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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, anton@samba.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux PPC dev <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	Victor Kaplansky <VICTORK@il.ibm.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	michael@ellerman.id.au
Subject: Re: perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:37:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131025173749.GG19466@laptop.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131023141948.GB3566@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 03:19:51PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:54:54AM +1100, Michael Neuling wrote:
> > Frederic,
> > 
> > The comment says atomic_dec_and_test() but the code is
> > local_dec_and_test().
> > 
> > On powerpc, local_dec_and_test() doesn't have a memory barrier but
> > atomic_dec_and_test() does.  Is the comment wrong, or is
> > local_dec_and_test() suppose to imply a memory barrier too and we have
> > it wrongly implemented in powerpc?

My bad; I converted from atomic to local without actually thinking it
seems. Your implementation of the local primitives is fine.

> > diff --git a/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c b/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c
> > index cd55144..95768c6 100644
> > --- a/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c
> > +++ b/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c
> > @@ -87,10 +87,10 @@ again:
> >  		goto out;
> >  
> >  	/*
> > -	 * Publish the known good head. Rely on the full barrier implied
> > -	 * by atomic_dec_and_test() order the rb->head read and this
> > -	 * write.
> > +	 * Publish the known good head. We need a memory barrier to order the
> > +	 * order the rb->head read and this write.
> >  	 */
> > +	smp_mb ();
> >  	rb->user_page->data_head = head;
> >  
> >  	/*

Right; so that would indeed be what the comment suggests it should be.
However I think the comment is now actively wrong too :-)

Since on the kernel side the buffer is strictly per-cpu, we don't need
memory barriers there.

> I think we want this ordering:
> 
>     Kernel                             User
> 
>    READ rb->user_page->data_tail       READ rb->user_page->data_head
>    smp_mb()                            smp_mb()
>    WRITE rb data                       READ rb  data
>    smp_mb()                            smp_mb()
>    rb->user_page->data_head            WRITE rb->user_page->data_tail
> 

I would argue for:

  READ ->data_tail			READ ->data_head
  smp_rmb()	(A)			smp_rmb()	(C)
  WRITE $data				READ $data
  smp_wmb()	(B)			smp_mb()	(D)
  STORE ->data_head			WRITE ->data_tail

Where A pairs with D, and B pairs with C.

I don't think A needs to be a full barrier because we won't in fact
write data until we see the store from userspace. So we simply don't
issue the data WRITE until we observe it.

OTOH, D needs to be a full barrier since it separates the data READ from
the tail WRITE.

For B a WMB is sufficient since it separates two WRITEs, and for C an
RMB is sufficient since it separates two READs.

---
 kernel/events/ring_buffer.c | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c b/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c
index cd55144270b5..c91274ef4e23 100644
--- a/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c
+++ b/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c
@@ -87,10 +87,31 @@ static void perf_output_put_handle(struct perf_output_handle *handle)
 		goto out;
 
 	/*
-	 * Publish the known good head. Rely on the full barrier implied
-	 * by atomic_dec_and_test() order the rb->head read and this
-	 * write.
+	 * Since the mmap() consumer (userspace) can run on a different CPU:
+	 *
+	 *   kernel				user
+	 *
+	 *   READ ->data_tail			READ ->data_head
+	 *   smp_rmb()	(A)			smp_rmb()	(C)
+	 *   WRITE $data			READ $data
+	 *   smp_wmb()	(B)			smp_mb()	(D)
+	 *   STORE ->data_head			WRITE ->data_tail
+	 * 
+	 * Where A pairs with D, and B pairs with C.
+	 * 
+	 * I don't think A needs to be a full barrier because we won't in fact
+	 * write data until we see the store from userspace. So we simply don't
+	 * issue the data WRITE until we observe it.
+	 * 
+	 * OTOH, D needs to be a full barrier since it separates the data READ
+	 * from the tail WRITE.
+	 * 
+	 * For B a WMB is sufficient since it separates two WRITEs, and for C
+	 * an RMB is sufficient since it separates two READs.
+	 *
+	 * See perf_output_begin().
 	 */
+	smp_wmb();
 	rb->user_page->data_head = head;
 
 	/*
@@ -154,6 +175,8 @@ int perf_output_begin(struct perf_output_handle *handle,
 		 * Userspace could choose to issue a mb() before updating the
 		 * tail pointer. So that all reads will be completed before the
 		 * write is issued.
+		 *
+		 * See perf_output_put_handle().
 		 */
 		tail = ACCESS_ONCE(rb->user_page->data_tail);
 		smp_rmb();

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-25 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-22 23:54 perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc Michael Neuling
2013-10-23  7:39 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-23 14:19 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-23 14:25   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-25 17:37   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-10-25 20:31     ` Michael Neuling
2013-10-27  9:00     ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-28  9:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-28 10:02     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-28 12:38       ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-28 13:26         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-28 16:34           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-28 20:17             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-10-28 20:58               ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-29 10:21                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-29 10:30                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-29 10:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-29 20:15                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-10-29 19:27                     ` Vince Weaver
2013-10-30 10:42                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-30 11:48                         ` James Hogan
2013-10-30 12:48                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 13:19                         ` [tip:perf/core] tools/perf: Add required memory barriers tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 13:50                           ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-06 14:00                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 14:28                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 14:55                                 ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-06 15:10                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 15:23                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 14:44                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 16:07                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 17:31                                   ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-06 18:24                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-07  8:21                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-07 14:27                                         ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-07 15:55                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 16:24                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 21:10                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-29 21:23                     ` perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc Michael Neuling
2013-10-30  9:27                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-30 11:25                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-30 14:52                     ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-30 15:39                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-30 17:14                         ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-30 17:44                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-31  6:16                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 13:12                         ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-11-02 16:36                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-02 17:26                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31  6:40                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 14:25                       ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-11-02 17:28                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 14:56                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-02 17:32                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-03 14:40                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-03 15:17                             ` [RFC] arch: Introduce new TSO memory barrier smp_tmb() Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-03 18:08                               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-03 20:01                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-03 22:42                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-03 23:34                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-04 10:51                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-04 11:22                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-04 16:27                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-04 16:48                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-04 19:11                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-04 19:18                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-04 20:54                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-04 20:53                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-05 14:05                                                 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-05 14:49                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-05 18:49                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 11:00                                                     ` Will Deacon
2013-11-06 12:39                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 12:51                                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-06 13:57                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 18:48                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-06 19:42                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-07 11:17                                                       ` Will Deacon
2013-11-07 13:36                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-07 23:50                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-11-04 11:05                                       ` Will Deacon
2013-11-04 16:34                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-03 20:59                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-03 22:43                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-03 17:07                             ` perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc Will Deacon
2013-11-03 22:47                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-04  9:57                                 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-04 10:52                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 16:11                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-02 17:46                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 16:18                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-02 17:49                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-30 13:28                   ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-30 15:51                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-30 18:29                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-30 19:11                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-31  4:33                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31  4:32                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31  9:04                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-31 15:07                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31 15:19                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-01  9:28                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 10:30                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-02 15:20                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-04  9:07                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-04 10:00                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31  9:59                       ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-31 12:28                         ` David Laight
2013-10-31 12:55                           ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-31 15:25                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 16:06                           ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-11-01 16:25                             ` David Laight
2013-11-01 16:30                               ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-11-03 20:57                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-02 15:46                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-28 19:09           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-10-29 14:06     ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix perf ring buffer memory ordering tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-08 20:46 perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc Mikulas Patocka
     [not found] ` <OF667059AA.7F151BCC-ONC2257CD3.0036CFEB-C2257CD3.003BBF01@il.ibm.com>
2014-05-09 12:20   ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-05-09 13:47     ` Paul E. McKenney

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