                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-22 14:53                   ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-24 17:49                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-19 17:23     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 17:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-19 17:17   ` [PATCH 3/3] kvm guest : Add support for pv-ticketlocks Srivatsa Vaddagiri

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