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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Zlatko Calusic <zcalusic@bitsync.net>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	dormando <dormando@rydia.net>,
	Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@hds.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd shrink slab only once per priority
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:13:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130409111358.GB2002@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130409065325.GA4411@lge.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 03:53:25PM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> Hello, Mel.
> Sorry for too late question.
> 

No need to apologise at all.

> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 01:04:14PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > If kswaps fails to make progress but continues to shrink slab then it'll
> > either discard all of slab or consume CPU uselessly scanning shrinkers.
> > This patch causes kswapd to only call the shrinkers once per priority.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> > ---
> >  mm/vmscan.c | 28 +++++++++++++++++++++-------
> >  1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > index 7d5a932..84375b2 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -2661,9 +2661,10 @@ static bool prepare_kswapd_sleep(pg_data_t *pgdat, int order, long remaining,
> >   */
> >  static bool kswapd_shrink_zone(struct zone *zone,
> >  			       struct scan_control *sc,
> > -			       unsigned long lru_pages)
> > +			       unsigned long lru_pages,
> > +			       bool shrinking_slab)
> >  {
> > -	unsigned long nr_slab;
> > +	unsigned long nr_slab = 0;
> >  	struct reclaim_state *reclaim_state = current->reclaim_state;
> >  	struct shrink_control shrink = {
> >  		.gfp_mask = sc->gfp_mask,
> > @@ -2673,9 +2674,15 @@ static bool kswapd_shrink_zone(struct zone *zone,
> >  	sc->nr_to_reclaim = max(SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, high_wmark_pages(zone));
> >  	shrink_zone(zone, sc);
> >  
> > -	reclaim_state->reclaimed_slab = 0;
> > -	nr_slab = shrink_slab(&shrink, sc->nr_scanned, lru_pages);
> > -	sc->nr_reclaimed += reclaim_state->reclaimed_slab;
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Slabs are shrunk for each zone once per priority or if the zone
> > +	 * being balanced is otherwise unreclaimable
> > +	 */
> > +	if (shrinking_slab || !zone_reclaimable(zone)) {
> > +		reclaim_state->reclaimed_slab = 0;
> > +		nr_slab = shrink_slab(&shrink, sc->nr_scanned, lru_pages);
> > +		sc->nr_reclaimed += reclaim_state->reclaimed_slab;
> > +	}
> >  
> >  	if (nr_slab == 0 && !zone_reclaimable(zone))
> >  		zone->all_unreclaimable = 1;
> 
> Why shrink_slab() is called here?

Preserves existing behaviour.

> I think that outside of zone loop is better place to run shrink_slab(),
> because shrink_slab() is not directly related to a specific zone.
> 

This is true and has been the case for a long time. The slab shrinkers
are not zone aware and it is complicated by the fact that slab usage can
indirectly pin memory on other zones. Consider for example a slab object
that is an inode entry that is allocated from the Normal zone on a
32-bit machine. Reclaiming may free memory from the Highmem zone.

It's less obvious a problem on 64-bit machines but freeing slab objects
from a zone like DMA32 can indirectly free memory from the Normal zone or
even another node entirely.

> And this is a question not related to this patch.
> Why nr_slab is used here to decide zone->all_unreclaimable?

Slab is not directly associated with a slab but as reclaiming slab can
free memory from unpredictable zones we do not consider a zone to be
fully unreclaimable until we cannot shrink slab any more.

You may be thinking that this is extremely heavy handed and you're
right, it is.

> nr_slab is not directly related whether a specific zone is reclaimable
> or not, and, moreover, nr_slab is not directly related to number of
> reclaimed pages. It just say some objects in the system are freed.
> 

All true, it's the indirect relation between slab objects and the memory
that is freed when slab objects are reclaimed that has to be taken into
account.

> This question comes from my ignorance, so please enlighten me.
> 

I hope this clarifies matters.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-09 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-17 13:04 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: vmscan: Limit the number of pages kswapd reclaims at each priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 23:53   ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19  9:55     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:16       ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:59         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-20 16:18   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21  0:52     ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22  0:08       ` Will Huck
2013-03-21  9:47     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 12:59       ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21  0:51   ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 15:57   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-21 16:47     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22  0:05     ` Will Huck
2013-03-22  3:52       ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22  3:56         ` Will Huck
2013-03-22  4:59           ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 13:01             ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-05  0:05               ` Will Huck
2013-04-07  7:32                 ` Will Huck
2013-04-07  7:35                 ` Will Huck
2013-04-11  5:54         ` Will Huck
2013-04-11  5:58         ` Will Huck
2013-04-12  5:46           ` Ric Mason
2013-04-12  9:34             ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-12 13:40               ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-25  9:07   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-25  9:13     ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-28 22:31       ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-29  8:22         ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-30 22:07           ` Jiri Slaby
2013-04-02 11:15             ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:39   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:08     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21  1:10   ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21  9:54     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 14:01   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 14:31     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:07       ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:34         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22  7:54           ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22  8:37             ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 10:04               ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22 10:47                 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 16:25   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-21 18:02     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 16:53       ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 18:25         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 19:09           ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 19:46             ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: vmscan: Flatten kswapd priority loop Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:36   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:09     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 23:58   ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:12     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19  3:08   ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19  8:23     ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-19 10:14     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:26       ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 11:01         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 14:54   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:26     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:38       ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: vmscan: Decide whether to compact the pgdat based on reclaim progress Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:35   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-19 10:27     ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]   ` <20130318111130.GA7245@hacker.(null)>
2013-03-19 10:19     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:32   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:47     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:50       ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: vmscan: Do not allow kswapd to scan at maximum priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-21  1:20   ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 10:12     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 12:30       ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 15:48   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd writeback pages based on dirty pages encountered, not priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:42   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:11     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 17:53       ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 18:15         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 18:21           ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]   ` <20130318110850.GA7144@hacker.(null)>
2013-03-19 10:35     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: vmscan: Block kswapd if it is encountering pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:49   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:19     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 15:40       ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-19 11:06         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:37   ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:57     ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]   ` <20130318115827.GB7245@hacker.(null)>
2013-03-19 10:58     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 16:32   ` [PATCH 07/10 -v2r1] " Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:42   ` [PATCH 07/10] " Rik van Riel
2013-03-22  8:27     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd shrink slab only once per priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:53   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-21 16:47   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 19:47   ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-09  6:53   ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09  8:41     ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-09 11:13     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2013-04-10  1:07       ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10  5:23         ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-11  9:53         ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-10  5:21       ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-11 10:01         ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 10:29           ` Ric Mason
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: vmscan: Check if kswapd should writepage " Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 16:58   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:07     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 19:52   ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: vmscan: Move logic from balance_pgdat() to kswapd_shrink_zone() Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:55   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:25     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 17:18   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:13     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 14:37 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-24 19:00 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-25  8:17   ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 11:06 [PATCH 0/10] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd V2 Mel Gorman
2013-04-09 11:07 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd shrink slab only once per priority Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 19:57 [PATCH 0/10] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd V3 Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 19:57 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd shrink slab only once per priority Mel Gorman
2013-04-18 16:43   ` Johannes Weiner

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