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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Nathan Zimmer <nzimmer@sgi.com>,
	holt@sgi.com, rob@landley.net, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, yinghai@kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Transparent on-demand memory setup initialization embedded in the (GFP) buddy allocator
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:37:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130626133715.GA6424@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130626062850.a7ce5806.akpm@linux-foundation.org>


* Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:22:48 +0200 Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > except that on 32 TB 
> > systems we don't spend ~2 hours initializing 8,589,934,592 page heads.
> 
> That's about a million a second which is crazy slow - even my 
> prehistoric desktop is 100x faster than that.
> 
> Where's all this time actually being spent?

See the earlier part of the thread - apparently it's spent initializing 
the page heads - remote NUMA node misses from a single boot CPU, going 
across a zillion cross-connects? I guess there's some other low hanging 
fruits as well - so making this easier to profile would be nice. The 
profile posted was not really usable.

Btw., NUMA locality would be another advantage of on-demand 
initialization: actual users of RAM tend to allocate node-local 
(especially on large clusters), so any overhead will be naturally lower.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-26 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-21 16:25 [RFC 0/2] Delay initializing of large sections of memory Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 16:25 ` [RFC 1/2] x86_64, mm: Delay initializing large portion " Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-25  4:14   ` Rob Landley
2013-06-21 16:25 ` [RFC 2/2] x86_64, mm: Reinsert the absent memory Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-23  9:28   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-23  9:32     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-24 17:38       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-24 19:39         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-24 20:08           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25  7:31             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-24 20:36     ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-25  7:38       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-25 15:07         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 17:19           ` Mike Travis
2013-06-25 17:22         ` Mike Travis
2013-06-25 18:43           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 18:51             ` Mike Travis
2013-06-26  9:22               ` [RFC] Transparent on-demand memory setup initialization embedded in the (GFP) buddy allocator Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 13:28                 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-26 13:37                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-06-26 15:02                     ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-26 16:15                     ` Mike Travis
2013-06-26 12:14       ` [RFC 2/2] x86_64, mm: Reinsert the absent memory Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 14:49         ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-26 15:12           ` Dave Hansen
2013-06-26 15:20             ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-26 15:58               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 16:11                 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-26 16:07         ` Mike Travis
2013-06-21 16:51 ` [RFC 0/2] Delay initializing of large sections of memory Greg KH
2013-06-21 17:03   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-21 17:18     ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 17:28       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-21 20:05         ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 20:08           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-21 20:33             ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 21:36             ` Mike Travis
2013-06-21 21:07       ` Mike Travis
2013-06-21 18:44     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-21 18:50       ` Greg KH
2013-06-21 19:10         ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-21 19:19           ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 20:28             ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-21 20:40               ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 21:30         ` Mike Travis
2013-06-22  0:23           ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-25 17:35             ` Mike Travis
2013-06-25 18:17               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 18:40                 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-25 18:40                 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-25 18:44                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 18:58                     ` Mike Travis
2013-06-25 19:03                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-25 19:09                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 19:28                           ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-27  6:37                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-27 11:05                         ` Robin Holt
2013-06-27 15:50                         ` Mike Travis
2013-06-26  9:23                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-25 18:38               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-25 18:42                 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-21 18:36 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-21 18:44   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-06-21 19:00     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-21 21:28       ` Mike Travis
2013-06-21 21:19   ` Mike Travis
2013-06-27  3:35 [RFC] Transparent on-demand memory setup initialization embedded in the (GFP) buddy allocator Daniel J Blueman
2013-06-28 20:37 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-29  7:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-29 18:03     ` Nathan Zimmer

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