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From: "Henrik Rydberg" <rydberg@euromail.se>
To: Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Stephane Chatty <chatty@enac.fr>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/13] HID: hid-multitouch: support for hovering devices
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:04:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121113180453.GA3622@polaris.bitmath.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN+gG=EbAdfOG_vwt2uamV+JcAKLFqM=zTo9oRQ9RLayrpdsoA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Benjamin,

> > Why [-1,1] here?
> 
> At first, I only used [0,1]. However, it's still the same problem with
> the information being kept between the touches:
> if you start an application after having touched your device, you
> normally have to ask for the different per-touche states to get x, y,
> distance, pressure, etc...
> However, this is not much mandatory because the protocol in its
> current form ensures that you will get the new states of the axes when
> a new touch occurs.

Right, the stateful communication requires a full state read after
opening the deivce, although in most cases this is not really
necessary. This is no different for ABS_MT_DISTANCE, of course.

> ABS_MT_DISTANCE is a little bit different here because the protocol
> guarantees that once you get the "not in range" state through
> tracking_id == -1, distance should be 1.
> When the new touch of the very same slot occurs, you also have the
> guarantee that distance is at 1 too.

ABS_MT_DISTANCE is just another attribute of the slot, so it really is
no different.

> So basically, if you don't ask for the slot states, you will never get
> that very first distance.

Which will not be important either; as long as the slot is unused, it
does not matter what the attributes of that slot are.

> I know that it's a user-space problem, but honestly, I don't want to
> fix several user-space problems when we could fix it through the
> protocol.
> 
> I can see 2 solutions:
> - set the range to: [0,1] and still sending -1 (or 2) for the invalid
> distance value (if it's not clamped)
> - set the range to: [0,2] and having: 0 for touch, 1 for hovering, and
> 2 for not in range
> 
> Does that make sense?

I just do not see what problem you want to solve here.

Thanks,
Henrik

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-13 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-07 16:37 [PATCH v3 00/13] Win 8 support for digitizers Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] HID: hid-input: export hidinput_calc_abs_res Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13  7:45   ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] HID: hid-input: round return value of hidinput_calc_abs_res Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13  7:44   ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] HID: core: fix unit exponent parsing Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13  7:43   ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] HID: hid-input: add usage_index in struct hid_usage Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13  7:44   ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-13 15:38   ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] HID: hid-multitouch: support arrays for the split of the touches in a report Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 15:44   ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] HID: hid-multitouch: get maxcontacts also from logical_max value Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] HID: hid-multitouch: support T and C for win8 devices Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 15:56   ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] HID: hid-multitouch: move ALWAYS_VALID quirk check Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 15:57   ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] HID: hid-multitouch: add MT_QUIRK_IGNORE_DUPLICATES Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 16:25   ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] HID: hid-multitouch: fix Win 8 protocol Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 16:31   ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] HID: hid-multitouch: support for hovering devices Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 16:42   ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-13 17:29     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 18:04       ` Henrik Rydberg [this message]
2012-11-13 18:08         ` Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 18:55           ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] HID: introduce Scan Time Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-09  8:45   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-11-13 14:25     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 17:15       ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-07 16:37 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] HID: hid-multitouch: forwards ABS_SCAN_TIME Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 14:30   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 17:27     ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-13 17:45       ` Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 18:28         ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-13 18:43           ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-13  7:47 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] Win 8 support for digitizers Jiri Kosina
2012-11-13  8:12   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2012-11-13 17:33   ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-11-13 17:52     ` Benjamin Tissoires

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