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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Jen-Cheng(Tommy) Huang" <tommy24@gatech.edu>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] perf: Deny optimized switch for events read by PERF_SAMPLE_READ
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:39:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140908163933.GI17728@krava.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140908101119.GB6758@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 12:11:19PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 12:00:19PM +0200, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> 
> > > no.. so the value of the counter is the sum of all the inherited events.
> > > It doesn't matter if you flip it or not the sum is not affected.
> > > 
> > > PERF_SAMPLE_READ should return the value.
> > 
> > so I want to be able to do the leader sampling over child processes
> > that means:
> >   - have event group with sampling leader, and the rest
> >     of the group events' periods being read on leader's sample
> >     via PERF_SAMPLE_READ sample_type
> >   - for each child process created I want it to do the
> >     same thing as the parent - sample on leader, read
> >     values of other events in group via PERF_SAMPLE_READ
> 
> The thing is, PERF_SAMPLE_READ should return the exact same thing as an
> actual read(), and for read() the value reported is the sum of all
> events.

maybe we could make this configurable? like via new per_event_attr::option bit,
keeping by default the behaviour you said

> 
> I _think_ I know what you want, and I think I see why you'd want that,
> but I'm not sure how to best do that.. Hmm.. maybe look at
> 'perf_event_attr::inherit_stat' that appears to be similar.
> 
> At which point read() vs inherit_stat might be 'broken'. Hard to know if
> anybody uses that :-(

I'll check, thanks

jirka

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-08 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-25 14:45 [RFCv2 0/9] perf: Allow leader sampling on inherited events Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 1/9] perf: Remove redundant parent context check from context_equiv Jiri Olsa
2014-09-02 10:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08  9:43     ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-08  9:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08  9:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 10:01           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 11:39             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 12:19               ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-08 13:20                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 12:32               ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-08 12:01             ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-08 13:34               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 15:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 16:45                   ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-09 10:20                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-10 13:57                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-10 14:35                       ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-24 14:58                         ` [tip:perf/core] Revert "perf: Do not allow optimized switch for non-cloned events" tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 2/9] perf: Deny optimized switch for events read by PERF_SAMPLE_READ Jiri Olsa
2014-09-02 10:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 10:00     ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-08 10:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 16:39         ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 3/9] perf: Allow PERF_FORMAT_GROUP format on inherited events Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 4/9] perf tools: Add support to traverse xyarrays Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 5/9] perf tools: Add pr_warning_once debug macro Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 6/9] perf tools: Add hash of periods for struct perf_sample_id Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 7/9] perf tools: Allow PERF_FORMAT_GROUP for inherited events Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 8/9] perf script: Add period data column Jiri Olsa
2014-08-27 14:33   ` David Ahern
2014-10-17 16:10     ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-17 18:22       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-18  7:07   ` [tip:perf/urgent] " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 9/9] perf script: Add period as a default output column Jiri Olsa
2014-08-27 14:40   ` David Ahern
2014-10-17 16:11     ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-18  7:07   ` [tip:perf/urgent] " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2014-08-25 14:51 ` [RFCv2 0/9] perf: Allow leader sampling on inherited events Jiri Olsa

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