From: "David Laight" <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: "Victor Kaplansky" <VICTORK@il.ibm.com>, <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Michael Neuling" <mikey@neuling.org>,
"Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>,
"Linux PPC dev" <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
"Anton Blanchard" <anton@samba.org>,
"Frederic Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 16:25:29 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AE90C24D6B3A694183C094C60CF0A2F6026B73D4@saturn3.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF3CB471BA.BACC7843-ON42257C16.0055EF23-42257C16.0058875B@il.ibm.com>
> But "broken" compiler is much wider issue to be deeply discussed in this
> thread. I'm pretty sure that kernel have tons of very subtle
> code that actually creates locks and memory ordering. Such code
> usually just use the "barrier()" approach to tell gcc not to combine
> or move memory accesses around it.
gcc will do unexpected memory accesses for bit fields that are
adjacent to volatile data.
In particular it may generate 64bit sized (and aligned) RMW cycles
when accessing bit fields.
And yes, this has caused real problems.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-01 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-22 23:54 perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc Michael Neuling
2013-10-23 7:39 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-23 14:19 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-23 14:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-25 17:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-25 20:31 ` Michael Neuling
2013-10-27 9:00 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-28 9:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-28 10:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-28 12:38 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-28 13:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-28 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-28 20:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-10-28 20:58 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-29 10:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-29 10:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-29 10:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-29 20:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-10-29 19:27 ` Vince Weaver
2013-10-30 10:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-30 11:48 ` James Hogan
2013-10-30 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 13:19 ` [tip:perf/core] tools/perf: Add required memory barriers tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 13:50 ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-06 14:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 14:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 14:55 ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-06 15:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 15:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 14:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 16:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 17:31 ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-06 18:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-07 8:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-07 14:27 ` Vince Weaver
2013-11-07 15:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 21:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-29 21:23 ` perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc Michael Neuling
2013-10-30 9:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-30 11:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-30 14:52 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-30 15:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-30 17:14 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-30 17:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-31 6:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 13:12 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-11-02 16:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-02 17:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31 6:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 14:25 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-11-02 17:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-02 17:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-03 14:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-03 15:17 ` [RFC] arch: Introduce new TSO memory barrier smp_tmb() Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-03 18:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-03 20:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-03 22:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-03 23:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-04 10:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-04 11:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-04 16:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-04 16:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-04 19:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-04 19:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-04 20:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-04 20:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-05 14:05 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-05 14:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-05 18:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 11:00 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-06 12:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 12:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-06 13:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-06 18:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-06 19:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-07 11:17 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-07 13:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-07 23:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-11-04 11:05 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-04 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-03 20:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-03 22:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-03 17:07 ` perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc Will Deacon
2013-11-03 22:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-04 9:57 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-04 10:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 16:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-02 17:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-02 17:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-30 13:28 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-30 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-30 18:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-30 19:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-31 4:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31 4:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31 9:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-31 15:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31 15:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-01 9:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 10:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-02 15:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-04 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-04 10:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31 9:59 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-31 12:28 ` David Laight
2013-10-31 12:55 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-10-31 15:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-01 16:06 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-11-01 16:25 ` David Laight [this message]
2013-11-01 16:30 ` Victor Kaplansky
2013-11-03 20:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-02 15:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-28 19:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-10-29 14:06 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix perf ring buffer memory ordering tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-08 20:46 perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc Mikulas Patocka
[not found] ` <OF667059AA.7F151BCC-ONC2257CD3.0036CFEB-C2257CD3.003BBF01@il.ibm.com>
2014-05-09 12:20 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-05-09 13:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
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