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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@linux.intel.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: A reduced Linux network stack for small systems
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 09:38:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140509073847.GD4965@xo-6d-61-c0.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQLYiNfXRrXc=VZkGEFDbNhF63AzPg6Gyu6P1SF=6AiO7g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

> > wants to build it and try it out:
> >
> > https://github.com/tzanussi/meta-galileo/blob/daisy/meta-galileo/README
> >
> > It's very much a work-in-progress with a lot of rough edges, but it is a
> > fully functional system on real hardware (Galileo board/Quark processor)
> > with a usable shell (ps too!) and web server running on a kernel with
> > native networking and ~ 750k text size.
> 
> Intel Galileo datasheet says:
> - 400MHz 32bit Intel
> - 512 KBytes of on-die embedded SRAM
> - 256 MByte DRAM, enabled by the firmware by default
> 
> where did 2-4Mbyte restriction come from?
> 
> Anyway, with all these hacks you get a half functional kernel with "a
> lot of rough edges"
> that is likely working only for the given very limited set of applications.
> Kernel function profiling can potentially achieve the same thing.
> Profile the kernel with the set of apps and then prune all cold
> functions out of kernel.

That does not really work, right? As soon attacker triggers some error path
you did not trigger in testing, your machine dies.

That no longer qualifies as functional kernel.

									Pavel
-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-09  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-05 22:25 RFC: A reduced Linux network stack for small systems Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 01/24] net, diet: Reduce netdev name hash table for CONFIG_BASE_SMALL Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:03   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 02/24] net, diet: Reduce NAPI " Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 03/24] net, diet: Decrease ip defrag hash tables and max length with BASE_SMALL Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 04/24] net, diet: Make FIB hash tables smaller with CONFIG_BASE_SMALL Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:10   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 05/24] net, diet: Default to small TCP hash tables on small kernels Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:12   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 06/24] net, diet: Use small UDP " Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:11   ` David Miller
2014-05-06 14:26   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-06 18:23     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 19:25       ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 07/24] net, diet: Make ping sockets optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:04   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 08/24] net, diet: Make TCP metrics optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 23:18   ` Yuchung Cheng
2014-05-05 23:28     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:12   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:21     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:23       ` David Miller
2014-05-06  4:39         ` Tom Zanussi
2014-05-07 13:59           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-05-07 17:20             ` David Miller
2014-05-07 22:19               ` Tim Bird
2014-05-07 22:52                 ` David Miller
2014-05-06 15:57         ` josh
2014-05-06 15:59           ` David Miller
2014-05-06 16:41             ` josh
2014-05-06 17:12               ` Rick Jones
2014-05-06 18:09                 ` josh
2014-05-06 17:16               ` David Miller
2014-05-06 17:55                 ` josh
2014-05-06 18:33                   ` Cong Wang
2014-05-06 18:48                     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 19:19                     ` Richard Cochran
2014-05-06 20:44                     ` David Miller
2014-05-06 21:08                       ` josh
2014-05-06 21:11                         ` David Miller
2014-05-06 22:50                           ` josh
2014-05-06 23:27                             ` Eric Dumazet
2014-06-14 20:33                     ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-23 10:17                     ` zhuyj
2014-05-06 19:14               ` Richard Cochran
2014-05-06 19:50                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 20:07                   ` Richard Cochran
2014-05-06 21:05                     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 23:29                       ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-07  4:33                         ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 20:46                   ` David Miller
2014-05-07  8:39               ` David Laight
2014-05-09  9:48             ` Pavel Machek
2014-05-06 16:39           ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-06 16:45             ` josh
2014-05-06 17:03               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-06 17:30                 ` josh
2014-05-06 17:17               ` David Miller
2014-05-06 17:21                 ` josh
2014-05-06 17:25                   ` David Miller
2014-05-06 20:06                     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 20:47                       ` David Miller
2014-05-06 20:11                     ` josh
2014-05-06 20:44                       ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 17:14             ` David Miller
2014-05-06 18:32             ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 18:58               ` Tom Herbert
2014-05-06 19:37                 ` josh
2014-05-06 19:57                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 20:17               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-06 20:27                 ` josh
2014-05-06 20:37                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 20:48                 ` David Miller
2014-05-07 13:35                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-05-13 16:22                   ` Christer Weinigel
2014-05-09  7:38     ` Pavel Machek
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 09/24] net, diet: Make ethtool optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:11   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:14     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:22       ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:25 ` [PATCH 10/24] net, diet: Make LPF filter optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:10   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 11/24] net, diet: Move rtnl_lock to separate file Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 12/24] net, diet: Make rtnetlink optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:08   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:11     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 13/24] net, diet: Make GRO offload optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:01   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:03     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 14/24] net, diet: Make MIB statistics collections depend on PROC_FS Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:05   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 15/24] net, diet: Make igmp and mcast ioctls depend on IP_MULTICAST Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 16/24] net, diet: Make TCP fastopen optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:06   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 17/24] net, diet: Make internal control sockets use UDP Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 18/24] net, diet: Make raw sockets optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:12   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 19/24] net, diet: Make RPS configurable Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:14   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:16     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  8:32   ` Bjørn Mork
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 20/24] net, diet: Make XPS configurable Andi Kleen
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 21/24] net, diet: Make packet tpacket/mmap/fanout/rings optional Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:09   ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 22/24] net, diet: Support simpler routing table Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:02   ` David Miller
2014-05-06  3:08     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  3:21       ` David Miller
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 23/24] net, diet: Add coccinelle script to convert drivers to ETHTOOL_OPS Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  9:27   ` Nicolas Palix
2014-05-06 15:05     ` David Miller
2014-05-07  0:18       ` Wilfried Klaebe
2014-05-05 22:26 ` [PATCH 24/24] net, diet: Convert all drivers to use SET_ETHTOOL_OPS Andi Kleen
2014-05-06  7:25 ` RFC: A reduced Linux network stack for small systems Richard Weinberger
2014-05-06 13:34   ` Tom Zanussi
2014-05-06 15:20     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-05-06 15:34       ` Tom Zanussi
2014-05-06 17:20         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-05-06 20:00           ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-06 21:05             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-05-09  7:39           ` Pavel Machek
2014-05-09  7:38       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2014-05-06  9:18 ` David Laight
2014-05-07 13:20   ` One Thousand Gnomes

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