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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Jen-Cheng(Tommy) Huang" <tommy24@gatech.edu>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] perf: Remove redundant parent context check from context_equiv
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:32:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140908123200.GC17728@krava.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140908113958.GT3588@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 01:39:58PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 12:01:22PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 11:48:55AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > 
> > > > The thing is; I don't understand those reasons. That commit log doesn't
> > > > explain.
> > > 
> > > Ah wait, I finally see. I think we want to fix that exit path, not
> > > disallow the cloning.
> > > 
> > > The thing is, by not allowing this optimization simple things like eg.
> > > pipe-test say very expensive.
> > 
> > So its 179033b3e064 ("perf: Add PERF_EVENT_STATE_EXIT state for events
> > with exited task") that introduces the problem. Before that things would
> > work correctly afaict.
> > 
> > The exit would remove from the context but leave the event in existence.
> > Both the fd and the inherited events would have references to it, only
> > once those are gone do we destroy the actual event.
> 
> I have another 'problem' with 179033b3e064. What if you 'want' to
> continue monitoring after the initial task died? Eg. if you want to
> monitor crap that unconditionally daemonizes.
> 
> So at this point I would suggest we revert both 179033b3e064 and
> 1f9a7268c67f so that the context switch optimization works again for
> simple 2 task things (pipe-test).
> 
> If we re-introduce 179033b3e064 (which I think makes sense) we need to
> make sure it works with the context switch optimization (we could add
> perf_event::task I think, it would clean up a few other things iirc) and
> we'd have to make it conditional so we can still monitor daemons.
> 
> Or am I totally missing things again?

as I said in previous email I dont think the 179033b3e064 introduced
the issue and I think we should keep 1f9a7268c67f to have correct
numbers ;-)

I'll think about the fix to keep non-cloned context in optimized switch

jirka

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-08 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-25 14:45 [RFCv2 0/9] perf: Allow leader sampling on inherited events Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 1/9] perf: Remove redundant parent context check from context_equiv Jiri Olsa
2014-09-02 10:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08  9:43     ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-08  9:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08  9:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 10:01           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 11:39             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 12:19               ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-08 13:20                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 12:32               ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2014-09-08 12:01             ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-08 13:34               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 15:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 16:45                   ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-09 10:20                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-10 13:57                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-10 14:35                       ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-24 14:58                         ` [tip:perf/core] Revert "perf: Do not allow optimized switch for non-cloned events" tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 2/9] perf: Deny optimized switch for events read by PERF_SAMPLE_READ Jiri Olsa
2014-09-02 10:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 10:00     ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-08 10:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 16:39         ` Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 3/9] perf: Allow PERF_FORMAT_GROUP format on inherited events Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 4/9] perf tools: Add support to traverse xyarrays Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 5/9] perf tools: Add pr_warning_once debug macro Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 6/9] perf tools: Add hash of periods for struct perf_sample_id Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 7/9] perf tools: Allow PERF_FORMAT_GROUP for inherited events Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 8/9] perf script: Add period data column Jiri Olsa
2014-08-27 14:33   ` David Ahern
2014-10-17 16:10     ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-17 18:22       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-18  7:07   ` [tip:perf/urgent] " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 9/9] perf script: Add period as a default output column Jiri Olsa
2014-08-27 14:40   ` David Ahern
2014-10-17 16:11     ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-18  7:07   ` [tip:perf/urgent] " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:51 ` [RFCv2 0/9] perf: Allow leader sampling on inherited events Jiri Olsa

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