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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/24] link_path_walk: kill the recursion
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 22:32:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150420213247.GN889@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwP_zR8ETgmX-AfpSzG+B6+FZnaJ+_DFiOmKxEAd5=tkg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 02:04:53PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> That said, you then introduce a stack-allocated "struct saved stack[]"
> in path_mountpoint[] instead, *and* nameidata is saved on stack, so
> this all ends up being very stack-intensive anyway.
> 
> I might have missed some patch here, but would it be possible to just
> allocate a single per-thread nameidata, and just leave it at that?
> Because allocating that thing on the stack when it contains what is
> now one kilobyte of array data is *not* acceptable.

What kilobyte?  It's 9*4 pointers, IOW, 288 bytes total (assuming 64bit box).
And nd->saved_names[] goes away, so scratch 9 pointers we used to have.  Sure,
we can allocate that dynamically (or hold a couple of elements on stack and
allocate when/if we overgrow that), but it's not particularly large win.

Breakeven point is circa the second level of nesting - symlink met when
traversing a symlink...  That - on amd64; on something with fatter stack
frames I would expect the comparison to be even worse for mainline...

We need to preserve 4 pointers on stack per level of nesting.  Seeing that
single link_path_walk() stack frame in mainline is about 5-6 times bigger
than that, "just put enough for all levels into auto array" is an obvious
approach - a couple of link_path_walk() stack frames will be heavier than
that.  For renameat() (the worst-case user of link_path_walk() - there are
two struct nameidata on stack) we end up with breakeven at *one* level of
nesting, what with getting rid of 2*9 pointers in ->saved_names[] of those
nameidata.  And yes, I've measured the actual stack use before and after...

A kilobyte would suffice for 32 levels.  _IF_ we go for "lift the restrictions
on nesting completely", sure, we want to switch to (on-demand) dynamic
allocation.  It's not particularly hard to add and it might be worth doing,
but it's a separate story.  This series leaves the set of accepted pathnames
as-is...

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-20 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-20 18:12 [RFC][PATCHSET] non-recursive link_path_walk() and reducing stack footprint Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 01/24] lustre: rip the private symlink nesting limit out Al Viro
2015-04-20 19:08   ` Andreas Dilger
2015-04-20 19:22     ` Al Viro
2015-04-20 20:35       ` Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 02/24] VFS: replace {, total_}link_count in task_struct with pointer to nameidata Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 03/24] ovl: rearrange ovl_follow_link to it doesn't need to call ->put_link Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 04/24] VFS: replace nameidata arg to ->put_link with a char* Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 05/24] SECURITY: remove nameidata arg from inode_follow_link Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 06/24] VFS: remove nameidata args from ->follow_link Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 07/24] namei: expand nested_symlink() in its only caller Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 08/24] namei.c: separate the parts of follow_link() that find the link body Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 09/24] namei: fold follow_link() into link_path_walk() Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 10/24] link_path_walk: handle get_link() returning ERR_PTR() immediately Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 11/24] link_path_walk: don't bother with walk_component() after jumping link Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 12/24] link_path_walk: turn inner loop into explicit goto Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 13/24] link_path_walk: massage a bit more Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 14/24] link_path_walk: get rid of duplication Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 15/24] link_path_walk: final preparations to killing recursion Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 16/24] link_path_walk: kill the recursion Al Viro
2015-04-20 21:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-20 21:32     ` Al Viro [this message]
2015-04-20 21:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-20 21:51         ` Al Viro
2015-04-20 21:41       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-20 21:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-20 21:59           ` Al Viro
2015-04-20 21:52         ` Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 17/24] link_path_walk: split "return from recursive call" path Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 18/24] link_path_walk: cleanup - turn goto start; into continue; Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 19/24] namei: fold may_follow_link() into follow_link() Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 20/24] namei: introduce nameidata->stack Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 21/24] namei: regularize use of put_link() and follow_link(), trim arguments Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 22/24] namei: trim the arguments of get_link() Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 23/24] new ->follow_link() and ->put_link() calling conventions Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 24/24] uninline walk_component() Al Viro
2015-04-21 14:49 ` [RFC][PATCHSET] non-recursive link_path_walk() and reducing stack footprint Al Viro
2015-04-21 15:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-04-21 15:12     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-21 15:45       ` Al Viro
2015-04-21 16:46         ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-04-21 21:20         ` Al Viro
2015-04-22 18:07           ` Al Viro
2015-04-22 20:12             ` Al Viro
2015-04-22 21:05               ` Al Viro
2015-04-23  7:45                 ` NeilBrown
2015-04-23 18:07                   ` Al Viro
2015-04-24  6:35                     ` NeilBrown
2015-04-24 13:42                       ` Al Viro
2015-05-04  5:11                         ` Al Viro
2015-05-04  7:30                           ` NeilBrown
2015-04-23  5:01           ` Al Viro

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