From: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
To: Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>
Cc: <balbi@ti.com>, Vivek Gautam <gautamvivek1987@gmail.com>,
Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>, <bcousson@baylibre.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] usb: dwc3: adapt dwc3 core to use Generic PHY Framework
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 08:56:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131015135655.GK11380@radagast> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <525D47C3.207@ti.com>
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Hi,
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 04:48:51PM +0300, Roger Quadros wrote:
> On 10/15/2013 04:19 PM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 03:10:42PM +0300, Roger Quadros wrote:
> >>>>>>> @@ -665,6 +669,9 @@ struct dwc3 {
> >>>>>>> struct usb_phy *usb2_phy;
> >>>>>>> struct usb_phy *usb3_phy;
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> + struct phy *usb2_generic_phy;
> >>>>>>> + struct phy *usb3_generic_phy;
> >>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>> void __iomem *regs;
> >>>>>>> size_t regs_size;
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you have any suggestions on how to get only individual PHYs? like only
> >>>>> usb2phy or usb3phy?
> >>>>
> >>>> My earlier understanding was that both PHYs are needed only if .speed is "super-speed"
> >>>> and only usb2phy is needed for "high-speed". But as per Vivek's email it seems
> >>>> Samsung's exynos5 SoC doesn't need usb2phy for "super-speed".
> >>>>
> >>>> So to keeps things flexible, I can propose the following approach
> >>>> - if speed == 'high-speed' usb2phy must be present. usb3phy will be ignored if supplied.
> >>>> - if speed == 'super-speed' usb3phy must be present and usb2phy is optional but must be
> >>>> initialized if supplied.
> >>>> - if speed is not specified, we default to 'super-speed'.
> >>>>
> >>>> Felipe, does this address the issue you were facing with OMAP5?
> >>>
> >>> on OMAP5 we cannot skip USB3 PHY initialization. But then it becomes a
> >>> question of supporting a test feature (in OMAP5 case it would be cool to
> >>> force controller to lower speeds for testing) or coping with a broken
> >>> DTS.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I don't think we can protect ourselves from all possible broken
> >> configurations of DTS.
> >> I would vote for simplicity and maximum flexibility.
> >>
> >> So IMO we should just depend on DTS to provide the phys that are
> >> needed by the platform.
> >> In the driver we initialize whatever PHY is provided and don't
> >> complain if any or even all PHYs are missing.
> >
> > considering that DTS is an ABI, I really think eventually we *will* have
> > broken DTBs burned into ROM and we will have to find ways to work with
> > those too. Same thing already happens today with ACPI tables.
> >
> >> If this is not good enough then could you please suggest an
> >> alternative? Thanks.
> >
> > The alternative would be to mandate nop xceiv for the "missing" PHY, but
> > that doesn't solve anything, really, as DTS authors might still forget
> > about the NOP xceiv and you can argue that forcing NOP xceiv would be a
> > SW configuration.
> >
> > So, perhaps we go with the approach that all PHYs are optional, and
> > here's my original patch which makes USB3 PHY optional:
> >
> > commit 979b84f96e4b7559b596b2933ae198aba267f260
> > Author: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
> > Date: Sun Jun 30 18:39:23 2013 +0300
> >
> > usb: dwc3: core: make USB3 PHY optional
> >
> > If we want a port to work at any speed lower
> > than Superspeed, it makes no sense to even
> > initialize/power up the USB3 transceiver,
> > provided it won't be used.
> >
> > We can use the oportunity to save some power
> > and leave the superspeed transceiver powered
> > off.
> >
> > There is at least one such case which is
> > Texas Instruments' AM437x which has one
> > of its USB3 ports without a matching USB3
> > PHY (that port is hardwired to work on USB2
> > only).
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
> > index 74f9cf0..7a5ab93 100644
> > --- a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
> > +++ b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
> > @@ -387,16 +387,34 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> > if (node) {
> > dwc->maximum_speed = of_usb_get_maximum_speed(node);
> >
> > - dwc->usb2_phy = devm_usb_get_phy_by_phandle(dev, "usb-phy", 0);
> > - dwc->usb3_phy = devm_usb_get_phy_by_phandle(dev, "usb-phy", 1);
> > + switch (dwc->maximum_speed) {
> > + case USB_SPEED_SUPER:
> > + dwc->usb2_phy = devm_usb_get_phy_by_phandle(dev, "usb-phy", 0);
> > + dwc->usb3_phy = devm_usb_get_phy_by_phandle(dev, "usb-phy", 1);
> > + break;
> > + case USB_SPEED_HIGH:
> > + case USB_SPEED_FULL:
> > + case USB_SPEED_LOW:
> > + dwc->usb2_phy = devm_usb_get_phy_by_phandle(dev, "usb-phy", 0);
> > + break;
> > + }
> >
> > dwc->needs_fifo_resize = of_property_read_bool(node, "tx-fifo-resize");
> > dwc->dr_mode = of_usb_get_dr_mode(node);
> > } else if (pdata) {
> > dwc->maximum_speed = pdata->maximum_speed;
> >
> > - dwc->usb2_phy = devm_usb_get_phy(dev, USB_PHY_TYPE_USB2);
> > - dwc->usb3_phy = devm_usb_get_phy(dev, USB_PHY_TYPE_USB3);
> > + switch (dwc->maximum_speed) {
> > + case USB_SPEED_SUPER:
> > + dwc->usb2_phy = devm_usb_get_phy(dev, USB_PHY_TYPE_USB2);
> > + dwc->usb3_phy = devm_usb_get_phy(dev, USB_PHY_TYPE_USB3);
> > + break;
> > + case USB_SPEED_HIGH:
> > + case USB_SPEED_FULL:
> > + case USB_SPEED_LOW:
> > + dwc->usb2_phy = devm_usb_get_phy(dev, USB_PHY_TYPE_USB2);
> > + break;
> > + }
>
> What if we try to get both PHYs irrespective of 'maximum_speed' but based
> on presence of phandle/pdata. That way there is some control in the adaptation code (dts/pdata)
> as to which PHYs needs to be initialized for that particular instance.
>
> This is because there doesn't seem to be a consensus between different designs.
> e.g. omap5 needs both phys for 'high-speed' whereas exynos5250 needs just the
> usb3 phy for 'super-speed'
sure, can you write such a patch ? If it gets to my inbox in a couple
hours I guess I can still review and take it upstream on v3.13,
otherwise it's only on v3.14 :-(
>
> >
> > dwc->needs_fifo_resize = pdata->tx_fifo_resize;
> > dwc->dr_mode = pdata->dr_mode;
> > @@ -424,19 +442,21 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> > return -EPROBE_DEFER;
> > }
> >
> > - if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb3_phy)) {
> > - ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb3_phy);
> > + if (dwc->maximum_speed == USB_SPEED_SUPER) {
> > + if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb3_phy)) {
> > + ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb3_phy);
> >
> > - /*
> > - * if -ENXIO is returned, it means PHY layer wasn't
> > - * enabled, so it makes no sense to return -EPROBE_DEFER
> > - * in that case, since no PHY driver will ever probe.
> > - */
> > - if (ret == -ENXIO)
> > - return ret;
> > + /*
> > + * if -ENXIO is returned, it means PHY layer wasn't
> > + * enabled, so it makes no sense to return -EPROBE_DEFER
> > + * in that case, since no PHY driver will ever probe.
> > + */
> > + if (ret == -ENXIO)
> > + return ret;
> >
> > - dev_err(dev, "no usb3 phy configured\n");
> > - return -EPROBE_DEFER;
> > + dev_err(dev, "no usb3 phy configured\n");
> > + return -EPROBE_DEFER;
> > + }
> > }
> >
> > dwc->xhci_resources[0].start = res->start;
> >
> >
> > what you guys are saying though, is that every PHY should be optional.
> >
> > Do we have any device which doesn't provide USB2 PHY, only USB3 ? Dude,
> > that's so non-standard! USB *must* be backwards compatible so I'd expect
> > USB2 PHY to always be available.
> >
>
> Maybe the USB2 PHY hardware is there on the Exynos5250 but it just
> doesn't have discrete power control. Vivek?
I'd really like to hear that answer :-) But patch can come before that,
though.
cheers
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balbi
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-15 13:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-02 15:43 [PATCH 0/7] Make dwc3 use Generic PHY Framework and misc cleanup Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-02 15:43 ` [PATCH 1/7] usb: dwc3: get "usb_phy" only if the platform indicates the presence of PHY Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-12 10:36 ` Roger Quadros
2013-09-12 10:47 ` Vivek Gautam
2013-09-12 11:04 ` Roger Quadros
2013-09-12 11:26 ` Vivek Gautam
2013-09-12 13:11 ` Roger Quadros
2013-09-16 8:40 ` Vivek Gautam
2013-09-17 15:45 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-09-02 15:43 ` [PATCH 2/7] usb: dwc3: adapt dwc3 core to use Generic PHY Framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-12 9:27 ` Vivek Gautam
2013-09-12 10:10 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-12 10:27 ` Vivek Gautam
2013-10-10 10:28 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-12 13:19 ` Roger Quadros
2013-09-16 2:52 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-16 7:25 ` Roger Quadros
2013-10-11 15:09 ` Roger Quadros
2013-10-14 9:26 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-10-14 10:21 ` Roger Quadros
2013-10-15 5:31 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-10-15 7:57 ` Roger Quadros
2013-10-15 12:00 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-10-15 11:58 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-10-15 11:57 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-10-15 12:10 ` Roger Quadros
2013-10-15 13:19 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-10-15 13:48 ` Roger Quadros
2013-10-15 13:56 ` Felipe Balbi [this message]
2013-10-15 14:03 ` Roger Quadros
2013-10-15 14:12 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-09-02 15:43 ` [PATCH 3/7] drivers: phy: usb3/pipe3: Adapt pipe3 driver to " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-12 11:19 ` Roger Quadros
2013-09-16 3:01 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-16 7:37 ` Roger Quadros
2013-10-11 15:02 ` Roger Quadros
2013-10-14 9:19 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-10-14 9:31 ` Roger Quadros
2013-09-02 15:43 ` [PATCH 4/7] Documentation: dt bindings: move ..usb/usb-phy.txt to ..phy/omap-phy.txt Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-12 13:23 ` Roger Quadros
2013-09-16 3:04 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-02 15:43 ` [PATCH 5/7] phy: omap-usb2: move omap_usb.h from linux/usb/ to linux/phy/ Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-02 15:43 ` [PATCH 6/7] arm/dts: added dt properties to adapt to the new phy framwork Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-12 13:28 ` Roger Quadros
2013-09-02 15:43 ` [PATCH 7/7] drivers: phy: renamed struct omap_control_usb to struct omap_control_phy Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-09-12 13:42 ` Roger Quadros
2013-09-16 3:06 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
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