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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: andi@firstfloor.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tom.zanussi@linux.intel.com,
	ak@linux.intel.com, robert.olsson@its.uu.se
Subject: Re: [PATCH 22/24] net, diet: Support simpler routing table
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 05:08:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140506030833.GL2382@two.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140505.230259.1803147080660592366.davem@davemloft.net>

On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 11:02:59PM -0400, David Miller wrote:
> From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
> Date: Mon,  5 May 2014 15:26:11 -0700
> 
> > Add an optional fib_list that uses a simple list to store routes.
> > This is suitable for single homed client system which typically
> > have only a handful of routes.
> 
> Sorry I'm not applying this.
> 
> We had two routing table implementations for some time and it sucked,
> it meant two code paths and two places for bugs to hide.

FWIW it seems to me the trie code is very stable, there doesn't
seem to be any big changes in a long time.

> 
> I want only one data structure which does the job well, and we have
> that now.

I don't see any good way to slim the trie code down. Do you?

It's just inherently complex. Yes on many systems it's a good thing,
and the complexity is justified,
but on the tiny systems the bloat and code size just hurts.

If we can't get the bloat down these users will just desert us to lwip ...

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-06  3:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-05 22:25 RFC: A reduced Linux network stack for small systems Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 01/24] net, diet: Reduce netdev name hash table for CONFIG_BASE_SMALL Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:03   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 02/24] net, diet: Reduce NAPI " Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 03/24] net, diet: Decrease ip defrag hash tables and max length with BASE_SMALL Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 04/24] net, diet: Make FIB hash tables smaller with CONFIG_BASE_SMALL Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:10   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 05/24] net, diet: Default to small TCP hash tables on small kernels Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:12   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 06/24] net, diet: Use small UDP " Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:11   ` David Miller
2014-05-06 14:26   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-06 18:23     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 19:25       ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 07/24] net, diet: Make ping sockets optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:04   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 08/24] net, diet: Make TCP metrics optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 23:18   ` Yuchung Cheng
2014-05-05 23:28     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:12   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:21     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:23       ` David Miller
2014-05-06  4:39         ` Tom Zanussi
2014-05-07 13:59           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-05-07 17:20             ` David Miller
2014-05-07 22:19               ` Tim Bird
2014-05-07 22:52                 ` David Miller
2014-05-06 15:57         ` josh
2014-05-06 15:59           ` David Miller
2014-05-06 16:41             ` josh
2014-05-06 17:12               ` Rick Jones
2014-05-06 18:09                 ` josh
2014-05-06 17:16               ` David Miller
2014-05-06 17:55                 ` josh
2014-05-06 18:33                   ` Cong Wang
2014-05-06 18:48                     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 19:19                     ` Richard Cochran
2014-05-06 20:44                     ` David Miller
2014-05-06 21:08                       ` josh
2014-05-06 21:11                         ` David Miller
2014-05-06 22:50                           ` josh
2014-05-06 23:27                             ` Eric Dumazet
2014-06-14 20:33                     ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-23 10:17                     ` zhuyj
2014-05-06 19:14               ` Richard Cochran
2014-05-06 19:50                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 20:07                   ` Richard Cochran
2014-05-06 21:05                     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 23:29                       ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-07  4:33                         ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 20:46                   ` David Miller
2014-05-07  8:39               ` David Laight
2014-05-09  9:48             ` Pavel Machek
2014-05-06 16:39           ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-06 16:45             ` josh
2014-05-06 17:03               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-06 17:30                 ` josh
2014-05-06 17:17               ` David Miller
2014-05-06 17:21                 ` josh
2014-05-06 17:25                   ` David Miller
2014-05-06 20:06                     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 20:47                       ` David Miller
2014-05-06 20:11                     ` josh
2014-05-06 20:44                       ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 17:14             ` David Miller
2014-05-06 18:32             ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 18:58               ` Tom Herbert
2014-05-06 19:37                 ` josh
2014-05-06 19:57                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 20:17               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-06 20:27                 ` josh
2014-05-06 20:37                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 20:48                 ` David Miller
2014-05-07 13:35                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-05-13 16:22                   ` Christer Weinigel
2014-05-09  7:38     ` Pavel Machek
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 09/24] net, diet: Make ethtool optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:11   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:14     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:22       ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 10/24] net, diet: Make LPF filter optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:10   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 11/24] net, diet: Move rtnl_lock to separate file Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 12/24] net, diet: Make rtnetlink optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:08   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:11     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 13/24] net, diet: Make GRO offload optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:01   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:03     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 14/24] net, diet: Make MIB statistics collections depend on PROC_FS Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:05   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 15/24] net, diet: Make igmp and mcast ioctls depend on IP_MULTICAST Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 16/24] net, diet: Make TCP fastopen optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:06   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 17/24] net, diet: Make internal control sockets use UDP Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 18/24] net, diet: Make raw sockets optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:12   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 19/24] net, diet: Make RPS configurable Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:14   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:16     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  8:32   ` Bjørn Mork
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 20/24] net, diet: Make XPS configurable Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 21/24] net, diet: Make packet tpacket/mmap/fanout/rings optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:09   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 22/24] net, diet: Support simpler routing table Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:02   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:08     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2014-05-06  3:21       ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 23/24] net, diet: Add coccinelle script to convert drivers to ETHTOOL_OPS Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  9:27   ` Nicolas Palix
2014-05-06 15:05     ` David Miller
2014-05-07  0:18       ` Wilfried Klaebe
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 24/24] net, diet: Convert all drivers to use SET_ETHTOOL_OPS Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  7:25 ` RFC: A reduced Linux network stack for small systems Richard Weinberger
2014-05-06 13:34   ` Tom Zanussi
2014-05-06 15:20     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-05-06 15:34       ` Tom Zanussi
2014-05-06 17:20         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-05-06 20:00           ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 21:05             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-05-09  7:39           ` Pavel Machek
2014-05-09  7:38       ` Pavel Machek
2014-05-06  9:18 ` David Laight
2014-05-07 13:20   ` One Thousand Gnomes

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