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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Nick Piggin" <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
	"Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	"Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	"Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@novell.com>,
	"Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Linux Virtualization"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Jeremy Fitzhardinge" <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, suzuki@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] kvm hypervisor : Add hypercalls to support pv-ticketlock
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:56:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D38774B.6070704@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110120115958.GB11177@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 01/20/2011 03:59 AM, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
>> At least in the Xen code, a current owner isn't very useful, because we
>> need the current owner to kick the *next* owner to life at release time,
>> which we can't do without some structure recording which ticket belongs
>> to which cpu.
> If we had a yield-to [1] sort of interface _and_ information on which vcpu
> owns a lock, then lock-spinners can yield-to the owning vcpu, while the
> unlocking vcpu can yield-to the next-vcpu-in-waiting.

Perhaps, but the core problem is how to find "next-vcpu-in-waiting"
efficiently.  Once you have that info, there's a number of things you
can usefully do with it.

>  The key here is not to
> sleep when waiting for locks (as implemented by current patch-series, which can 
> put other VMs at an advantage by giving them more time than they are entitled 
> to)

Why?  If a VCPU can't make progress because its waiting for some
resource, then why not schedule something else instead?  Presumably when
the VCPU does become runnable, the scheduler will credit its previous
blocked state and let it run in preference to something else.

>  and also to ensure that lock-owner as well as the next-in-line lock-owner 
> are not unduly made to wait for cpu. 
>
> Is there a way we can dynamically expand the size of lock only upon contention
> to include additional information like owning vcpu? Have the lock point to a
> per-cpu area upon contention where additional details can be stored perhaps?

As soon as you add a pointer to the lock, you're increasing its size. 
If we had a pointer in there already, then all of this would be moot.

If auxiliary per-lock is uncommon, then using a hash keyed on lock
address would be one way to do it.

    J

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-01-20 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-16 21:08 [PATCH 00/14] PV ticket locks without expanding spinlock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 01/14] x86/ticketlock: clean up types and accessors Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-11 17:21   ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 02/14] x86/ticketlock: convert spin loop to C Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 03/14] x86/ticketlock: Use C for __ticket_spin_unlock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 04/14] x86/ticketlock: make large and small ticket versions of spin_lock the same Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 05/14] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_lock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 06/14] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_trylock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 07/14] x86/spinlocks: replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 08/14] x86/ticketlock: collapse a layer of functions Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 09/14] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  8:11   ` Jan Beulich
2010-11-17  8:52     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  9:57       ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17 10:34         ` Jan Beulich
2010-11-17 17:41           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 10/14] x86/pvticketlock: use callee-save for lock_spinning Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 11/14] x86/ticketlock: don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 12/14] x86/ticketlocks: when paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 13/14] x86/ticketlock: add slowpath logic Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  8:31   ` Jan Beulich
2010-11-17  8:52     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  8:56       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  9:08         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  9:34           ` Jan Beulich
2010-11-17  8:58       ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17  9:05         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  9:10           ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 12:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 15:25     ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-17 15:22   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 16:23     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-24 21:56       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-02-18 17:03         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 18:31     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-19 18:39       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 18:55         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-20  4:28           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-20  9:52           ` Jan Beulich
2010-11-16 21:08 ` [PATCH 14/14] x86/ticketlocks: tidy up __ticket_unlock_kick() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-17  8:56 ` [PATCH 00/14] PV ticket locks without expanding spinlock Avi Kivity
2011-01-19 16:44 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 17:07   ` [PATCH 1/3] debugfs: Add support to print u32 array Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 17:12   ` [PATCH 2/3] kvm hypervisor : Add hypercalls to support pv-ticketlock Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 17:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-19 18:29       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 18:53       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-20 11:42         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-20 17:49           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-20 11:59         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-20 13:41           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-20 14:34             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-20 17:56           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2011-01-21 14:02             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-21 14:48               ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-22  6:14                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-22 14:53                   ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-24 17:49                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-19 17:23     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-01-19 17:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-19 17:17   ` [PATCH 3/3] kvm guest : Add support for pv-ticketlocks Srivatsa Vaddagiri

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