* Re: replacement for /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux in DT/pinctrl land ?
[not found] <D7202A6C-5250-4B55-B3B8-FF15BCCA97AC@dominion.thruhere.net>
@ 2012-09-26 12:56 ` Matt Porter
2012-09-26 13:03 ` Linus Walleij
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Matt Porter @ 2012-09-26 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Koen Kooi; +Cc: List List, Linux Kernel Mailing List, linus.walleij
Adding Linus W. and lkml.
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 01:46:45PM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> With a patched 3.6rc7 on my beaglebone I can set the pinmux for pins using pinctrl and that seems to work. On the 3.2 vendor tree there was the omap_mux driver with an awesome debugfs interface:
>
> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/lcd_data0
> name: lcd_data0.ehrpwm2A (0x44e108a0/0x8a0 = 0x0003), b NA, t NA
> mode: OMAP_PIN_OUTPUT | OMAP_MUX_MODE3
> signals: lcd_data0 | gpmc_a0 | pr1_mii_mt0_clk | ehrpwm2A | NA | pr1_pru1_pru_r30_0 | pr1_pru1_pru_r31_0 | gpio2_6
>
> Notice how it tells me that it's muxed the PWM in 2 ways: signal name (ehrpwm2A) and register content (0x0003). Compare to pinctrl:
>
> root@bone-mainline:/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux# grep 8a0 *
> pinconf-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0):
> pingroups:pin 40 (44e108a0)
> pinmux-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0): 4a300000.pruss (GPIO UNCLAIMED) function pinmux_pruss_led_pins group pinmux_pruss_led_pins
> pins:pin 40 (44e108a0) pinctrl-single
>
> What is that pin muxed to? It is part of the 'pinmux_pruss_led_pins' in the DT, but debugfs remains mute on how pin 40 is muxed.
It does seem like a pretty big gap in the pinctrl/pinmux debugfs
interface when viewed from an OMAP perspective. Ideally there would
be a pinctrl/pinmux hook to the pinmux driver to provide the detailed
h/w specific pin state info.
-Matt
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* Re: replacement for /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux in DT/pinctrl land ?
2012-09-26 12:56 ` replacement for /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux in DT/pinctrl land ? Matt Porter
@ 2012-09-26 13:03 ` Linus Walleij
2012-09-26 16:15 ` Matt Porter
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Linus Walleij @ 2012-09-26 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt Porter, Tony Lindgren
Cc: Koen Kooi, List List, Linux Kernel Mailing List
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com> wrote:
> Adding Linus W. and lkml.
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 01:46:45PM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> With a patched 3.6rc7 on my beaglebone I can set the pinmux for pins using pinctrl and that seems to work. On the 3.2 vendor tree there was the omap_mux driver with an awesome debugfs interface:
>>
>> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/lcd_data0
>> name: lcd_data0.ehrpwm2A (0x44e108a0/0x8a0 = 0x0003), b NA, t NA
>> mode: OMAP_PIN_OUTPUT | OMAP_MUX_MODE3
>> signals: lcd_data0 | gpmc_a0 | pr1_mii_mt0_clk | ehrpwm2A | NA | pr1_pru1_pru_r30_0 | pr1_pru1_pru_r31_0 | gpio2_6
>>
>> Notice how it tells me that it's muxed the PWM in 2 ways: signal name (ehrpwm2A) and register content (0x0003). Compare to pinctrl:
>>
>> root@bone-mainline:/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux# grep 8a0 *
>> pinconf-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0):
>> pingroups:pin 40 (44e108a0)
>> pinmux-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0): 4a300000.pruss (GPIO UNCLAIMED) function pinmux_pruss_led_pins group pinmux_pruss_led_pins
>> pins:pin 40 (44e108a0) pinctrl-single
>>
>> What is that pin muxed to? It is part of the 'pinmux_pruss_led_pins' in the DT, but debugfs remains mute on how pin 40 is muxed.
>
> It does seem like a pretty big gap in the pinctrl/pinmux debugfs
> interface when viewed from an OMAP perspective. Ideally there would
> be a pinctrl/pinmux hook to the pinmux driver to provide the detailed
> h/w specific pin state info.
So add the hooks you need?
I assume you are using Tony's pinctrl-single driver, so Tony is the one to ask.
Yours,
Linus Walleij
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* Re: replacement for /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux in DT/pinctrl land ?
2012-09-26 13:03 ` Linus Walleij
@ 2012-09-26 16:15 ` Matt Porter
2012-09-26 17:21 ` Koen Kooi
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Matt Porter @ 2012-09-26 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linus Walleij
Cc: Tony Lindgren, Koen Kooi, List List, Linux Kernel Mailing List
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 03:03:27PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com> wrote:
> > Adding Linus W. and lkml.
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 01:46:45PM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> With a patched 3.6rc7 on my beaglebone I can set the pinmux for pins using pinctrl and that seems to work. On the 3.2 vendor tree there was the omap_mux driver with an awesome debugfs interface:
> >>
> >> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/lcd_data0
> >> name: lcd_data0.ehrpwm2A (0x44e108a0/0x8a0 = 0x0003), b NA, t NA
> >> mode: OMAP_PIN_OUTPUT | OMAP_MUX_MODE3
> >> signals: lcd_data0 | gpmc_a0 | pr1_mii_mt0_clk | ehrpwm2A | NA | pr1_pru1_pru_r30_0 | pr1_pru1_pru_r31_0 | gpio2_6
> >>
> >> Notice how it tells me that it's muxed the PWM in 2 ways: signal name (ehrpwm2A) and register content (0x0003). Compare to pinctrl:
> >>
> >> root@bone-mainline:/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux# grep 8a0 *
> >> pinconf-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0):
> >> pingroups:pin 40 (44e108a0)
> >> pinmux-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0): 4a300000.pruss (GPIO UNCLAIMED) function pinmux_pruss_led_pins group pinmux_pruss_led_pins
> >> pins:pin 40 (44e108a0) pinctrl-single
> >>
> >> What is that pin muxed to? It is part of the 'pinmux_pruss_led_pins' in the DT, but debugfs remains mute on how pin 40 is muxed.
> >
> > It does seem like a pretty big gap in the pinctrl/pinmux debugfs
> > interface when viewed from an OMAP perspective. Ideally there would
> > be a pinctrl/pinmux hook to the pinmux driver to provide the detailed
> > h/w specific pin state info.
>
> So add the hooks you need?
Ok. :)
> I assume you are using Tony's pinctrl-single driver, so Tony is the one to ask.
Yes, so roughly for pinctrl-single I have the following...likely broken
for arbitrary register sizes but a starting point. Tony, any thoughts
about this?
Koen: you just need a userspace tool that groks the raw data for human
consumption. The nice thing is that the old omap_mux implementation had
plenty of OMAP-isms in the parser that didn't apply to AM33xx. A
userspace tool can do a better job of parsing on a per-part basis.
--- a/drivers/pinctrl/pinctrl-single.c
+++ b/drivers/pinctrl/pinctrl-single.c
@@ -246,7 +246,15 @@ static void pcs_pin_dbg_show(struct pinctrl_dev *pctldev,
struct seq_file *s,
unsigned offset)
{
- seq_printf(s, " " DRIVER_NAME);
+ struct pcs_device *pcs;
+ unsigned val;
+
+ pcs = pinctrl_dev_get_drvdata(pctldev);
+
+ val = pcs->read(pcs->base + offset);
+ val &= pcs->fmask;
+
+ seq_printf(s, "%08x %s " , val, DRIVER_NAME);
}
static void pcs_dt_free_map(struct pinctrl_dev *pctldev,
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* Re: replacement for /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux in DT/pinctrl land ?
2012-09-26 16:15 ` Matt Porter
@ 2012-09-26 17:21 ` Koen Kooi
2012-09-26 18:52 ` Tony Lindgren
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Koen Kooi @ 2012-09-26 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt Porter
Cc: Linus Walleij, Tony Lindgren, List List, Linux Kernel Mailing List
Op 26 sep. 2012, om 18:15 heeft Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com> het volgende geschreven:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 03:03:27PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com> wrote:
>>> Adding Linus W. and lkml.
>>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 01:46:45PM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> With a patched 3.6rc7 on my beaglebone I can set the pinmux for pins using pinctrl and that seems to work. On the 3.2 vendor tree there was the omap_mux driver with an awesome debugfs interface:
>>>>
>>>> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/lcd_data0
>>>> name: lcd_data0.ehrpwm2A (0x44e108a0/0x8a0 = 0x0003), b NA, t NA
>>>> mode: OMAP_PIN_OUTPUT | OMAP_MUX_MODE3
>>>> signals: lcd_data0 | gpmc_a0 | pr1_mii_mt0_clk | ehrpwm2A | NA | pr1_pru1_pru_r30_0 | pr1_pru1_pru_r31_0 | gpio2_6
>>>>
>>>> Notice how it tells me that it's muxed the PWM in 2 ways: signal name (ehrpwm2A) and register content (0x0003). Compare to pinctrl:
>>>>
>>>> root@bone-mainline:/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux# grep 8a0 *
>>>> pinconf-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0):
>>>> pingroups:pin 40 (44e108a0)
>>>> pinmux-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0): 4a300000.pruss (GPIO UNCLAIMED) function pinmux_pruss_led_pins group pinmux_pruss_led_pins
>>>> pins:pin 40 (44e108a0) pinctrl-single
>>>>
>>>> What is that pin muxed to? It is part of the 'pinmux_pruss_led_pins' in the DT, but debugfs remains mute on how pin 40 is muxed.
>>>
>>> It does seem like a pretty big gap in the pinctrl/pinmux debugfs
>>> interface when viewed from an OMAP perspective. Ideally there would
>>> be a pinctrl/pinmux hook to the pinmux driver to provide the detailed
>>> h/w specific pin state info.
>>
>> So add the hooks you need?
>
> Ok. :)
>
>> I assume you are using Tony's pinctrl-single driver, so Tony is the one to ask.
>
> Yes, so roughly for pinctrl-single I have the following...likely broken
> for arbitrary register sizes but a starting point. Tony, any thoughts
> about this?
>
> Koen: you just need a userspace tool that groks the raw data for human
> consumption. The nice thing is that the old omap_mux implementation had
> plenty of OMAP-isms in the parser that didn't apply to AM33xx. A
> userspace tool can do a better job of parsing on a per-part basis.
>
> --- a/drivers/pinctrl/pinctrl-single.c
> +++ b/drivers/pinctrl/pinctrl-single.c
> @@ -246,7 +246,15 @@ static void pcs_pin_dbg_show(struct pinctrl_dev *pctldev,
> struct seq_file *s,
> unsigned offset)
> {
> - seq_printf(s, " " DRIVER_NAME);
> + struct pcs_device *pcs;
> + unsigned val;
> +
> + pcs = pinctrl_dev_get_drvdata(pctldev);
> +
> + val = pcs->read(pcs->base + offset);
> + val &= pcs->fmask;
> +
> + seq_printf(s, "%08x %s " , val, DRIVER_NAME);
> }
>
> static void pcs_dt_free_map(struct pinctrl_dev *pctldev,
Much better already:
root@bone-mainline:/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux# grep 8a0 pins
pin 40 (44e108a0) 00000027 pinctrl-single
Now I can write a userspace tool do list the current muxes without resorting to devmem2!
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* Re: replacement for /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux in DT/pinctrl land ?
2012-09-26 17:21 ` Koen Kooi
@ 2012-09-26 18:52 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-09-26 18:53 ` Koen Kooi
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Tony Lindgren @ 2012-09-26 18:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Koen Kooi
Cc: Matt Porter, Linus Walleij, List List, Linux Kernel Mailing List
* Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> [120926 10:23]:
>
> Op 26 sep. 2012, om 18:15 heeft Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 03:03:27PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com> wrote:
> >>> Adding Linus W. and lkml.
> >>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 01:46:45PM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> With a patched 3.6rc7 on my beaglebone I can set the pinmux for pins using pinctrl and that seems to work. On the 3.2 vendor tree there was the omap_mux driver with an awesome debugfs interface:
> >>>>
> >>>> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/lcd_data0
> >>>> name: lcd_data0.ehrpwm2A (0x44e108a0/0x8a0 = 0x0003), b NA, t NA
> >>>> mode: OMAP_PIN_OUTPUT | OMAP_MUX_MODE3
> >>>> signals: lcd_data0 | gpmc_a0 | pr1_mii_mt0_clk | ehrpwm2A | NA | pr1_pru1_pru_r30_0 | pr1_pru1_pru_r31_0 | gpio2_6
> >>>>
> >>>> Notice how it tells me that it's muxed the PWM in 2 ways: signal name (ehrpwm2A) and register content (0x0003). Compare to pinctrl:
> >>>>
> >>>> root@bone-mainline:/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux# grep 8a0 *
> >>>> pinconf-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0):
> >>>> pingroups:pin 40 (44e108a0)
> >>>> pinmux-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0): 4a300000.pruss (GPIO UNCLAIMED) function pinmux_pruss_led_pins group pinmux_pruss_led_pins
> >>>> pins:pin 40 (44e108a0) pinctrl-single
> >>>>
> >>>> What is that pin muxed to? It is part of the 'pinmux_pruss_led_pins' in the DT, but debugfs remains mute on how pin 40 is muxed.
> >>>
> >>> It does seem like a pretty big gap in the pinctrl/pinmux debugfs
> >>> interface when viewed from an OMAP perspective. Ideally there would
> >>> be a pinctrl/pinmux hook to the pinmux driver to provide the detailed
> >>> h/w specific pin state info.
> >>
> >> So add the hooks you need?
> >
> > Ok. :)
> >
> >> I assume you are using Tony's pinctrl-single driver, so Tony is the one to ask.
> >
> > Yes, so roughly for pinctrl-single I have the following...likely broken
> > for arbitrary register sizes but a starting point. Tony, any thoughts
> > about this?
> >
> > Koen: you just need a userspace tool that groks the raw data for human
> > consumption. The nice thing is that the old omap_mux implementation had
> > plenty of OMAP-isms in the parser that didn't apply to AM33xx. A
> > userspace tool can do a better job of parsing on a per-part basis.
> >
> > --- a/drivers/pinctrl/pinctrl-single.c
> > +++ b/drivers/pinctrl/pinctrl-single.c
> > @@ -246,7 +246,15 @@ static void pcs_pin_dbg_show(struct pinctrl_dev *pctldev,
> > struct seq_file *s,
> > unsigned offset)
> > {
> > - seq_printf(s, " " DRIVER_NAME);
> > + struct pcs_device *pcs;
> > + unsigned val;
> > +
> > + pcs = pinctrl_dev_get_drvdata(pctldev);
> > +
> > + val = pcs->read(pcs->base + offset);
> > + val &= pcs->fmask;
> > +
> > + seq_printf(s, "%08x %s " , val, DRIVER_NAME);
> > }
> >
> > static void pcs_dt_free_map(struct pinctrl_dev *pctldev,
>
> Much better already:
>
> root@bone-mainline:/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux# grep 8a0 pins
> pin 40 (44e108a0) 00000027 pinctrl-single
Cool :) For the proper patch feel free to add:
Acked-by: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
> Now I can write a userspace tool do list the current muxes without resorting to devmem2!
Yeah maybe add support to omapconf for that? I can generate
the data for balls etc from old omap mux if you let me know the
format you need.
Regards,
Tony
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* Re: replacement for /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux in DT/pinctrl land ?
2012-09-26 18:52 ` Tony Lindgren
@ 2012-09-26 18:53 ` Koen Kooi
2012-09-26 19:04 ` Tony Lindgren
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Koen Kooi @ 2012-09-26 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tony Lindgren
Cc: Matt Porter, Linus Walleij, List List, Linux Kernel Mailing List
Op 26 sep. 2012, om 20:52 heeft Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> het volgende geschreven:
> * Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> [120926 10:23]:
>>
>> Op 26 sep. 2012, om 18:15 heeft Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 03:03:27PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com> wrote:
>>>>> Adding Linus W. and lkml.
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 01:46:45PM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With a patched 3.6rc7 on my beaglebone I can set the pinmux for pins using pinctrl and that seems to work. On the 3.2 vendor tree there was the omap_mux driver with an awesome debugfs interface:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/lcd_data0
>>>>>> name: lcd_data0.ehrpwm2A (0x44e108a0/0x8a0 = 0x0003), b NA, t NA
>>>>>> mode: OMAP_PIN_OUTPUT | OMAP_MUX_MODE3
>>>>>> signals: lcd_data0 | gpmc_a0 | pr1_mii_mt0_clk | ehrpwm2A | NA | pr1_pru1_pru_r30_0 | pr1_pru1_pru_r31_0 | gpio2_6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notice how it tells me that it's muxed the PWM in 2 ways: signal name (ehrpwm2A) and register content (0x0003). Compare to pinctrl:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> root@bone-mainline:/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux# grep 8a0 *
>>>>>> pinconf-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0):
>>>>>> pingroups:pin 40 (44e108a0)
>>>>>> pinmux-pins:pin 40 (44e108a0): 4a300000.pruss (GPIO UNCLAIMED) function pinmux_pruss_led_pins group pinmux_pruss_led_pins
>>>>>> pins:pin 40 (44e108a0) pinctrl-single
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is that pin muxed to? It is part of the 'pinmux_pruss_led_pins' in the DT, but debugfs remains mute on how pin 40 is muxed.
>>>>>
>>>>> It does seem like a pretty big gap in the pinctrl/pinmux debugfs
>>>>> interface when viewed from an OMAP perspective. Ideally there would
>>>>> be a pinctrl/pinmux hook to the pinmux driver to provide the detailed
>>>>> h/w specific pin state info.
>>>>
>>>> So add the hooks you need?
>>>
>>> Ok. :)
>>>
>>>> I assume you are using Tony's pinctrl-single driver, so Tony is the one to ask.
>>>
>>> Yes, so roughly for pinctrl-single I have the following...likely broken
>>> for arbitrary register sizes but a starting point. Tony, any thoughts
>>> about this?
>>>
>>> Koen: you just need a userspace tool that groks the raw data for human
>>> consumption. The nice thing is that the old omap_mux implementation had
>>> plenty of OMAP-isms in the parser that didn't apply to AM33xx. A
>>> userspace tool can do a better job of parsing on a per-part basis.
>>>
>>> --- a/drivers/pinctrl/pinctrl-single.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/pinctrl/pinctrl-single.c
>>> @@ -246,7 +246,15 @@ static void pcs_pin_dbg_show(struct pinctrl_dev *pctldev,
>>> struct seq_file *s,
>>> unsigned offset)
>>> {
>>> - seq_printf(s, " " DRIVER_NAME);
>>> + struct pcs_device *pcs;
>>> + unsigned val;
>>> +
>>> + pcs = pinctrl_dev_get_drvdata(pctldev);
>>> +
>>> + val = pcs->read(pcs->base + offset);
>>> + val &= pcs->fmask;
>>> +
>>> + seq_printf(s, "%08x %s " , val, DRIVER_NAME);
>>> }
>>>
>>> static void pcs_dt_free_map(struct pinctrl_dev *pctldev,
>>
>> Much better already:
>>
>> root@bone-mainline:/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux# grep 8a0 pins
>> pin 40 (44e108a0) 00000027 pinctrl-single
>
> Cool :) For the proper patch feel free to add:
>
> Acked-by: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
>
>> Now I can write a userspace tool do list the current muxes without resorting to devmem2!
>
> Yeah maybe add support to omapconf for that? I can generate
> the data for balls etc from old omap mux if you let me know the
> format you need.
It's for am335x :)
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* Re: replacement for /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux in DT/pinctrl land ?
2012-09-26 18:53 ` Koen Kooi
@ 2012-09-26 19:04 ` Tony Lindgren
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Tony Lindgren @ 2012-09-26 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Koen Kooi
Cc: Matt Porter, Linus Walleij, List List, Linux Kernel Mailing List
* Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> [120926 11:54]:
>
> It's for am335x :)
Ah OK we don't have that data in the kernel then. But
if you have some format in mind suitable I can still
generate the other omap+package+mode data for you.
Regards,
Tony
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