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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Mateusz Guzik <mguzik@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com>, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Eric Sandeen <esandeen@redhat.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 2/2] fs: print a message when freezing/unfreezing filesystems
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 08:00:52 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140514220052.GD5421@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140514113945.GC5824@quack.suse.cz>

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 01:39:45PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 14-05-14 13:26:21, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 01:14:49PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Wed 14-05-14 00:04:43, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> > > > This helps hang troubleshooting efforts when only dmesg is available.
> > > > 
> > > > While here remove code duplication with MS_RDONLY case and fix a
> > > > whitespace nit.
> > >   I'm somewhat undecided here I have to say. On one hand I don't like
> > > printing to kernel log when everything is fine and kernel is operating
> > > normally. On the other hand I've seen quite a few cases where people have
> > > shot themselves in the foot with filesystem freezing so having some trace
> > > of this in the log doesn't seem like a completely bad thing either. What do
> > > other people think?
> > > 
> > 
> > I would like to note that the kernel already prints messages when e.g.
> > filesystems get mounted.
>   Yeah, that's a fair point.

But filesystems choose to output that info, not the VFS. When you do
a remount,ro there is no output in syslog, because filesystems don't
need to dump any output - the state change is reflected in
/proc/self/mounts. IMO frozen should state should be communicated
the same way so that it is silent when it just works, and the state
can easily be determined when something goes wrong.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-14 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-13 22:04 [PATCH V2 1/2] fs: include device name in error messages about freezing Mateusz Guzik
2014-05-13 22:04 ` [PATCH V2 2/2] fs: print a message when freezing/unfreezing filesystems Mateusz Guzik
2014-05-14 11:14   ` Jan Kara
2014-05-14 11:26     ` Mateusz Guzik
2014-05-14 11:39       ` Jan Kara
2014-05-14 22:00         ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2014-05-14 22:37           ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-14 22:40             ` Eric Sandeen
2014-05-15 10:40               ` Lukáš Czerner
2014-05-15 10:47                 ` Mateusz Guzik
2014-05-15 22:21                   ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-15 22:34                     ` Mateusz Guzik
2014-05-15 22:51                       ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-15 23:19                         ` Mateusz Guzik
2014-05-16  0:11                           ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-16  0:39                             ` Mateusz Guzik
2014-05-19  9:43                             ` Jan Kara
2014-05-19 23:37                               ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-15 10:13             ` Jan Kara
2014-05-15 22:16               ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-14 11:58     ` Lukáš Czerner
2014-05-14 11:10 ` [PATCH V2 1/2] fs: include device name in error messages about freezing Jan Kara
2014-05-14 22:07   ` Dave Chinner

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