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* Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
@ 2015-07-27 12:07 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2015-07-28 20:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
  2015-08-05 22:21 ` Darren Hart
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From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2015-07-27 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner, Darren Hart, Torvald Riegel
  Cc: mtk.manpages, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek,
	linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt,
	Peter Zijlstra, Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard,
	Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner,
	Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell,
	Heinrich Schuchardt

Hello all,

>From a draft sent out in March, I got a few useful comments that
I've now incorporated into this draft. And I got some complaints
from people who did not want to read groff source. My point
was that there are a bunch of FIXMEs in the page source that I
wanted people to look at... Anyway, this time, I will take
a different tack, interspersing the FIXMEs in a rendered 
version of the page. I'd greatly appreciate help with those FIXMEs.

The current page source can be found at in a branch at
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/log/?h=draft_futex

===

As becomes quickly obvious upon reading it, the current futex(2) 
man page is in a sorry state, lacking many important details, and
also the various additions that have been made to the interface
over the last years. I've been working on revising it, first
of all based on input I got in response to a request for help
last year (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1703405), 
especially taking Thomas Gleixner's input 
(http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1703405/focus=2952) 
into account. I also got some further offlist input from Darren
 Hart, Torvald Riegel, and Davidlohr Bueso that has been
incorporated into the revised draft. Other than that, I got
some useful info out of Ulrich Drepper's paper (cited at the
end of the page) and one or two web pages (cited in the page
source).

The page has now increased in size by a factor of about 5, but
is far from complete. In particular, as I reworked the page, 
there were many details that I was not 100% certain of, and I
have added FIXME markers to the page source. In addition,
Torvald added some text, and a few more FIXMEs. Some of
the FIXMEs are trivial, as in: I'd like confirmation that
I have correctly captured a technical detail. Others are more 
substantial, probably requiring the addition of further text.

I appreciate that there are probably other things that can be
improved in the page. (Torvald and Darren have some ideas.)
However, before growing the page any further, I would like to
resolve as many of the FIXMEs (and any other problems that people
see) as possible in the existing text. I need help with that. 
(And I know that dealing with that help, if I get it, will in 
itself will be quite a task to deal with, which is why I have 
been delaying it for many weeks now, as my time has been 
rather limited recently.)

So, please take a look at the page below. At this point,
I would most especially appreciate help with the FIXMEs.

Cheers,

Michael



FUTEX(2)                Linux Programmer's Manual               FUTEX(2)

NAME
       futex - fast user-space locking

SYNOPSIS
       #include <linux/futex.h>
       #include <sys/time.h>

       int futex(int *uaddr, int futex_op, int val,
                 const struct timespec *timeout,   /* or: uint32_t val2 */
                 int *uaddr2, int val3);

       Note: There is no glibc wrapper for this system call; see NOTES.

DESCRIPTION
       The  futex()  system  call  provides a method for waiting until a
       certain condition becomes true.  It is typically used as a block‐
       ing  construct  in  the context of shared-memory synchronization:
       The program implements the majority  of  the  synchronization  in
       user  space,  and  uses  one of the operations of the system call
       when it is likely that it has to block for a  longer  time  until
       the  condition  becomes true.  The program uses another operation
       of the system call to wake anyone waiting for a particular condi‐
       tion.

       The  condition  is  represented  by  the  futex word, which is an
       address in memory supplied to the futex() system  call,  and  the
       32-bit  value  at  this  memory  location.   (While  the  virtual
       addresses for the same physical memory address in  separate  pro‐
       cesses  may be different, the same physical address may be shared
       by the processes using mmap(2).)

       When executing a futex operation that requests to block a thread,
       the  kernel  will block only if the futex word has the value that
       the calling thread supplied as expected value.  The load from the
       futex  word,  the  comparison  with  the  expected value, and the
       actual blocking will happen atomically and totally  ordered  with
       respect  to  concurrently  executing futex operations on the same
       futex word.  Thus, the futex word is used to connect the synchro‐
       nization in user space with the implementation of blocking by the
       kernel; similar to an atomic compare-and-exchange operation  that
       potentially  changes  shared  memory,  blocking via a futex is an
       atomic compare-and-block operation.

       One example use of futexes is implementing locks.  The  state  of
       the  lock  (i.e., acquired or not acquired) can be represented as
       an atomically accessed flag in shared memory.  In the uncontended
       case,  a  thread  can access or modify the lock state with atomic
       instructions,  for  example  atomically  changing  it  from   not
       acquired   to   acquired  using  an  atomic  compare-and-exchange
       instruction.  A thread maybe unable acquire a lock because it  is
       already  acquired by another thread.  It then may pass the lock's
       flag as futex word and the value representing the acquired  state
       as  the  expected value to a futex() wait operation.  The call to
       futex() will block if and only if the  lock  is  still  acquired.
       When  releasing  the  lock,  a thread has to first reset the lock
       state to not acquired and then execute  a  futex  operation  that
       wakes  threads  blocked on the lock flag used as futex word (this
       can be be further optimized to avoid unnecessary wake-ups).   See
       futex(7) for more detail on how to use futexes.

       Besides the basic wait and wake-up futex functionality, there are
       further futex operations aimed at  supporting  more  complex  use
       cases.   Also note that no explicit initialization or destruction
       are necessary to use futexes; the kernel maintains a futex (i.e.,
       the  kernel-internal  implementation  artifact) only while opera‐
       tions such as FUTEX_WAIT, described below, are being performed on
       a particular futex word.

   Arguments
       The  uaddr  argument points to the futex word.  On all platforms,
       futexes are four-byte integers that must be aligned  on  a  four-
       byte  boundary.   The operation to perform on the futex is speci‐
       fied in the futex_op argument; val is a value whose  meaning  and
       purpose depends on futex_op.

       The  remaining arguments (timeout, uaddr2, and val3) are required
       only for certain of the futex operations described below.   Where
       one of these arguments is not required, it is ignored.

       For  several  blocking  operations,  the  timeout  argument  is a
       pointer to a timespec structure that specifies a timeout for  the
       operation.   However,  notwithstanding the prototype shown above,
       for some operations, the least significant four bytes are used as
       an  integer  whose  meaning  is determined by the operation.  For
       these operations, the kernel casts the  timeout  value  first  to
       unsigned  long,  then  to  uint32_t, and in the remainder of this
       page, this argument is referred to as val2  when  interpreted  in
       this fashion.

       Where  it is required, the uaddr2 argument is a pointer to a sec‐
       ond futex word that is employed by the operation.  The  interpre‐
       tation of the final integer argument, val3, depends on the opera‐
       tion.

   Futex operations
       The futex_op argument consists of two parts: a command that spec‐
       ifies  the  operation to be performed, bit-wise ORed with zero or
       or more options that modify the behaviour of the operation.   The
       options that may be included in futex_op are as follows:

       FUTEX_PRIVATE_FLAG (since Linux 2.6.22)
              This option bit can be employed with all futex operations.
              It tells the kernel that the futex is process-private  and
              not  shared  with  another process (i.e., it is being used
              for synchronization  only  between  threads  of  the  same
              process).   This allows the kernel to make some additional
              performance optimizations.

              As a convenience, <linux/futex.h> defines a  set  of  con‐
              stants  with  the  suffix _PRIVATE that are equivalents of
              all  of  the  operations  listed  below,  but   with   the
              FUTEX_PRIVATE_FLAG  ORed  into  the constant value.  Thus,
              there are FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE,  and  so
              on.

       FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME (since Linux 2.6.28)
              This   option   bit   can   be   employed  only  with  the
              FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET and FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI operations.

              If this option is set, the kernel  treats  timeout  as  an
              absolute time based on CLOCK_REALTIME.

.\" FIXME XXX I added CLOCK_MONOTONIC below. Okay?
              If  this  option  is not set, the kernel treats timeout as
              relative time, measured against the CLOCK_MONOTONIC clock.

       The operation specified in futex_op is one of the following:

       FUTEX_WAIT (since Linux 2.6.0)
              This operation tests that the  value  at  the  futex  word
              pointed  to  by  the  address  uaddr  still  contains  the
              expected value  val,  and  if  so,  then  sleeps  awaiting
              FUTEX_WAKE  on  the  futex word.  The load of the value of
              the futex word is an atomic  memory  access  (i.e.,  using
              atomic  machine  instructions  of the respective architec‐
              ture).  This load, the comparison with the expected value,
              and starting to sleep are performed atomically and totally
              ordered with respect to other futex operations on the same
              futex  word.  If the thread starts to sleep, it is consid‐
              ered a waiter on this futex word.  If the futex value does
              not  match  val,  then the call fails immediately with the
              error EAGAIN.

              The purpose of the comparison with the expected  value  is
              to  prevent  lost  wake-ups: If another thread changed the
              value of the futex word after the calling  thread  decided
              to block based on the prior value, and if the other thread
              executed a FUTEX_WAKE operation (or similar wake-up) after
              the  value  change  and  before this FUTEX_WAIT operation,
              then the latter will observe the value change and will not
              start to sleep.

              If  the timeout argument is non-NULL, its contents specify
              a relative timeout for the wait, measured according to the
.\" FIXME XXX I added CLOCK_MONOTONIC below. Okay?
              CLOCK_MONOTONIC  clock.  (This interval will be rounded up
              to the system clock  granularity,  and  kernel  scheduling
              delays  mean  that  the blocking interval may overrun by a
              small amount.)  If timeout is NULL, the call blocks indef‐
              initely.

              The arguments uaddr2 and val3 are ignored.


       FUTEX_WAKE (since Linux 2.6.0)
              This  operation  wakes at most val of the waiters that are
              waiting (e.g., inside FUTEX_WAIT) on the futex word at the
              address  uaddr.  Most commonly, val is specified as either
              1 (wake up a single waiter) or INT_MAX (wake up all  wait‐
              ers).   No  guarantee  is provided about which waiters are
              awoken (e.g., a waiter with a higher  scheduling  priority
              is  not  guaranteed to be awoken in preference to a waiter
              with a lower priority).

              The arguments timeout, uaddr2, and val3 are ignored.


       FUTEX_FD (from Linux 2.6.0 up to and including Linux 2.6.25)
              This operation creates a file descriptor that  is  associ‐
              ated  with  the futex at uaddr.  The caller must close the
              returned file descriptor after use.  When another  process
              or  thread  performs  a  FUTEX_WAKE on the futex word, the
              file  descriptor  indicates   as   being   readable   with
              select(2), poll(2), and epoll(7)

              The  file  descriptor  can  be used to obtain asynchronous
              notifications:  if  val  is  nonzero,  then  when  another
              process  or  thread executes a FUTEX_WAKE, the caller will
              receive the signal number that was passed in val.

              The arguments timeout, uaddr2 and val3 are ignored.

.\" FIXME(Torvald) We never define "upped".  Maybe just remove the
.\"      following sentence?
              To prevent race conditions, the caller should test if  the
              futex has been upped after FUTEX_FD returns.

              Because  it was inherently racy, FUTEX_FD has been removed
              from Linux 2.6.26 onward.

       FUTEX_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.0)
.\" FIXME(Torvald) Is there some indication that FUTEX_REQUEUE is broken
.\"     in general, or is this comment implicitly speaking about the
.\"     condvar (?) use case? If the latter we might want to weaken the
.\"     advice below a little.
.\" [Anyone else have input on this?]
              Avoid using this operation.  It is broken for its intended
              purpose.  Use FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE instead.

              This    operation    performs    the    same    task    as
              FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE, except that no check is made using  the
              value in val3.  (The argument val3 is ignored.)

       FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.7)
              This  operation  first  checks  whether the location uaddr
              still contains the value  val3.   If  not,  the  operation
              fails  with  the  error  EAGAIN.  Otherwise, the operation
              wakes up a maximum of val waiters that are waiting on  the
              futex  at uaddr.  If there are more than val waiters, then
              the remaining waiters are removed from the wait  queue  of
              the  source  futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue of
              the target futex at uaddr2.  The val2  argument  specifies
              an  upper limit on the number of waiters that are requeued
              to the futex at uaddr2.

.\" FIXME(Torvald) Is the following correct?  Or is just the decision
.\" which threads to wake or requeue part of the atomic operation?
              The load from uaddr is  an  atomic  memory  access  (i.e.,
              using atomic machine instructions of the respective archi‐
              tecture).  This load, the comparison with  val3,  and  the
              requeueing  of  any  waiters  are performed atomically and
              totally ordered with respect to other  operations  on  the
              same futex word.

              This  operation was added as a replacement for the earlier
              FUTEX_REQUEUE.  The difference is that the  check  of  the
              value  at uaddr can be used to ensure that requeueing hap‐
              pens only under certain conditions.  Both  operations  can
              be   used   to  avoid  a  "thundering  herd"  effect  when
              FUTEX_WAKE is used and all of the waiters that  are  woken
              need to acquire another futex.

.\" FIXME Please review the following new paragraph to see if it is
.\"       accurate.
              Typical  values to specify for val are 0 or or 1.  (Speci‐
              fying INT_MAX is not useful, because  it  would  make  the
              FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE  operation  equivalent  to  FUTEX_WAKE.)
              The limit value specified via val2 is typically  either  1
              or  INT_MAX.  (Specifying the argument as 0 is not useful,
              because it  would  make  the  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE  operation
              equivalent to FUTEX_WAIT.)
.\" FIXME Here, it would be helpful to have an example of how
.\"       FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE might be used, at the same time illustrating
.\"       why FUTEX_WAKE is unsuitable for the same use case.


       FUTEX_WAKE_OP (since Linux 2.6.14)
.\" FIXME I added a lengthy piece of text on FUTEX_WAKE_OP text,
.\"       and I'd be happy if someone checked it.
.\"
.\" FIXME(Torvald) The glibc condvar implementation is currently being
.\"     revised (e.g., to not use an internal lock anymore).
.\"     It is probably more future-proof to remove this paragraph.
.\" [Torvald, do you have an update here?]
.\"
              This  operation  was  added to support some user-space use
              cases where more than one futex must  be  handled  at  the
              same time.  The most notable example is the implementation
              of pthread_cond_signal(3), which  requires  operations  on
              two  futexes,  the one used to implement the mutex and the
              one used in the implementation of the wait  queue  associ‐
              ated  with  the  condition variable.  FUTEX_WAKE_OP allows
              such cases to be implemented without leading to high rates
              of contention and context switching.

              The FUTEX_WAIT_OP operation is equivalent to executing the
              following code atomically and totally ordered with respect
              to other futex operations on any of the two supplied futex
              words:

                  int oldval = *(int *) uaddr2;
                  *(int *) uaddr2 = oldval op oparg;
                  futex(uaddr, FUTEX_WAKE, val, 0, 0, 0);
                  if (oldval cmp cmparg)
                      futex(uaddr2, FUTEX_WAKE, val2, 0, 0, 0);

              In other words, FUTEX_WAIT_OP does the following:

              *  saves the original value of the futex  word  at  uaddr2
                 and  performs  an  operation to modify the value of the
                 futex at uaddr2; this is  an  atomic  read-modify-write
                 memory  access (i.e., using atomic machine instructions
                 of the respective architecture)

              *  wakes up a maximum of val waiters on the futex for  the
                 futex word at uaddr; and

              *  dependent  on  the  results  of  a test of the original
                 value of the futex word at uaddr2, wakes up  a  maximum
                 of  val2  waiters  on  the  futex for the futex word at
                 uaddr2.

              The operation and comparison that are to be performed  are
              encoded  in  the  bits of the argument val3.  Pictorially,
              the encoding is:

                      +---+---+-----------+-----------+
                      |op |cmp|   oparg   |  cmparg   |
                      +---+---+-----------+-----------+
                        4   4       12          12    <== # of bits

              Expressed in code, the encoding is:

                  #define FUTEX_OP(op, oparg, cmp, cmparg) \
                                  (((op & 0xf) << 28) | \
                                  ((cmp & 0xf) << 24) | \
                                  ((oparg & 0xfff) << 12) | \
                                  (cmparg & 0xfff))

              In the above, op and cmp are each one of the codes  listed
              below.   The  oparg  and  cmparg  components  are  literal
              numeric values, except as noted below.

              The op component has one of the following values:

                  FUTEX_OP_SET        0  /* uaddr2 = oparg; */
                  FUTEX_OP_ADD        1  /* uaddr2 += oparg; */
                  FUTEX_OP_OR         2  /* uaddr2 |= oparg; */
                  FUTEX_OP_ANDN       3  /* uaddr2 &= ~oparg; */
                  FUTEX_OP_XOR        4  /* uaddr2 ^= oparg; */

              In addition, bit-wise ORing the following  value  into  op
              causes (1 << oparg) to be used as the operand:

                  FUTEX_OP_ARG_SHIFT  8  /* Use (1 << oparg) as operand */

              The cmp field is one of the following:

                  FUTEX_OP_CMP_EQ     0  /* if (oldval == cmparg) wake */
                  FUTEX_OP_CMP_NE     1  /* if (oldval != cmparg) wake */
                  FUTEX_OP_CMP_LT     2  /* if (oldval < cmparg) wake */
                  FUTEX_OP_CMP_LE     3  /* if (oldval <= cmparg) wake */
                  FUTEX_OP_CMP_GT     4  /* if (oldval > cmparg) wake */
                  FUTEX_OP_CMP_GE     5  /* if (oldval >= cmparg) wake */

              The return value of FUTEX_WAKE_OP is the sum of the number
              of waiters woken on the futex uaddr  plus  the  number  of
              waiters woken on the futex uaddr2.

       FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET (since Linux 2.6.25)
              This operation is like FUTEX_WAIT except that val3 is used
              to provide a 32-bit bitset to the kernel.  This bitset  is
              stored  in  the  kernel-internal state of the waiter.  See
              the description of FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET for further details.

              The FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET operation also interprets the  time‐
              out argument differently from FUTEX_WAIT.  See the discus‐
              sion of FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME, above.

              The uaddr2 argument is ignored.

       FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET (since Linux 2.6.25)
              This operation is the same as FUTEX_WAKE except  that  the
              val3  argument  is  used to provide a 32-bit bitset to the
              kernel.  This bitset  is  used  to  select  which  waiters
              should  be  woken up.  The selection is done by a bit-wise
              AND of the "wake" bitset (i.e., the value in val3) and the
              bitset which is stored in the kernel-internal state of the
              waiter   (the   "wait"   bitset   that   is   set    using
              FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET).   All  of  the  waiters  for which the
              result of the AND is nonzero are woken up;  the  remaining
              waiters are left sleeping.

.\" FIXME XXX Is this next paragraph that I added okay?
              The  effect  of FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET and FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET is
              to allow selective wake-ups among  multiple  waiters  that
              are  blocked on the same futex.  Note, however, that using
              this bitset multiplexing feature on a futex is less  effi‐
              cient  than simply using multiple futexes, because employ‐
              ing bitset multiplexing requires the kernel to  check  all
              waiters  on  a  futex, including those that are not inter‐
              ested in being woken up (i.e., they do not have the  rele‐
              vant bit set in their "wait" bitset).

              The uaddr2 and timeout arguments are ignored.

              The  FUTEX_WAIT  and  FUTEX_WAKE  operations correspond to
              FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET and FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET  operations  where
              the bitsets are all ones.

   Priority-inheritance futexes
       Linux supports priority-inheritance (PI) futexes in order to han‐
       dle priority-inversion problems that can be encountered with nor‐
       mal  futex  locks.  Priority inversion is the problem that occurs
       when a high-priority task is blocked waiting to  acquire  a  lock
       held  by a low-priority task, while tasks at an intermediate pri‐
       ority continuously preempt the low-priority task  from  the  CPU.
       Consequently,  the  low-priority  task  makes  no progress toward
       releasing the lock, and the high-priority task remains blocked.

       Priority inheritance is a mechanism for dealing with  the  prior‐
       ity-inversion problem.  With this mechanism, when a high-priority
       task becomes blocked by a lock held by a low-priority  task,  the
       latter's priority is temporarily raised to that of the former, so
       that it is not preempted by any intermediate level tasks, and can
       thus  make  progress toward releasing the lock.  To be effective,
       priority inheritance must be transitive, meaning that if a  high-
       priority task blocks on a lock held by a lower-priority task that
       is itself blocked by lock held by  another  intermediate-priority
       task  (and  so  on, for chains of arbitrary length), then both of
       those task (or more generally, all of the tasks in a lock  chain)
       have  their priorities raised to be the same as the high-priority
       task.

.\" FIXME XXX The following is my attempt at a definition of PI futexes,
.\"       based on mail discussions with Darren Hart. Does it seem okay?

       From a user-space perspective, what makes a futex PI-aware  is  a
       policy  agreement  between  user  space  and the kernel about the
       value of the futex word (described in a moment), coupled with the
       use  of  the  PI futex operations described below (in particular,
       FUTEX_LOCK_PI, FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI, and FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI).

.\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
.\"       The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
.\"       (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
.\"       significantly. Please check it.

       The PI futex operations described below  differ  from  the  other
       futex  operations  in  that  they impose policy on the use of the
       value of the futex word:

       *  If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value  shall  be
          0.

       *  If  the  lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
          thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.

       *  If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for  the
          lock,  then  the  FUTEX_WAITERS  bit shall be set in the futex
          word's value; in other words, this value is:

              FUTEX_WAITERS | TID


       Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
       which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.

       With this policy in place, a user-space application can acquire a
       not-acquired lock or release a lock that no other threads try  to
       acquire using atomic instructions executed in user space (e.g., a
       compare-and-swap operation such as cmpxchg on the  x86  architec‐
       ture).   Acquiring  a  lock simply consists of using compare-and-
       swap to atomically set the futex word's value to the caller's TID
       if  its  previous  value  was 0.  Releasing a lock requires using
       compare-and-swap to set the futex word's value to 0 if the previ‐
       ous value was the expected TID.

       If a futex is already acquired (i.e., has a nonzero value), wait‐
       ers must employ the FUTEX_LOCK_PI operation to acquire the  lock.
       If other threads are waiting for the lock, then the FUTEX_WAITERS
       bit is set in the futex value; in this case, the lock owner  must
       employ the FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI operation to release the lock.

       In  the  cases  where  callers  are forced into the kernel (i.e.,
       required to perform a futex() call), they then deal directly with
       a so-called RT-mutex, a kernel locking mechanism which implements
       the required priority-inheritance semantics.  After the  RT-mutex
       is  acquired,  the futex value is updated accordingly, before the
       calling thread returns to user space.
.\" FIXME ===== End of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====



.\" FIXME We need some explanation in the following paragraph of *why*
.\"       it is important to note that "the kernel will update the
.\"       futex word's value prior
       It is important to note to returning to user space" . Can someone
       explain?   that  the  kernel  will  update the futex word's value
       prior to returning to user space.  Unlike the other futex  opera‐
       tions  described  above, the PI futex operations are designed for
       the implementation of very specific IPC mechanisms.
.\"
.\" FIXME XXX In discussing errors for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, Darren Hart
.\"       made the observation that "EINVAL is returned if the non-pi 
.\"       to pi or op pairing semantics are violated."
.\"       Probably there needs to be a general statement about this
.\"       requirement, probably located at about this point in the page.
.\"       Darren (or someone else), care to take a shot at this?
.\"
.\" FIXME Somewhere on this page (I guess under the discussion of PI
.\"       futexes) we need a discussion of the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit.
.\"       Can someone propose a text?



       PI futexes are operated on by specifying  one  of  the  following
       values in futex_op:

       FUTEX_LOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
.\" FIXME I did some significant rewording of tglx's text to create
.\"       the text below.
.\"       Please check the following paragraph, in case I injected
.\"       errors.
              This  operation  is used after after an attempt to acquire
              the lock  via  an  atomic  user-space  instruction  failed
              because  the  futex word has a nonzero value—specifically,
              because it contained the  namespace-specific  TID  of  the
              lock owner.
.\" FIXME In the preceding line, what does "namespace-specific" mean?
.\"       (I kept those words from tglx.)
.\"       That is, what kind of namespace are we talking about?
.\"       (I suppose we are talking PID namespaces here, but I want to
.\"       be sure.)


              The  operation  checks  the value of the futex word at the
              address uaddr.  If the value is 0, then the  kernel  tries
              to atomically set the futex value to the caller's TID.  
.\" FIXME What would be the cause(s) of failure referred to
.\"       in the following sentence?
              If
              that fails, or the futex word's value is nonzero, the ker‐
              nel  atomically  sets the FUTEX_WAITERS bit, which signals
              the futex owner that it cannot unlock the  futex  in  user
              space  atomically  by setting the futex value to 0.  After
              that, the kernel tries to find the thread which is associ‐
              ated with the owner TID, creates or reuses kernel state on
              behalf of the owner and attaches the waiter  to  it.   
.\" FIXME Could I get a bit more detail on the previous lines?
.\"       What is "creates or reuses kernel state" about?
.\"       (I think this needs to be clearer in the page)

.\" FIXME In the next line, what type of "priority" are we talking about?
.\"       Realtime priorities for SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR?
.\"       Or something else?

              The
              enqueueing  of  the waiter is in descending priority order
              if more than one waiter exists.  

.\" FIXME In the next sentence, what type of "priority" are we talking about?
.\"       Realtime priorities for SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR?
.\"       Or something else?
.\" FIXME What does "bandwidth" refer to in the next sentence?

              The owner inherits either
              the priority or the bandwidth of the waiter.  
.\" FIXME In the preceding sentence, what determines whether the
.\"       owner inherits the priority versus the bandwidth?

.\" FIXME Could I get some help translating the next sentence into
.\"       something that user-space developers (and I) can understand?
.\"       In particular, what are "nested locks" in this context?

              This inheri‐
              tance follows the lock chain in the case of nested locking
              and performs deadlock detection.

.\" FIXME tglx said "The timeout argument is handled as described in
.\"       FUTEX_WAIT." However, it appears to me that this is not right.
.\"       Is the following formulation correct?
              The  timeout  argument  provides  a  timeout  for the lock
              attempt.  It is interpreted as an absolute time,  measured
              against the CLOCK_REALTIME clock.  If timeout is NULL, the
              operation will block indefinitely.

              The uaddr2, val, and val3 arguments are ignored.

       FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
.\" FIXME I think it would be helpful here to say a few more words about
.\"       the difference(s) between FUTEX_LOCK_PI and FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI.
.\"       Can someone propose something?
              This operation tries to acquire the futex  at  uaddr.   It
              deals  with  the situation where the TID value at uaddr is
              0, but the FUTEX_WAITERS bit is set.   User  space  cannot
              handle this condition in a race-free manner
.\" FIXME How does the situation in the previous sentence come about?
.\"       Probably it would be helpful to say something about that in
.\"       the man page.
.\" FIXME And *how* does FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI deal with this situation?


              The uaddr2, val, timeout, and val3 arguments are ignored.

       FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
              This operation wakes the top priority waiter that is wait‐
              ing in FUTEX_LOCK_PI on the futex address provided by  the
              uaddr argument.

              This  is  called when the user space value at uaddr cannot
              be changed atomically from a TID (of the owner) to 0.

              The uaddr2, val, timeout, and val3 arguments are ignored.

       FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
              This operation is a PI-aware variant of FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE.
              It    requeues    waiters    that    are    blocked    via
              FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI on uaddr from a non-PI source  futex
              (uaddr) to a PI target futex (uaddr2).

              As with FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE, this operation wakes up a maxi‐
              mum of val waiters that are waiting on the futex at uaddr.
              However, for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, val is required to be 1
              (since the main point is to avoid a thundering herd).  The
              remaining  waiters  are removed from the wait queue of the
              source futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue  of  the
              target futex at uaddr2.

              The val2 and val3 arguments serve the same purposes as for
              FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE.
.\" FIXME The page at http://locklessinc.com/articles/futex_cheat_sheet/
.\"       notes that "priority-inheritance Futex to priority-inheritance
.\"       Futex requeues are currently unsupported". Do we need to say
.\"       something in the man page about that?



       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)

.\" FIXME I find the next sentence (from tglx) pretty hard to grok.
.\"       Could someone explain it a bit more?

              Wait operation to wait on a  non-PI  futex  at  uaddr  and
              potentially  be  requeued  onto a PI futex at uaddr2.  The
              wait operation on uaddr is the same  as  FUTEX_WAIT.   

.\" FIXME I'm not quite clear on the meaning of the following sentence.
.\"       Is this trying to say that while blocked in a
.\"       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI, it could happen that another
.\"       task does a FUTEX_WAKE on uaddr that simply causes
.\"       a normal wake, with the result that the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
.\"       does not complete? What happens then to the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
.\"       opertion? Does it remain blocked, or does it unblock
.\"       In which case, what does user space see?

              The
              waiter   can  be  removed  from  the  wait  on  uaddr  via
              FUTEX_WAKE without requeueing on uaddr2.

.\" FIXME Please check the following. tglx said "The timeout argument
.\"       is handled as described in FUTEX_WAIT.", but the truth is
.\"       as below, AFAICS

              If timeout is not NULL, it specifies  a  timeout  for  the
              wait  operation;  this  timeout is interpreted as outlined
              above  in  the  description  of  the  FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME
              option.   If  timeout  is  NULL,  the  operation can block
              indefinitely.

              The val3 argument is ignored.

.\" FIXME Re the preceding sentence... Actually 'val3' is internally set to
.\"       FUTEX_BITSET_MATCH_ANY before calling futex_wait_requeue_pi().
.\"       I'm not sure we need to say anything about this though.
.\"       Comments?


              The FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI  and  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI  were
              added  to  support a fairly specific use case: support for
              priority-inheritance-aware POSIX threads  condition  vari‐
              ables.  The idea is that these operations should always be
              paired, in order to ensure that user space and the  kernel
              remain in sync.  Thus, in the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI opera‐
              tion, the user-space application pre-specifies the  target
              of    the    requeue    that    takes    place    in   the
              FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI operation.

RETURN VALUE
       In the event of an error (and assuming that futex()  was  invoked
       via  syscall(2)), all operations return -1 and set errno to indi‐
       cate the cause of the error.  The return value on success depends
       on the operation, as described in the following list:

       FUTEX_WAIT
              Returns 0 if the caller was woken up.  Note that a wake-up
              can also be caused by common futex usage patterns in unre‐
              lated code that happened to have previously used the futex
              word's memory location (e.g., typical  futex-based  imple‐
              mentations  of  Pthreads mutexes can cause this under some
              conditions).  Therefore, callers should  always  conserva‐
              tively assume that a return value of 0 can mean a spurious
              wake-up, and use the futex word's value  (i.e.,  the  user
              space synchronization scheme)
                  to decide whether to continue to block or not.

       FUTEX_WAKE
              Returns the number of waiters that were woken up.

       FUTEX_FD
              Returns the new file descriptor associated with the futex.

       FUTEX_REQUEUE
              Returns the number of waiters that were woken up.

       FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE
              Returns  the total number of waiters that were woken up or
              requeued to the futex for the futex word  at  uaddr2.   If
              this  value  is  greater  than val, then difference is the
              number of waiters requeued to the futex for the futex word
              at uaddr2.

       FUTEX_WAKE_OP
              Returns  the  total  number of waiters that were woken up.
              This is the sum of the woken waiters on  the  two  futexes
              for the futex words at uaddr and uaddr2.

       FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET
              Returns  0 if the caller was woken up.  See FUTEX_WAIT for
              how to interpret this correctly in practice.

       FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET
              Returns the number of waiters that were woken up.

       FUTEX_LOCK_PI
              Returns 0 if the futex was successfully locked.

       FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI
              Returns 0 if the futex was successfully locked.

       FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI
              Returns 0 if the futex was successfully unlocked.

       FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI
              Returns the total number of waiters that were woken up  or
              requeued  to  the  futex for the futex word at uaddr2.  If
              this value is greater than val,  then  difference  is  the
              number of waiters requeued to the futex for the futex word
              at uaddr2.

       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
              Returns 0 if the caller was successfully requeued  to  the
              futex for the futex word at uaddr2.

ERRORS
       EACCES No read access to the memory of a futex word.

       EAGAIN (FUTEX_WAIT, FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET, FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI) The
              value pointed to by uaddr was not equal  to  the  expected
              value val at the time of the call.

              Note:  on Linux, the symbolic names EAGAIN and EWOULDBLOCK
              (both of which appear in different  parts  of  the  kernel
              futex code) have the same value.

       EAGAIN (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE,    FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)   The   value
              pointed to by uaddr is not equal  to  the  expected  value
              val3.   (This  probably  indicates  a  race;  use the safe
              FUTEX_WAKE now.)
.\" FIXME: Is the preceding sentence "(This probably...") correct?
.\" [I would prefer to remove this sentence. --triegel@redhat.com]


       EAGAIN (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,  FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,   FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
              The    futex    owner    thread    ID    of   uaddr   (for
              FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI: uaddr2) is about to  exit,  but  has
              not yet handled the internal state cleanup.  Try again.

.\" FIXME XXX Should there be an EAGAIN case for FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI?
.\"       It seems so, looking at the handling of the rt_mutex_trylock()
.\"       call in futex_lock_pi()
.\"       (Davidlohr also thinks so.)


       EDEADLK
              (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,   FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
              The futex word at uaddr is already locked by the caller.

       EDEADLK

.\" FIXME I reworded tglx's text somewhat; is the following okay?

              (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) While requeueing a waiter to the PI
              futex  for the futex word at uaddr2, the kernel detected a
              deadlock.

.\" FIXME XXX I see that kernel/locking/rtmutex.c uses EDEADLK in some
.\"       places, and EDEADLOCK in others. On almost all architectures
.\"       these constants are synonymous. Is there a reason that both
.\"       names are used?

       EFAULT A required pointer argument (i.e., uaddr, uaddr2, or time‐
              out) did not point to a valid user-space address.

       EINTR  A  FUTEX_WAIT  or  FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET  operation was inter‐
              rupted by a signal (see  signal(7)).   In  kernels  before
              Linux  2.6.22,  this error could also be returned for on a
              spurious wakeup; since Linux 2.6.22, this no  longer  hap‐
              pens.

       EINVAL The  operation  in futex_op is one of those that employs a
              timeout, but the supplied  timeout  argument  was  invalid
              (tv_sec  was  less than zero, or tv_nsec was not less than
              1,000,000,000).

       EINVAL The operation specified in futex_op employs one or both of
              the  pointers  uaddr and uaddr2, but one of these does not
              point to a valid object—that is, the address is not  four-
              byte-aligned.

       EINVAL (FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET, FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET) The bitset supplied
              in val3 is zero.

       EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)  uaddr  equals  uaddr2  (i.e.,   an
              attempt was made to requeue to the same futex).

       EINVAL (FUTEX_FD) The signal number supplied in val is invalid.

       EINVAL (FUTEX_WAKE,       FUTEX_WAKE_OP,       FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET,
              FUTEX_REQUEUE, FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE) The kernel  detected  an
              inconsistency  between  the  user-space state at uaddr and
              the kernel state—that is, it detected a waiter which waits
              in FUTEX_LOCK_PI on uaddr.

       EINVAL (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,   FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,  FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI)  The
              kernel detected an inconsistency  between  the  user-space
              state  at  uaddr  and  the  kernel  state.  This indicates
              either state corruption or that the kernel found a  waiter
              on    uaddr   which   is   waiting   via   FUTEX_WAIT   or
              FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET.
.\" FIXME Above, tglx did not mention the "state corruption" case for
.\"       FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI, but I have added it, since I'm estimating
.\"       that it also applied for FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI.
.\"       So, does that case also apply for FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI?


       EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) The kernel  detected  an  inconsis‐
              tency  between the user-space state at uaddr2 and the ker‐
              nel state; that is, the kernel  detected  a  waiter  which
              waits via FUTEX_WAIT on uaddr2.
.\" FIXME In the preceding sentence, tglx did not mention FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET,
.\"       but should that not also be included here?


       EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)  The  kernel  detected an inconsis‐
              tency between the user-space state at uaddr and the kernel
              state;  that  is, the kernel detected a waiter which waits
              via FUTEX_WAIT or FUTEX_WAIT_BITESET on uaddr.

       EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) The kernel  detected  an  inconsis‐
              tency between the user-space state at uaddr and the kernel
              state; that is, the kernel detected a waiter  which  waits
              on     uaddr     via     FUTEX_LOCK_PI     (instead     of
              FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI).

.\" FIXME XXX The following is a reworded version of Darren Hart's text.
.\"       Please check that I did not introduce any errors.
       EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) An attempt was made  to  requeue  a
              waiter  to a futex other than that specified by the match‐
              ing FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI call for that waiter.

       EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) The val argument is not 1.

       EINVAL Invalid argument.

       ENOMEM (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,  FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,   FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
              The  kernel could not allocate memory to hold state infor‐
              mation.

       ENFILE (FUTEX_FD) The system limit on the total  number  of  open
              files has been reached.

       ENOSYS Invalid operation specified in futex_op.

       ENOSYS The FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME option was specified in futex_op,
              but the accompanying operation was neither FUTEX_WAIT_BIT‐
              SET nor FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI.

       ENOSYS (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,     FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,     FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI,
              FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI,  FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI)  A  run-time
              check determined that the operation is not available.  The
              PI futex operations are not implemented on  all  architec‐
              tures and are not supported on some CPU variants.

       EPERM  (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,   FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
              The caller is not allowed to attach itself to the futex at
              uaddr  (for  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI:  the  futex at uaddr2).
              (This may be caused by a state corruption in user space.)

       EPERM  (FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI) The caller does not own the lock  repre‐
              sented by the futex word.

       ESRCH  (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,   FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)

.\" FIXME I reworded the following sentence a bit differently from
.\"       tglx's formulation. Is it okay?

              The thread ID in the futex word at uaddr does not exist.

       ESRCH  (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) 

.\" FIXME I reworded the following sentence a bit differently from
.\"       tglx's formulation. Is it okay?

              The thread ID in the futex word  at
              uaddr2 does not exist.

       ETIMEDOUT
              The  operation  in futex_op employed the timeout specified
              in timeout, and the timeout expired before  the  operation
              completed.

VERSIONS
       Futexes were first made available in a stable kernel release with
       Linux 2.6.0.

       Initial futex support was merged in Linux 2.5.7 but with  differ‐
       ent  semantics  from  what  was described above.  A four-argument
       system call with the semantics described in this page was  intro‐
       duced  in Linux 2.5.40.  In Linux 2.5.70, one argument was added.
       In Linux 2.6.7, a sixth argument was added—messy,  especially  on
       the s390 architecture.

CONFORMING TO
       This system call is Linux-specific.

NOTES
       Glibc  does  not  provide a wrapper for this system call; call it
       using syscall(2).

       Various higher-level programming abstractions are implemented via
       futexes, including POSIX threads mutexes and condition variables,
       as well as POSIX semaphores.

EXAMPLE

.\" FIXME Is it worth having an example program?
.\" FIXME Anything obviously broken in the example program?

       The program below demonstrates use of futexes in a program  where
       parent  and  child  use a pair of futexes located inside a shared
       anonymous mapping to synchronize access to a shared resource: the
       terminal.   The  two  processes each write nloops (a command-line
       argument that defaults to 5 if omitted) messages to the  terminal
       and  employ  a  synchronization  protocol  that ensures that they
       alternate in writing messages.  Upon running this program we  see
       output such as the following:

           $ ./futex_demo
           Parent (18534) 0
           Child  (18535) 0
           Parent (18534) 1
           Child  (18535) 1
           Parent (18534) 2
           Child  (18535) 2
           Parent (18534) 3
           Child  (18535) 3
           Parent (18534) 4
           Child  (18535) 4

   Program source

       /* futex_demo.c

          Usage: futex_demo [nloops]
                           (Default: 5)

          Demonstrate the use of futexes in a program where parent and child
          use a pair of futexes located inside a shared anonymous mapping to
          synchronize access to a shared resource: the terminal. The two
          processes each write 'num-loops' messages to the terminal and employ
          a synchronization protocol that ensures that they alternate in
          writing messages.
       */
       #define _GNU_SOURCE
       #include <stdio.h>
       #include <errno.h>
       #include <stdlib.h>
       #include <unistd.h>
       #include <sys/wait.h>
       #include <sys/mman.h>
       #include <sys/syscall.h>
       #include <linux/futex.h>
       #include <sys/time.h>

       #define errExit(msg)    do { perror(msg); exit(EXIT_FAILURE); \
                               } while (0)

       static int *futex1, *futex2, *iaddr;

       static int
       futex(int *uaddr, int futex_op, int val,
             const struct timespec *timeout, int *uaddr2, int val3)
       {
           return syscall(SYS_futex, uaddr, futex_op, val,
                          timeout, uaddr, val3);
       }

       /* Acquire the futex pointed to by 'futexp': wait for its value to
          become 1, and then set the value to 0. */

       static void
       fwait(int *futexp)
       {
           int s;

           /* __sync_bool_compare_and_swap(ptr, oldval, newval) is a gcc
              built-in function.  It atomically performs the equivalent of:

                  if (*ptr == oldval)
                      *ptr = newval;

              It returns true if the test yielded true and *ptr was updated.
              The alternative here would be to employ the equivalent atomic
              machine-language instructions.  For further information, see
              the GCC Manual. */

           while (1) {

               /* Is the futex available? */

               if (__sync_bool_compare_and_swap(futexp, 1, 0))
                   break;      /* Yes */

               /* Futex is not available; wait */

               s = futex(futexp, FUTEX_WAIT, 0, NULL, NULL, 0);
               if (s == -1 && errno != EAGAIN)
                   errExit("futex-FUTEX_WAIT");
           }
       }

       /* Release the futex pointed to by 'futexp': if the futex currently
          has the value 0, set its value to 1 and the wake any futex waiters,
          so that if the peer is blocked in fpost(), it can proceed. */

       static void
       fpost(int *futexp)
       {
           int s;

           /* __sync_bool_compare_and_swap() was described in comments above */

           if (__sync_bool_compare_and_swap(futexp, 0, 1)) {

               s = futex(futexp, FUTEX_WAKE, 1, NULL, NULL, 0);
               if (s  == -1)
                   errExit("futex-FUTEX_WAKE");
           }
       }

       int
       main(int argc, char *argv[])
       {
           pid_t childPid;
           int j, nloops;

           setbuf(stdout, NULL);

           nloops = (argc > 1) ? atoi(argv[1]) : 5;

           /* Create a shared anonymous mapping that will hold the futexes.
              Since the futexes are being shared between processes, we
              subsequently use the "shared" futex operations (i.e., not the
              ones suffixed "_PRIVATE") */

           iaddr = mmap(NULL, sizeof(int) * 2, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE,
                       MAP_ANONYMOUS | MAP_SHARED, -1, 0);
           if (iaddr == MAP_FAILED)
               errExit("mmap");

           futex1 = &iaddr[0];
           futex2 = &iaddr[1];

           *futex1 = 0;        /* State: unavailable */
           *futex2 = 1;        /* State: available */

           /* Create a child process that inherits the shared anonymous
              mapping */

           childPid = fork();
           if (childPid == -1)
               errExit("fork");

           if (childPid == 0) {        /* Child */
               for (j = 0; j < nloops; j++) {
                   fwait(futex1);
                   printf("Child  (%ld) %d\n", (long) getpid(), j);
                   fpost(futex2);
               }

               exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
           }

           /* Parent falls through to here */

           for (j = 0; j < nloops; j++) {
               fwait(futex2);
               printf("Parent (%ld) %d\n", (long) getpid(), j);
               fpost(futex1);
           }

           wait(NULL);

           exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
       }

SEE ALSO
       get_robust_list(2), restart_syscall(2), futex(7)

       The following kernel source files:

       * Documentation/pi-futex.txt

       * Documentation/futex-requeue-pi.txt

       * Documentation/locking/rt-mutex.txt

       * Documentation/locking/rt-mutex-design.txt

       * Documentation/robust-futex-ABI.txt

       Franke, H., Russell, R., and Kirwood, M., 2002.  Fuss, Futexes
       and Furwocks: Fast Userlevel Locking in Linux (from proceedings
       of the Ottawa Linux Symposium 2002),
       ⟨http://kernel.org/doc/ols/2002/ols2002-pages-479-495.pdf⟩

       Hart, D., 2009. A futex overview and update,
       ⟨http://lwn.net/Articles/360699/⟩

       Hart, D. and Guniguntala, D., 2009.  Requeue-PI: Making Glibc
       Condvars PI-Aware (from proceedings of the 2009 Real-Time Linux
       Workshop),
       ⟨http://lwn.net/images/conf/rtlws11/papers/proc/p10.pdf⟩

       Drepper, U., 2011. Futexes Are Tricky,
       ⟨http://www.akkadia.org/drepper/futex.pdf⟩

       Futex example library, futex-*.tar.bz2 at
       ⟨ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rusty/⟩

.\" FIXME Are there any other resources that should be listed
.\"       in the SEE ALSO section?

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

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  2015-07-27 12:07 Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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  2015-07-28 20:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
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  To: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>        FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME (since Linux 2.6.28)
>               This   option   bit   can   be   employed  only  with  the
>               FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET and FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI operations.
> 
>               If this option is set, the kernel  treats  timeout  as  an
>               absolute time based on CLOCK_REALTIME.
> 
> .\" FIXME XXX I added CLOCK_MONOTONIC below. Okay?
>               If  this  option  is not set, the kernel treats timeout as
>               relative time, measured against the CLOCK_MONOTONIC clock.

That's correct.

>        The operation specified in futex_op is one of the following:
> 
>        FUTEX_WAIT (since Linux 2.6.0)
>               This operation tests that the  value  at  the  futex  word
>               pointed  to  by  the  address  uaddr  still  contains  the
>               expected value  val,  and  if  so,  then  sleeps  awaiting
>               FUTEX_WAKE  on  the  futex word.  The load of the value of
>               the futex word is an atomic  memory  access  (i.e.,  using
>               atomic  machine  instructions  of the respective architec‐
>               ture).  This load, the comparison with the expected value,
>               and starting to sleep are performed atomically and totally
>               ordered with respect to other futex operations on the same
>               futex  word.  If the thread starts to sleep, it is consid‐
>               ered a waiter on this futex word.  If the futex value does
>               not  match  val,  then the call fails immediately with the
>               error EAGAIN.
> 
>               The purpose of the comparison with the expected  value  is
>               to  prevent  lost  wake-ups: If another thread changed the
>               value of the futex word after the calling  thread  decided
>               to block based on the prior value, and if the other thread
>               executed a FUTEX_WAKE operation (or similar wake-up) after
>               the  value  change  and  before this FUTEX_WAIT operation,
>               then the latter will observe the value change and will not
>               start to sleep.
> 
>               If  the timeout argument is non-NULL, its contents specify
>               a relative timeout for the wait, measured according to the
> .\" FIXME XXX I added CLOCK_MONOTONIC below. Okay?

Yes.

>               CLOCK_MONOTONIC  clock.  (This interval will be rounded up
>               to the system clock  granularity,  and  kernel  scheduling
>               delays  mean  that  the blocking interval may overrun by a
>               small amount.)

		The given wait time will be rounded up to the system
		clock granularity and is guaranteed not to expire
		early.

There are a gazillion reasons why it can expire late, but the
guarantee is that it never expires prematurely.

>		  If timeout is NULL, the call blocks indef‐
>               initely.

Right.
 
>               The arguments uaddr2 and val3 are ignored.
> 
> 
>        FUTEX_WAKE (since Linux 2.6.0)
>               This  operation  wakes at most val of the waiters that are
>               waiting (e.g., inside FUTEX_WAIT) on the futex word at the
>               address  uaddr.  Most commonly, val is specified as either
>               1 (wake up a single waiter) or INT_MAX (wake up all  wait‐
>               ers).   No  guarantee  is provided about which waiters are
>               awoken (e.g., a waiter with a higher  scheduling  priority
>               is  not  guaranteed to be awoken in preference to a waiter
>               with a lower priority).

That's only correct up to Linux 2.6.21.

Since 2.6.22 we have a priority ordered wakeup. For SCHED_OTHER
threads this takes the nice level into account. Threads with the same
priority are woken in FIFO order.
 
>               The arguments timeout, uaddr2, and val3 are ignored.
 
> 
>        FUTEX_FD (from Linux 2.6.0 up to and including Linux 2.6.25)
>               This operation creates a file descriptor that  is  associ‐
>               ated  with  the futex at uaddr.  The caller must close the
>               returned file descriptor after use.  When another  process
>               or  thread  performs  a  FUTEX_WAKE on the futex word, the
>               file  descriptor  indicates   as   being   readable   with
>               select(2), poll(2), and epoll(7)
> 
>               The  file  descriptor  can  be used to obtain asynchronous
>               notifications:  if  val  is  nonzero,  then  when  another
>               process  or  thread executes a FUTEX_WAKE, the caller will
>               receive the signal number that was passed in val.
> 
>               The arguments timeout, uaddr2 and val3 are ignored.
> 
> .\" FIXME(Torvald) We never define "upped".  Maybe just remove the
> .\"      following sentence?
>               To prevent race conditions, the caller should test if  the
>               futex has been upped after FUTEX_FD returns.

Yes, just remove it.
 
>               Because  it was inherently racy, FUTEX_FD has been removed
>               from Linux 2.6.26 onward.
> 
>        FUTEX_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.0)
> .\" FIXME(Torvald) Is there some indication that FUTEX_REQUEUE is broken
> .\"     in general, or is this comment implicitly speaking about the
> .\"     condvar (?) use case? If the latter we might want to weaken the
> .\"     advice below a little.
> .\" [Anyone else have input on this?]

The condvar use case exposes the flaw nicely, but that's pretty much
true for everything which wants a sane requeue operation.

>               Avoid using this operation.  It is broken for its intended
>               purpose.  Use FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE instead.
> 
>               This    operation    performs    the    same    task    as
>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE, except that no check is made using  the
>               value in val3.  (The argument val3 is ignored.)
> 
>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.7)
>               This  operation  first  checks  whether the location uaddr
>               still contains the value  val3.   If  not,  the  operation
>               fails  with  the  error  EAGAIN.  Otherwise, the operation
>               wakes up a maximum of val waiters that are waiting on  the
>               futex  at uaddr.  If there are more than val waiters, then
>               the remaining waiters are removed from the wait  queue  of
>               the  source  futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue of
>               the target futex at uaddr2.  The val2  argument  specifies
>               an  upper limit on the number of waiters that are requeued
>               to the futex at uaddr2.
> 
> .\" FIXME(Torvald) Is the following correct?  Or is just the decision
> .\" which threads to wake or requeue part of the atomic operation?
> 
>               The load from uaddr is  an  atomic  memory  access  (i.e.,
>               using atomic machine instructions of the respective archi‐
>               tecture).  This load, the comparison with  val3,  and  the
>               requeueing  of  any  waiters  are performed atomically and
>               totally ordered with respect to other  operations  on  the
>               same futex word.

It's atomic as the other atomic operations on the futex word. It's
always performed with the proper lock(s) held in the kernel. That
means any concurrent operation will serialize on that lock(s). User
space has to make sure, that depending on the observed value no
concurrent operations happen, but that's something the kernel cannot
control.
 
>               This  operation was added as a replacement for the earlier
>               FUTEX_REQUEUE.  The difference is that the  check  of  the
>               value  at uaddr can be used to ensure that requeueing hap‐
>               pens only under certain conditions.  Both  operations  can
>               be   used   to  avoid  a  "thundering  herd"  effect  when
>               FUTEX_WAKE is used and all of the waiters that  are  woken
>               need to acquire another futex.
> 
> .\" FIXME Please review the following new paragraph to see if it is
> .\"       accurate.
>               Typical  values to specify for val are 0 or or 1.  (Speci‐
>               fying INT_MAX is not useful, because  it  would  make  the
>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE  operation  equivalent  to  FUTEX_WAKE.)
>               The limit value specified via val2 is typically  either  1
>               or  INT_MAX.  (Specifying the argument as 0 is not useful,
>               because it  would  make  the  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE  operation
>               equivalent to FUTEX_WAIT.)

It's correct.

> .\" FIXME Here, it would be helpful to have an example of how
> .\"       FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE might be used, at the same time illustrating
> .\"       why FUTEX_WAKE is unsuitable for the same use case.

Waiters:

  lock(A)
  while (!check_value(V)) {
  	unlock(A);
	block_on(B);
	lock(A);
  };
  unlock(A);

Note: B is a wait queue implemented with futexes.
 
If the waker would use FUTEX_WAKE and wake all waiters waiting on B
then those would all try to acquire lock A. That's called thundering
herd and pointless because all except one would immediately block on
lock A again.

Requeueing prevents that because it only wakes one waiter and moves
the other waiters to lock A. When that waiter unlocks A then the next
waiter can proceed ...

>        FUTEX_WAKE_OP (since Linux 2.6.14)
> .\" FIXME I added a lengthy piece of text on FUTEX_WAKE_OP text,
> .\"       and I'd be happy if someone checked it.
> .\"
> .\" FIXME(Torvald) The glibc condvar implementation is currently being
> .\"     revised (e.g., to not use an internal lock anymore).
> .\"     It is probably more future-proof to remove this paragraph.
> .\" [Torvald, do you have an update here?]
> .\"
>               This  operation  was  added to support some user-space use
>               cases where more than one futex must  be  handled  at  the
>               same time.  The most notable example is the implementation
>               of pthread_cond_signal(3), which  requires  operations  on
>               two  futexes,  the one used to implement the mutex and the
>               one used in the implementation of the wait  queue  associ‐
>               ated  with  the  condition variable.  FUTEX_WAKE_OP allows
>               such cases to be implemented without leading to high rates
>               of contention and context switching.
> 
>               The FUTEX_WAIT_OP operation is equivalent to executing the
>               following code atomically and totally ordered with respect
>               to other futex operations on any of the two supplied futex
>               words:
> 
>                   int oldval = *(int *) uaddr2;
>                   *(int *) uaddr2 = oldval op oparg;
>                   futex(uaddr, FUTEX_WAKE, val, 0, 0, 0);
>                   if (oldval cmp cmparg)
>                       futex(uaddr2, FUTEX_WAKE, val2, 0, 0, 0);
> 
>               In other words, FUTEX_WAIT_OP does the following:
> 
>               *  saves the original value of the futex  word  at  uaddr2
>                  and  performs  an  operation to modify the value of the
>                  futex at uaddr2; this is  an  atomic  read-modify-write
>                  memory  access (i.e., using atomic machine instructions
>                  of the respective architecture)
> 
>               *  wakes up a maximum of val waiters on the futex for  the
>                  futex word at uaddr; and
> 
>               *  dependent  on  the  results  of  a test of the original
>                  value of the futex word at uaddr2, wakes up  a  maximum
>                  of  val2  waiters  on  the  futex for the futex word at
>                  uaddr2.
> 
>               The operation and comparison that are to be performed  are
>               encoded  in  the  bits of the argument val3.  Pictorially,
>               the encoding is:
> 
>                       +---+---+-----------+-----------+
>                       |op |cmp|   oparg   |  cmparg   |
>                       +---+---+-----------+-----------+
>                         4   4       12          12    <== # of bits
> 
>               Expressed in code, the encoding is:
> 
>                   #define FUTEX_OP(op, oparg, cmp, cmparg) \
>                                   (((op & 0xf) << 28) | \
>                                   ((cmp & 0xf) << 24) | \
>                                   ((oparg & 0xfff) << 12) | \
>                                   (cmparg & 0xfff))
> 
>               In the above, op and cmp are each one of the codes  listed
>               below.   The  oparg  and  cmparg  components  are  literal
>               numeric values, except as noted below.
> 
>               The op component has one of the following values:
> 
>                   FUTEX_OP_SET        0  /* uaddr2 = oparg; */
>                   FUTEX_OP_ADD        1  /* uaddr2 += oparg; */
>                   FUTEX_OP_OR         2  /* uaddr2 |= oparg; */
>                   FUTEX_OP_ANDN       3  /* uaddr2 &= ~oparg; */
>                   FUTEX_OP_XOR        4  /* uaddr2 ^= oparg; */
> 
>               In addition, bit-wise ORing the following  value  into  op
>               causes (1 << oparg) to be used as the operand:
> 
>                   FUTEX_OP_ARG_SHIFT  8  /* Use (1 << oparg) as operand */
> 
>               The cmp field is one of the following:
> 
>                   FUTEX_OP_CMP_EQ     0  /* if (oldval == cmparg) wake */
>                   FUTEX_OP_CMP_NE     1  /* if (oldval != cmparg) wake */
>                   FUTEX_OP_CMP_LT     2  /* if (oldval < cmparg) wake */
>                   FUTEX_OP_CMP_LE     3  /* if (oldval <= cmparg) wake */
>                   FUTEX_OP_CMP_GT     4  /* if (oldval > cmparg) wake */
>                   FUTEX_OP_CMP_GE     5  /* if (oldval >= cmparg) wake */
> 
>               The return value of FUTEX_WAKE_OP is the sum of the number
>               of waiters woken on the futex uaddr  plus  the  number  of
>               waiters woken on the futex uaddr2.
> 
>        FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET (since Linux 2.6.25)
>               This operation is like FUTEX_WAIT except that val3 is used
>               to provide a 32-bit bitset to the kernel.  This bitset  is
>               stored  in  the  kernel-internal state of the waiter.  See
>               the description of FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET for further details.
> 
>               The FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET operation also interprets the  time‐
>               out argument differently from FUTEX_WAIT.  See the discus‐
>               sion of FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME, above.
> 
>               The uaddr2 argument is ignored.
> 
>        FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET (since Linux 2.6.25)
>               This operation is the same as FUTEX_WAKE except  that  the
>               val3  argument  is  used to provide a 32-bit bitset to the
>               kernel.  This bitset  is  used  to  select  which  waiters
>               should  be  woken up.  The selection is done by a bit-wise
>               AND of the "wake" bitset (i.e., the value in val3) and the
>               bitset which is stored in the kernel-internal state of the
>               waiter   (the   "wait"   bitset   that   is   set    using
>               FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET).   All  of  the  waiters  for which the
>               result of the AND is nonzero are woken up;  the  remaining
>               waiters are left sleeping.
> 
> .\" FIXME XXX Is this next paragraph that I added okay?
>               The  effect  of FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET and FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET is
>               to allow selective wake-ups among  multiple  waiters  that
>               are  blocked on the same futex.  Note, however, that using
>               this bitset multiplexing feature on a futex is less  effi‐
>               cient  than simply using multiple futexes, because employ‐

		s/is less efficient/can be less efficient/

It really depends on the usecase.

>               ing bitset multiplexing requires the kernel to  check  all
>               waiters  on  a  futex, including those that are not inter‐
>               ested in being woken up (i.e., they do not have the  rele‐
>               vant bit set in their "wait" bitset).
> 
>               The uaddr2 and timeout arguments are ignored.
> 
>               The  FUTEX_WAIT  and  FUTEX_WAKE  operations correspond to
>               FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET and FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET  operations  where
>               the bitsets are all ones.
> 
>    Priority-inheritance futexes
>        Linux supports priority-inheritance (PI) futexes in order to han‐
>        dle priority-inversion problems that can be encountered with nor‐
>        mal  futex  locks.  Priority inversion is the problem that occurs
>        when a high-priority task is blocked waiting to  acquire  a  lock
>        held  by a low-priority task, while tasks at an intermediate pri‐
>        ority continuously preempt the low-priority task  from  the  CPU.
>        Consequently,  the  low-priority  task  makes  no progress toward
>        releasing the lock, and the high-priority task remains blocked.
> 
>        Priority inheritance is a mechanism for dealing with  the  prior‐
>        ity-inversion problem.  With this mechanism, when a high-priority
>        task becomes blocked by a lock held by a low-priority  task,  the
>        latter's priority is temporarily raised to that of the former, so
>        that it is not preempted by any intermediate level tasks, and can
>        thus  make  progress toward releasing the lock.  To be effective,
>        priority inheritance must be transitive, meaning that if a  high-
>        priority task blocks on a lock held by a lower-priority task that
>        is itself blocked by lock held by  another  intermediate-priority
>        task  (and  so  on, for chains of arbitrary length), then both of
>        those task (or more generally, all of the tasks in a lock  chain)
>        have  their priorities raised to be the same as the high-priority
>        task.
> 
> .\" FIXME XXX The following is my attempt at a definition of PI futexes,
> .\"       based on mail discussions with Darren Hart. Does it seem okay?
> 
>        From a user-space perspective, what makes a futex PI-aware  is  a
>        policy  agreement  between  user  space  and the kernel about the
>        value of the futex word (described in a moment), coupled with the
>        use  of  the  PI futex operations described below (in particular,
>        FUTEX_LOCK_PI, FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI, and FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI).
> 
> .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> .\"       The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
> .\"       (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
> .\"       significantly. Please check it.
> 
>        The PI futex operations described below  differ  from  the  other
>        futex  operations  in  that  they impose policy on the use of the
>        value of the futex word:
> 
>        *  If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value  shall  be
>           0.
> 
>        *  If  the  lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
>           thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
> 
>        *  If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for  the
>           lock,  then  the  FUTEX_WAITERS  bit shall be set in the futex
>           word's value; in other words, this value is:
> 
>               FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
> 
> 
>        Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
>        which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.
> 
>        With this policy in place, a user-space application can acquire a
>        not-acquired lock or release a lock that no other threads try  to
>        acquire using atomic instructions executed in user space (e.g., a
>        compare-and-swap operation such as cmpxchg on the  x86  architec‐
>        ture).   Acquiring  a  lock simply consists of using compare-and-
>        swap to atomically set the futex word's value to the caller's TID
>        if  its  previous  value  was 0.  Releasing a lock requires using
>        compare-and-swap to set the futex word's value to 0 if the previ‐
>        ous value was the expected TID.
> 
>        If a futex is already acquired (i.e., has a nonzero value), wait‐
>        ers must employ the FUTEX_LOCK_PI operation to acquire the  lock.
>        If other threads are waiting for the lock, then the FUTEX_WAITERS
>        bit is set in the futex value; in this case, the lock owner  must
>        employ the FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI operation to release the lock.
> 
>        In  the  cases  where  callers  are forced into the kernel (i.e.,
>        required to perform a futex() call), they then deal directly with
>        a so-called RT-mutex, a kernel locking mechanism which implements
>        the required priority-inheritance semantics.  After the  RT-mutex
>        is  acquired,  the futex value is updated accordingly, before the
>        calling thread returns to user space.
> .\" FIXME ===== End of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====

That's correct.

> .\" FIXME We need some explanation in the following paragraph of *why*
> .\"       it is important to note that "the kernel will update the
> .\"       futex word's value prior
>        It is important to note to returning to user space" . Can someone
>        explain?   that  the  kernel  will  update the futex word's value
>        prior to returning to user space.  Unlike the other futex  opera‐
>        tions  described  above, the PI futex operations are designed for
>        the implementation of very specific IPC mechanisms.

If there are multiple waiters on a pi futex then a wake pi operation
will wake the first waiter and hand over the lock to this waiter. This
includes handing over the rtmutex which represents the futex in the
kernel. The strict requirement is that the futex owner and the rtmutex
owner must be the same, except for the update period which is
serialized by the futex internal locking. That means the kernel must
update the user space value prior to returning to user space.

> .\"
> .\" FIXME XXX In discussing errors for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, Darren Hart
> .\"       made the observation that "EINVAL is returned if the non-pi 
> .\"       to pi or op pairing semantics are violated."
> .\"       Probably there needs to be a general statement about this
> .\"       requirement, probably located at about this point in the page.
> .\"       Darren (or someone else), care to take a shot at this?

Well, that's hard to describe because the kernel only has a limited
way of detecting such mismatches. It only can detect it when there are
non PI waiters on a futex and a PI function is called or vice versa.

> .\" FIXME Somewhere on this page (I guess under the discussion of PI
> .\"       futexes) we need a discussion of the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit.
> .\"       Can someone propose a text?

If a futex has a rtmutex associated in the kernel, i.e. when there are
blocked waiters, and the owner of the futex/rtmutex dies unexpectedly,
then the kernel cleans up the rtmutex (as it holds a reference to the
dying task) and hands it over to the next waiter. That requires that
the user space value is updated accordingly. The kernel sets the
FUTEX_OWNER_DIED in the user space value along with the TID of the new
owner. User space is responsible for cleaning this up, though there
are cases where the kernel does the cleanup.
 
The FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit can also be set on uncontended futexes, where
the kernel has no state associated. This happens via the robust futex
mechanism. In that case the futex value will be set to
FUTEX_OWNER_DIED. The robust futex mechanism is also available for non
PI futexes.
 
>        PI futexes are operated on by specifying  one  of  the  following
>        values in futex_op:
> 
>        FUTEX_LOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
> .\" FIXME I did some significant rewording of tglx's text to create
> .\"       the text below.
> .\"       Please check the following paragraph, in case I injected
> .\"       errors.
>               This  operation  is used after after an attempt to acquire
>               the lock  via  an  atomic  user-space  instruction  failed
>               because  the  futex word has a nonzero value—specifically,
>               because it contained the  namespace-specific  TID  of  the
>               lock owner.
> .\" FIXME In the preceding line, what does "namespace-specific" mean?
> .\"       (I kept those words from tglx.)
> .\"       That is, what kind of namespace are we talking about?
> .\"       (I suppose we are talking PID namespaces here, but I want to
> .\"       be sure.)

Yes.
 
>               The  operation  checks  the value of the futex word at the
>               address uaddr.  If the value is 0, then the  kernel  tries
>               to atomically set the futex value to the caller's TID.  
> .\" FIXME What would be the cause(s) of failure referred to
> .\"       in the following sentence?
>               If
>               that fails, or the futex word's value is nonzero, the ker‐

'If that fails' does not make sense. If the user space access fails we
return -EFAULT and let user space deal with the mess.

The operation here is similar to the FUTEX_WAIT logic. When the user
space atomic acquire does not succeed because the futex value was non
zero, then the waiter goes into the kernel, takes the kernel internal
lock and retries the acquisition under the lock. If the acquisition
does not succeed either, then it sets the FUTEX_WAITERS bit, to signal
the lock owner that it needs to go into the kernel. Here is the pseudo
code:

		lock(kernel_lock);
	retry:
		
		/*
		 * Owner might have unlocked in userspace before we
		 * were able to set the waiter bit.
		 */
		if (atomic_acquire(futex) == SUCCESS) {
		   unlock(kernel_lock());
		   return 0;
		}

		/*
		 * Owner might have unlocked after the above atomic_acquire()
		 * attempt.
		 */
		if (atomic_set_waiters_bit(futex) != SUCCESS)
		   goto retry;

		queue_waiter();
		unlock(kernel_lock);
		block();   

>               nel  atomically  sets the FUTEX_WAITERS bit, which signals
>               the futex owner that it cannot unlock the  futex  in  user
>               space  atomically  by setting the futex value to 0.  After
>               that, the kernel tries to find the thread which is associ‐
>               ated with the owner TID, creates or reuses kernel state on
>               behalf of the owner and attaches the waiter  to  it.   
> .\" FIXME Could I get a bit more detail on the previous lines?
> .\"       What is "creates or reuses kernel state" about?
> .\"       (I think this needs to be clearer in the page)

If this is the first waiter then there is no kernel state for this
futex, so it is created. That means the rtmutex is locked and the
futex owner established as the owner of the rtmutex. If there is a
waiter, then the state is reused, i.e. the new waiter is enqueued into
the rtmutex waiter list.
 
> .\" FIXME In the next line, what type of "priority" are we talking about?
> .\"       Realtime priorities for SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR?
> .\"       Or something else?
> 
>               The
>               enqueueing  of  the waiter is in descending priority order
>               if more than one waiter exists.  

That also covers sched deadline.

> .\" FIXME In the next sentence, what type of "priority" are we talking about?
> .\"       Realtime priorities for SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR?
> .\"       Or something else?
> .\" FIXME What does "bandwidth" refer to in the next sentence?
> 
>               The owner inherits either
>               the priority or the bandwidth of the waiter.  

If the highest priority waiter is SCHED_DEADLINE, then the owner
inherits cpu bandwidth from the waiter as there is no priority
associated to SCHED_DEADLINE tasks.

If the highest priority waiter is SCHED_FIFO/RR, then the owner
inherits the waiter priority.


> .\" FIXME In the preceding sentence, what determines whether the
> .\"       owner inherits the priority versus the bandwidth?
> 
> .\" FIXME Could I get some help translating the next sentence into
> .\"       something that user-space developers (and I) can understand?
> .\"       In particular, what are "nested locks" in this context?
> 
>               This inheri‐
>               tance follows the lock chain in the case of nested locking
>               and performs deadlock detection.

T1 blocks on lock A held by T2
T2 blocks on lock B held by T3

So we have a lock chain A, B. The inheritance mechanism follows the
lock chain and propagates the highest waiter priority up to the end of
the chain.
 
> .\" FIXME tglx said "The timeout argument is handled as described in
> .\"       FUTEX_WAIT." However, it appears to me that this is not right.
> .\"       Is the following formulation correct?
>               The  timeout  argument  provides  a  timeout  for the lock
>               attempt.  It is interpreted as an absolute time,  measured
>               against the CLOCK_REALTIME clock.  If timeout is NULL, the
>               operation will block indefinitely.

Indeed.
 
>               The uaddr2, val, and val3 arguments are ignored.
> 
>        FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
> .\" FIXME I think it would be helpful here to say a few more words about
> .\"       the difference(s) between FUTEX_LOCK_PI and FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI.
> .\"       Can someone propose something?
>               This operation tries to acquire the futex  at  uaddr.   It
>               deals  with  the situation where the TID value at uaddr is
>               0, but the FUTEX_WAITERS bit is set.   User  space  cannot
>               handle this condition in a race-free manner
> .\" FIXME How does the situation in the previous sentence come about?
> .\"       Probably it would be helpful to say something about that in
> .\"       the man page.
> .\" FIXME And *how* does FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI deal with this situation?

That should be expressed differently:

     	    This operation tries to acquire the futex at uaddr. It's
     	    invoked when the user space atomic acquire did not
     	    succeed because the user space value was not 0.

	    The trylock in kernel might succeed because the user space
	    value contains stale state (FUTEX_WAITERS and or
	    FUTEX_OWNER_DIED). This can happen when the owner of the
	    futex died.

>               The uaddr2, val, timeout, and val3 arguments are ignored.
> 
>        FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
>               This operation wakes the top priority waiter that is wait‐
>               ing in FUTEX_LOCK_PI on the futex address provided by  the
>               uaddr argument.
> 
>               This  is  called when the user space value at uaddr cannot
>               be changed atomically from a TID (of the owner) to 0.
> 
>               The uaddr2, val, timeout, and val3 arguments are ignored.
> 
>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
>               This operation is a PI-aware variant of FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE.
>               It    requeues    waiters    that    are    blocked    via
>               FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI on uaddr from a non-PI source  futex
>               (uaddr) to a PI target futex (uaddr2).
> 
>               As with FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE, this operation wakes up a maxi‐
>               mum of val waiters that are waiting on the futex at uaddr.
>               However, for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, val is required to be 1
>               (since the main point is to avoid a thundering herd).  The
>               remaining  waiters  are removed from the wait queue of the
>               source futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue  of  the
>               target futex at uaddr2.
> 
>               The val2 and val3 arguments serve the same purposes as for
>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE.
> .\" FIXME The page at http://locklessinc.com/articles/futex_cheat_sheet/
> .\"       notes that "priority-inheritance Futex to priority-inheritance
> .\"       Futex requeues are currently unsupported". Do we need to say
> .\"       something in the man page about that?
> 

And they never will be supported because they make no sense at all.  

> 
>        FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
> 
> .\" FIXME I find the next sentence (from tglx) pretty hard to grok.
> .\"       Could someone explain it a bit more?
> 
>               Wait operation to wait on a  non-PI  futex  at  uaddr  and
>               potentially  be  requeued  onto a PI futex at uaddr2.  The
>               wait operation on uaddr is the same  as  FUTEX_WAIT.

let me copy the pseudo code from cmp_requeue 

  lock(A)
  while (!check_value(V)) {
  	unlock(A);
	block_on(B);
	lock(A);
  };
  unlock(A);

So in this case B is the non-PI futex (the wait queue) and A is a PI
futex. So wait operation on B is the same as in FUTEX_WAIT.
   
> 
> .\" FIXME I'm not quite clear on the meaning of the following sentence.
> .\"       Is this trying to say that while blocked in a
> .\"       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI, it could happen that another
> .\"       task does a FUTEX_WAKE on uaddr that simply causes
> .\"       a normal wake, with the result that the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> .\"       does not complete? What happens then to the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> .\"       opertion? Does it remain blocked, or does it unblock
> .\"       In which case, what does user space see?

It unblocks and returns -EWOULDBLOCK.
 
>               The
>               waiter   can  be  removed  from  the  wait  on  uaddr  via
>               FUTEX_WAKE without requeueing on uaddr2.
 
> .\" FIXME Please check the following. tglx said "The timeout argument
> .\"       is handled as described in FUTEX_WAIT.", but the truth is
> .\"       as below, AFAICS
> 
>               If timeout is not NULL, it specifies  a  timeout  for  the
>               wait  operation;  this  timeout is interpreted as outlined
>               above  in  the  description  of  the  FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME
>               option.   If  timeout  is  NULL,  the  operation can block
>               indefinitely.
> 
>               The val3 argument is ignored.

Correct
 
> .\" FIXME Re the preceding sentence... Actually 'val3' is internally set to
> .\"       FUTEX_BITSET_MATCH_ANY before calling futex_wait_requeue_pi().
> .\"       I'm not sure we need to say anything about this though.
> .\"       Comments?

That's a kernel internal and can be removed
 
> 
>               The FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI  and  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI  were
>               added  to  support a fairly specific use case: support for
>               priority-inheritance-aware POSIX threads  condition  vari‐
>               ables.  The idea is that these operations should always be
>               paired, in order to ensure that user space and the  kernel
>               remain in sync.  Thus, in the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI opera‐
>               tion, the user-space application pre-specifies the  target
>               of    the    requeue    that    takes    place    in   the
>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI operation.
> 
> RETURN VALUE
>        In the event of an error (and assuming that futex()  was  invoked
>        via  syscall(2)), all operations return -1 and set errno to indi‐
>        cate the cause of the error.  The return value on success depends
>        on the operation, as described in the following list:
> 
>        FUTEX_WAIT
>               Returns 0 if the caller was woken up.  Note that a wake-up
>               can also be caused by common futex usage patterns in unre‐
>               lated code that happened to have previously used the futex
>               word's memory location (e.g., typical  futex-based  imple‐
>               mentations  of  Pthreads mutexes can cause this under some
>               conditions).  Therefore, callers should  always  conserva‐
>               tively assume that a return value of 0 can mean a spurious
>               wake-up, and use the futex word's value  (i.e.,  the  user
>               space synchronization scheme)
>                   to decide whether to continue to block or not.
> 
>        FUTEX_WAKE
>               Returns the number of waiters that were woken up.
> 
>        FUTEX_FD
>               Returns the new file descriptor associated with the futex.
> 
>        FUTEX_REQUEUE
>               Returns the number of waiters that were woken up.
> 
>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE
>               Returns  the total number of waiters that were woken up or
>               requeued to the futex for the futex word  at  uaddr2.   If
>               this  value  is  greater  than val, then difference is the
>               number of waiters requeued to the futex for the futex word
>               at uaddr2.
> 
>        FUTEX_WAKE_OP
>               Returns  the  total  number of waiters that were woken up.
>               This is the sum of the woken waiters on  the  two  futexes
>               for the futex words at uaddr and uaddr2.
> 
>        FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET
>               Returns  0 if the caller was woken up.  See FUTEX_WAIT for
>               how to interpret this correctly in practice.
> 
>        FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET
>               Returns the number of waiters that were woken up.
> 
>        FUTEX_LOCK_PI
>               Returns 0 if the futex was successfully locked.
> 
>        FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI
>               Returns 0 if the futex was successfully locked.
> 
>        FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI
>               Returns 0 if the futex was successfully unlocked.
> 
>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI
>               Returns the total number of waiters that were woken up  or
>               requeued  to  the  futex for the futex word at uaddr2.  If
>               this value is greater than val,  then  difference  is  the
>               number of waiters requeued to the futex for the futex word
>               at uaddr2.
> 
>        FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
>               Returns 0 if the caller was successfully requeued  to  the
>               futex for the futex word at uaddr2.
> 
> ERRORS
>        EACCES No read access to the memory of a futex word.
> 
>        EAGAIN (FUTEX_WAIT, FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET, FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI) The
>               value pointed to by uaddr was not equal  to  the  expected
>               value val at the time of the call.
> 
>               Note:  on Linux, the symbolic names EAGAIN and EWOULDBLOCK
>               (both of which appear in different  parts  of  the  kernel
>               futex code) have the same value.
> 
>        EAGAIN (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE,    FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)   The   value
>               pointed to by uaddr is not equal  to  the  expected  value
>               val3.   (This  probably  indicates  a  race;  use the safe
>               FUTEX_WAKE now.)
> .\" FIXME: Is the preceding sentence "(This probably...") correct?
> .\" [I would prefer to remove this sentence. --triegel@redhat.com]

This part should be removed:

      "(This  probably  indicates  a  race;  use the safe FUTEX_WAKE now.)
 
> 
>        EAGAIN (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,  FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,   FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
>               The    futex    owner    thread    ID    of   uaddr   (for
>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI: uaddr2) is about to  exit,  but  has
>               not yet handled the internal state cleanup.  Try again.
> 
> .\" FIXME XXX Should there be an EAGAIN case for FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI?
> .\"       It seems so, looking at the handling of the rt_mutex_trylock()
> .\"       call in futex_lock_pi()
> .\"       (Davidlohr also thinks so.)

  Yes. It's the same internal logic so it can return EAGAIN
 
> 
>        EDEADLK
>               (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,   FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
>               The futex word at uaddr is already locked by the caller.
> 
>        EDEADLK
> 
> .\" FIXME I reworded tglx's text somewhat; is the following okay?
> 
>               (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) While requeueing a waiter to the PI
>               futex  for the futex word at uaddr2, the kernel detected a
>               deadlock.

Yes		

> 
> .\" FIXME XXX I see that kernel/locking/rtmutex.c uses EDEADLK in some
> .\"       places, and EDEADLOCK in others. On almost all architectures
> .\"       these constants are synonymous. Is there a reason that both
> .\"       names are used?

No. We should probably fix that.
 
>        EFAULT A required pointer argument (i.e., uaddr, uaddr2, or time‐
>               out) did not point to a valid user-space address.
> 
>        EINTR  A  FUTEX_WAIT  or  FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET  operation was inter‐
>               rupted by a signal (see  signal(7)).   In  kernels  before
>               Linux  2.6.22,  this error could also be returned for on a
>               spurious wakeup; since Linux 2.6.22, this no  longer  hap‐
>               pens.
> 
>        EINVAL The  operation  in futex_op is one of those that employs a
>               timeout, but the supplied  timeout  argument  was  invalid
>               (tv_sec  was  less than zero, or tv_nsec was not less than
>               1,000,000,000).
> 
>        EINVAL The operation specified in futex_op employs one or both of
>               the  pointers  uaddr and uaddr2, but one of these does not
>               point to a valid object—that is, the address is not  four-
>               byte-aligned.
> 
>        EINVAL (FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET, FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET) The bitset supplied
>               in val3 is zero.
> 
>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)  uaddr  equals  uaddr2  (i.e.,   an
>               attempt was made to requeue to the same futex).
> 
>        EINVAL (FUTEX_FD) The signal number supplied in val is invalid.
> 
>        EINVAL (FUTEX_WAKE,       FUTEX_WAKE_OP,       FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET,
>               FUTEX_REQUEUE, FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE) The kernel  detected  an
>               inconsistency  between  the  user-space state at uaddr and
>               the kernel state—that is, it detected a waiter which waits
>               in FUTEX_LOCK_PI on uaddr.
> 
>        EINVAL (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,   FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,  FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI)  The
>               kernel detected an inconsistency  between  the  user-space
>               state  at  uaddr  and  the  kernel  state.  This indicates
>               either state corruption or that the kernel found a  waiter
>               on    uaddr   which   is   waiting   via   FUTEX_WAIT   or
>               FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET.

> .\" FIXME Above, tglx did not mention the "state corruption" case for
> .\"       FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI, but I have added it, since I'm estimating
> .\"       that it also applied for FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI.
> .\"       So, does that case also apply for FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI?

Yes
 
> 
>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) The kernel  detected  an  inconsis‐
>               tency  between the user-space state at uaddr2 and the ker‐
>               nel state; that is, the kernel  detected  a  waiter  which
>               waits via FUTEX_WAIT on uaddr2.
> .\" FIXME In the preceding sentence, tglx did not mention FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET,
> .\"       but should that not also be included here?

Yes  	    
 
> 
>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)  The  kernel  detected an inconsis‐
>               tency between the user-space state at uaddr and the kernel
>               state;  that  is, the kernel detected a waiter which waits
>               via FUTEX_WAIT or FUTEX_WAIT_BITESET on uaddr.
> 
>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) The kernel  detected  an  inconsis‐
>               tency between the user-space state at uaddr and the kernel
>               state; that is, the kernel detected a waiter  which  waits
>               on     uaddr     via     FUTEX_LOCK_PI     (instead     of
>               FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI).
> 
> .\" FIXME XXX The following is a reworded version of Darren Hart's text.
> .\"       Please check that I did not introduce any errors.
>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) An attempt was made  to  requeue  a
>               waiter  to a futex other than that specified by the match‐
>               ing FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI call for that waiter.

Correct. That handles the case:

	 wait_requeue_pi(A, B);
	 requeue_pi(A, C);
 
>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) The val argument is not 1.
> 
>        EINVAL Invalid argument.
> 
>        ENOMEM (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,  FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,   FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
>               The  kernel could not allocate memory to hold state infor‐
>               mation.
> 
>        ENFILE (FUTEX_FD) The system limit on the total  number  of  open
>               files has been reached.
> 
>        ENOSYS Invalid operation specified in futex_op.
> 
>        ENOSYS The FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME option was specified in futex_op,
>               but the accompanying operation was neither FUTEX_WAIT_BIT‐
>               SET nor FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI.
> 
>        ENOSYS (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,     FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,     FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI,
>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI,  FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI)  A  run-time
>               check determined that the operation is not available.  The
>               PI futex operations are not implemented on  all  architec‐
>               tures and are not supported on some CPU variants.
> 
>        EPERM  (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,   FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
>               The caller is not allowed to attach itself to the futex at
>               uaddr  (for  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI:  the  futex at uaddr2).
>               (This may be caused by a state corruption in user space.)
> 
>        EPERM  (FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI) The caller does not own the lock  repre‐
>               sented by the futex word.
> 
>        ESRCH  (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,   FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
> 
> .\" FIXME I reworded the following sentence a bit differently from
> .\"       tglx's formulation. Is it okay?
> 
>               The thread ID in the futex word at uaddr does not exist.

Right.
 
>        ESRCH  (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) 
> 
> .\" FIXME I reworded the following sentence a bit differently from
> .\"       tglx's formulation. Is it okay?
> 
>               The thread ID in the futex word  at
>               uaddr2 does not exist.

Right
 
Thanks,

	tglx

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread

* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-07-28 20:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
@ 2015-07-28 20:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
  2015-07-28 21:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
  2015-07-29  2:09     ` Davidlohr Bueso
  2015-07-29  4:11   ` Darren Hart
  2015-08-08  6:53   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2015-07-28 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner
  Cc: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages),
	Darren Hart, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar,
	Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann,
	Steven Rostedt, Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard,
	Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner,
	Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell,
	Heinrich Schuchardt

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:23:51PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:

> >        FUTEX_WAKE (since Linux 2.6.0)
> >               This  operation  wakes at most val of the waiters that are
> >               waiting (e.g., inside FUTEX_WAIT) on the futex word at the
> >               address  uaddr.  Most commonly, val is specified as either
> >               1 (wake up a single waiter) or INT_MAX (wake up all  wait‐
> >               ers).   No  guarantee  is provided about which waiters are
> >               awoken (e.g., a waiter with a higher  scheduling  priority
> >               is  not  guaranteed to be awoken in preference to a waiter
> >               with a lower priority).
> 
> That's only correct up to Linux 2.6.21.
> 
> Since 2.6.22 we have a priority ordered wakeup. For SCHED_OTHER
> threads this takes the nice level into account. Threads with the same
> priority are woken in FIFO order.

Maybe don't mention the effects of SCHED_OTHER, order by nice value is
'wrong'.

Also, this code seems to use plist, which means it won't do the right
thing for SCHED_DEADLINE either.

Do we want to go fix that?

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread

* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-07-28 20:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2015-07-28 21:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
  2015-08-08  6:56       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2015-07-29  2:09     ` Davidlohr Bueso
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2015-07-28 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Zijlstra
  Cc: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages),
	Darren Hart, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar,
	Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann,
	Steven Rostedt, Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard,
	Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner,
	Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell,
	Heinrich Schuchardt

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On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:23:51PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> 
> > >        FUTEX_WAKE (since Linux 2.6.0)
> > >               This  operation  wakes at most val of the waiters that are
> > >               waiting (e.g., inside FUTEX_WAIT) on the futex word at the
> > >               address  uaddr.  Most commonly, val is specified as either
> > >               1 (wake up a single waiter) or INT_MAX (wake up all  wait‐
> > >               ers).   No  guarantee  is provided about which waiters are
> > >               awoken (e.g., a waiter with a higher  scheduling  priority
> > >               is  not  guaranteed to be awoken in preference to a waiter
> > >               with a lower priority).
> > 
> > That's only correct up to Linux 2.6.21.
> > 
> > Since 2.6.22 we have a priority ordered wakeup. For SCHED_OTHER
> > threads this takes the nice level into account. Threads with the same
> > priority are woken in FIFO order.
> 
> Maybe don't mention the effects of SCHED_OTHER, order by nice value is
> 'wrong'.

Indeed.
 
> Also, this code seems to use plist, which means it won't do the right
> thing for SCHED_DEADLINE either.
> 
> Do we want to go fix that?

I think so.

Thanks,

	tglx

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread

* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-07-28 20:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
  2015-07-28 21:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
@ 2015-07-29  2:09     ` Davidlohr Bueso
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Davidlohr Bueso @ 2015-07-29  2:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Zijlstra
  Cc: Thomas Gleixner, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages),
	Darren Hart, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar,
	Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt,
	Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet,
	bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker,
	Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

On Tue, 2015-07-28 at 22:45 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Also, this code seems to use plist, which means it won't do the right
> thing for SCHED_DEADLINE either.

Ick, I don't look forward to seeing nice futex plists converted into
rbtrees. As opposed to, eg. rtmutexes, there are a few caveats:

- Dealing with the top_waiter in rtmutexes is always easy, but in
futexes we need to deal with keys, so caching the leftmost won't work as
nicely.

- This will bloat things like futex_wake, where O(logN) is not suited
for FIFO iteration. And iterating linked lists is, in essence, all that
we really do when calling futex(2).

I have to wonder about the extra overhead added by these points.  I do
understand the dl concern, nonetheless.


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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-07-28 20:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
  2015-07-28 20:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2015-07-29  4:11   ` Darren Hart
  2015-07-29  4:21     ` Darren Hart
  2015-08-08  6:53   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Darren Hart @ 2015-07-29  4:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner
  Cc: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages),
	Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek,
	linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt,
	Peter Zijlstra, Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard,
	Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner,
	Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell,
	Heinrich Schuchardt

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:23:51PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:

...

> >        FUTEX_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.0)
> > .\" FIXME(Torvald) Is there some indication that FUTEX_REQUEUE is broken
> > .\"     in general, or is this comment implicitly speaking about the
> > .\"     condvar (?) use case? If the latter we might want to weaken the
> > .\"     advice below a little.
> > .\" [Anyone else have input on this?]
> 
> The condvar use case exposes the flaw nicely, but that's pretty much
> true for everything which wants a sane requeue operation.

In an earlier discussion I argued this point (that FUTURE_REQUEUE is broken and
should not be used in new code) and someone argued strongly against... stating
that there were legitimate uses for it. Of course I'm struggling to find the
thread and the reference at the moment - immensely useful, I know.

I'll continue trying to find it and see if it can be useful here. I believe
Torvald was on the thread as well.

> 
> >               Avoid using this operation.  It is broken for its intended
> >               purpose.  Use FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE instead.
> > 
> >               This    operation    performs    the    same    task    as
> >               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE, except that no check is made using  the
> >               value in val3.  (The argument val3 is ignored.)
> > 

-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-07-29  4:11   ` Darren Hart
@ 2015-07-29  4:21     ` Darren Hart
  2015-07-29 12:00       ` Thomas Gleixner
  2015-07-30  8:19       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Darren Hart @ 2015-07-29  4:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner
  Cc: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages),
	Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek,
	linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt,
	Peter Zijlstra, Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard,
	Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner,
	Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell,
	Heinrich Schuchardt

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 09:11:41PM -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:23:51PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > >        FUTEX_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.0)
> > > .\" FIXME(Torvald) Is there some indication that FUTEX_REQUEUE is broken
> > > .\"     in general, or is this comment implicitly speaking about the
> > > .\"     condvar (?) use case? If the latter we might want to weaken the
> > > .\"     advice below a little.
> > > .\" [Anyone else have input on this?]
> > 
> > The condvar use case exposes the flaw nicely, but that's pretty much
> > true for everything which wants a sane requeue operation.
> 
> In an earlier discussion I argued this point (that FUTURE_REQUEUE is broken and
> should not be used in new code) and someone argued strongly against... stating
> that there were legitimate uses for it. Of course I'm struggling to find the
> thread and the reference at the moment - immensely useful, I know.
> 
> I'll continue trying to find it and see if it can be useful here. I believe
> Torvald was on the thread as well.
> 

Found it on libc-alpha, here it is for reference:

	From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
	Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 22:43:17 -0400
	To: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
	Cc: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>, Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
	Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>, GLIBC Devel <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
	Subject: Re: Add futex wrapper to glibc?

	On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 06:59:15PM -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
	> > We are IMO at the stage where futex is stable, few things are
	> > changing, and with documentation in place, I would consider adding a
	> > futex wrapper.
	> 
	> Yes, at least for the defined OP codes. New OPs may be added of
	> course, but that isn't a concern for supporting what exists today, and
	> doesn't break compatibility.
	> 
	> I wonder though... can we not wrap FUTEX_REQUEUE? It's fundamentally
	> broken.  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE should *always* be used instead. The glibc
	> wrapper is one way to encourage developers to do the right thing
	> (don't expose the bad op in the header).

	You're mistaken here. There are plenty of valid ways to use
	FUTEX_REQUEUE - for example if the calling thread is requeuing the
	target(s) to a lock that the calling thread owns. Just because it
	doesn't meet the needs of the way glibc was using it internally
	doesn't mean it's useless for other applications.

	In any case, I don't think there's a proposal to intercept/modify the
	commands to futex, just to pass them through (and possibly do a
	cancellable syscall for some of them).

	Rich


> > 
> > >               Avoid using this operation.  It is broken for its intended
> > >               purpose.  Use FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE instead.
> > > 
> > >               This    operation    performs    the    same    task    as
> > >               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE, except that no check is made using  the
> > >               value in val3.  (The argument val3 is ignored.)
> > > 
> 
> -- 
> Darren Hart
> Intel Open Source Technology Center

-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-07-29  4:21     ` Darren Hart
@ 2015-07-29 12:00       ` Thomas Gleixner
  2015-07-30  8:19       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2015-07-29 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Darren Hart
  Cc: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages),
	Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek,
	linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt,
	Peter Zijlstra, Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard,
	Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner,
	Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell,
	Heinrich Schuchardt

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Darren Hart wrote:
> Found it on libc-alpha, here it is for reference:
> 
> 	From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
> 	Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 22:43:17 -0400
> 	To: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
> 	Cc: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>, Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
> 	Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>, GLIBC Devel <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
> 	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
> 	Subject: Re: Add futex wrapper to glibc?
> 
> 	On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 06:59:15PM -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
> 	> > We are IMO at the stage where futex is stable, few things are
> 	> > changing, and with documentation in place, I would consider adding a
> 	> > futex wrapper.
> 	> 
> 	> Yes, at least for the defined OP codes. New OPs may be added of
> 	> course, but that isn't a concern for supporting what exists today, and
> 	> doesn't break compatibility.
> 	> 
> 	> I wonder though... can we not wrap FUTEX_REQUEUE? It's fundamentally
> 	> broken.  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE should *always* be used instead. The glibc
> 	> wrapper is one way to encourage developers to do the right thing
> 	> (don't expose the bad op in the header).
> 
> 	You're mistaken here. There are plenty of valid ways to use
> 	FUTEX_REQUEUE - for example if the calling thread is requeuing the
> 	target(s) to a lock that the calling thread owns. Just because it
> 	doesn't meet the needs of the way glibc was using it internally
> 	doesn't mean it's useless for other applications.
> 
> 	In any case, I don't think there's a proposal to intercept/modify the
> 	commands to futex, just to pass them through (and possibly do a
> 	cancellable syscall for some of them).

Fair enough. Did not think about the requeue to futex held by the
caller case. In that case FUTEX_REQUEUE works as advertised.

Thanks,

	tglx

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-07-29  4:21     ` Darren Hart
  2015-07-29 12:00       ` Thomas Gleixner
@ 2015-07-30  8:19       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2015-07-30  8:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Darren Hart, Thomas Gleixner
  Cc: mtk.manpages, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar,
	Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann,
	Steven Rostedt, Peter Zijlstra, Linux API, Roland McGrath,
	Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka,
	Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert,
	Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

On 07/29/2015 06:21 AM, Darren Hart wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 09:11:41PM -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:23:51PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>>        FUTEX_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.0)
>>>> .\" FIXME(Torvald) Is there some indication that FUTEX_REQUEUE is broken
>>>> .\"     in general, or is this comment implicitly speaking about the
>>>> .\"     condvar (?) use case? If the latter we might want to weaken the
>>>> .\"     advice below a little.
>>>> .\" [Anyone else have input on this?]
>>>
>>> The condvar use case exposes the flaw nicely, but that's pretty much
>>> true for everything which wants a sane requeue operation.
>>
>> In an earlier discussion I argued this point (that FUTURE_REQUEUE is broken and
>> should not be used in new code) and someone argued strongly against... stating
>> that there were legitimate uses for it. Of course I'm struggling to find the
>> thread and the reference at the moment - immensely useful, I know.
>>
>> I'll continue trying to find it and see if it can be useful here. I believe
>> Torvald was on the thread as well.
>>
> 
> Found it on libc-alpha, here it is for reference:
> 
> 	From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
> 	Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 22:43:17 -0400
> 	To: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
> 	Cc: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>, Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
> 	Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>, GLIBC Devel <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
> 	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
> 	Subject: Re: Add futex wrapper to glibc?
> 
> 	On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 06:59:15PM -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
> 	> > We are IMO at the stage where futex is stable, few things are
> 	> > changing, and with documentation in place, I would consider adding a
> 	> > futex wrapper.
> 	> 
> 	> Yes, at least for the defined OP codes. New OPs may be added of
> 	> course, but that isn't a concern for supporting what exists today, and
> 	> doesn't break compatibility.
> 	> 
> 	> I wonder though... can we not wrap FUTEX_REQUEUE? It's fundamentally
> 	> broken.  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE should *always* be used instead. The glibc
> 	> wrapper is one way to encourage developers to do the right thing
> 	> (don't expose the bad op in the header).
> 
> 	You're mistaken here. There are plenty of valid ways to use
> 	FUTEX_REQUEUE - for example if the calling thread is requeuing the
> 	target(s) to a lock that the calling thread owns. Just because it
> 	doesn't meet the needs of the way glibc was using it internally
> 	doesn't mean it's useless for other applications.
> 
> 	In any case, I don't think there's a proposal to intercept/modify the
> 	commands to futex, just to pass them through (and possibly do a
> 	cancellable syscall for some of them).
> 
> 	Rich
> 
> 
>>>
>>>>               Avoid using this operation.  It is broken for its intended
>>>>               purpose.  Use FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE instead.
>>>>
>>>>               This    operation    performs    the    same    task    as
>>>>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE, except that no check is made using  the
>>>>               value in val3.  (The argument val3 is ignored.)

Thanks, Darren, that's really helpful! I've removed the statement in the man
page that FUTEX_REQUEUE is broken.

By the way, Darren. There were a couple of FIXMEs in the page where you are
explicitly mentioned by name. Could you take a look at those? Specifically,
the large block of text starting at:

    >> .\" FIXME XXX The following is my attempt at a definition of PI futexes,
    >> .\"       based on mail discussions with Darren Hart. Does it seem okay?

   (tglx looked at this and blessed it, but I'd like you also to check.)

Cheers,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-07-27 12:07 Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2015-07-28 20:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
@ 2015-08-05 22:21 ` Darren Hart
  2015-08-08  6:57   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2015-08-19 22:40   ` Thomas Gleixner
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Darren Hart @ 2015-08-05 22:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  Cc: Thomas Gleixner, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell,
	Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso,
	Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt, Peter Zijlstra, Linux API,
	Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet,
	bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker,
	Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Hello all,
> 

Michael, thank you for your diligence in following up and collecting
reviews. I've attempted to respond to what I was specifically called out
in or where I had something specific to add in addition to other
replies.

After this, will you send another version (numbered for reference
maybe?) with any remaining FIXMEs that haven't yet been addressed
according to your accounting?

...

>    Priority-inheritance futexes
>        Linux supports priority-inheritance (PI) futexes in order to han‐
>        dle priority-inversion problems that can be encountered with nor‐
>        mal  futex  locks.  Priority inversion is the problem that occurs
>        when a high-priority task is blocked waiting to  acquire  a  lock
>        held  by a low-priority task, while tasks at an intermediate pri‐
>        ority continuously preempt the low-priority task  from  the  CPU.
>        Consequently,  the  low-priority  task  makes  no progress toward
>        releasing the lock, and the high-priority task remains blocked.
> 
>        Priority inheritance is a mechanism for dealing with  the  prior‐
>        ity-inversion problem.  With this mechanism, when a high-priority
>        task becomes blocked by a lock held by a low-priority  task,  the
>        latter's priority is temporarily raised to that of the former, so
>        that it is not preempted by any intermediate level tasks, and can
>        thus  make  progress toward releasing the lock.  To be effective,
>        priority inheritance must be transitive, meaning that if a  high-
>        priority task blocks on a lock held by a lower-priority task that
>        is itself blocked by lock held by  another  intermediate-priority
>        task  (and  so  on, for chains of arbitrary length), then both of
>        those task (or more generally, all of the tasks in a lock  chain)
>        have  their priorities raised to be the same as the high-priority
>        task.
> 
> .\" FIXME XXX The following is my attempt at a definition of PI futexes,
> .\"       based on mail discussions with Darren Hart. Does it seem okay?
> 
>        From a user-space perspective, what makes a futex PI-aware  is  a
>        policy  agreement  between  user  space  and the kernel about the
>        value of the futex word (described in a moment), coupled with the
>        use  of  the  PI futex operations described below (in particular,
>        FUTEX_LOCK_PI, FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI, and FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI).

Yes. Was this intended to be a complete opcode list? PI operations must
use paired operations.

(FUTEX_LOCK_PI | FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI) : FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI
FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI : FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI

And their PRIVATE counterparts of course (which is assumed as it is a
flag to the opcode).

> 
> .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> .\"       The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
> .\"       (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
> .\"       significantly. Please check it.
> 
>        The PI futex operations described below  differ  from  the  other
>        futex  operations  in  that  they impose policy on the use of the
>        value of the futex word:
> 
>        *  If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value  shall  be
>           0.
> 
>        *  If  the  lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
>           thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
> 
>        *  If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for  the
>           lock,  then  the  FUTEX_WAITERS  bit shall be set in the futex
>           word's value; in other words, this value is:
> 
>               FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
> 
> 
>        Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
>        which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.

The second clause is inappropriate. I don't know if that was yours or
mine, but non-PI futexes do not have a kernel defined value policy, so
==FUTEX_WAITERS cannot be a "permissible state" as any value is
permissible for non-PI futexes, and none have a kernel defined state.

Perhaps include a Note under the third bullet as:

	  Note: It is invalid for a PI futex word to have no owner and
	        FUTEX_WAITERS set.

> 
>        With this policy in place, a user-space application can acquire a
>        not-acquired lock or release a lock that no other threads try  to

"that no other threads try to acquire" seems out of place. I think
"atomic instructions" is sufficient to express how contention is
handled.

>        acquire using atomic instructions executed in user space (e.g., a
>        compare-and-swap operation such as cmpxchg on the  x86  architec‐
>        ture).   Acquiring  a  lock simply consists of using compare-and-
>        swap to atomically set the futex word's value to the caller's TID
>        if  its  previous  value  was 0.  Releasing a lock requires using
>        compare-and-swap to set the futex word's value to 0 if the previ‐
>        ous value was the expected TID.
> 
>        If a futex is already acquired (i.e., has a nonzero value), wait‐
>        ers must employ the FUTEX_LOCK_PI operation to acquire the  lock.
>        If other threads are waiting for the lock, then the FUTEX_WAITERS
>        bit is set in the futex value; in this case, the lock owner  must
>        employ the FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI operation to release the lock.
> 
>        In  the  cases  where  callers  are forced into the kernel (i.e.,
>        required to perform a futex() call), they then deal directly with
>        a so-called RT-mutex, a kernel locking mechanism which implements
>        the required priority-inheritance semantics.  After the  RT-mutex
>        is  acquired,  the futex value is updated accordingly, before the
>        calling thread returns to user space.

This last paragraph relies on kernel implementation rather than
behavior. If the RT-mutex is renamed or the mechanism is implemented
differently in futexes, this section will require updating. Is that
appropriate for a user-space man page?

> .\" FIXME ===== End of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> 
> 
> 
> .\" FIXME We need some explanation in the following paragraph of *why*
> .\"       it is important to note that "the kernel will update the
> .\"       futex word's value prior
>        It is important to note to returning to user space" . Can someone
>        explain?   that  the  kernel  will  update the futex word's value
>        prior to returning to user space.  Unlike the other futex  opera‐
>        tions  described  above, the PI futex operations are designed for
>        the implementation of very specific IPC mechanisms.

If the kernel didn't perform the update prior to returning to userspace,
we could end up in an invalid state. Such as having an owner, but the
value being 0. Or having waiters, but not having FUTEX_WAITERS set.

> .\"
> .\" FIXME XXX In discussing errors for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, Darren Hart
> .\"       made the observation that "EINVAL is returned if the non-pi 
> .\"       to pi or op pairing semantics are violated."
> .\"       Probably there needs to be a general statement about this
> .\"       requirement, probably located at about this point in the page.
> .\"       Darren (or someone else), care to take a shot at this?

We can probably borrow from either the futex.c comments or the
futex-requeue-pi.txt in Documentation. Also, it is important to note
that the PI requeue operations require two distinct uadders (although
that is implied by requiring "non-pi to pi" as a futex cannot be both.

Or... perhaps something like:

	Due to the kernel imposed futex word value policy, PI futex
	operations have additional usage requirements:
	
	FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI must be paired with FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI
	and be performed from a non-pi futex to a distinct pi futex.
	Failing to do so will return EINVAL. Additionally,
	FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI requires that nr_wake=1. [We state in the
	docs that nr_requeue should be INT_MAX for broadcast and 0 for
	signal... but that may be overly specific to libc for this
	manual]
	
	Similarly, FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI must only be called on a futex owned
	by the calling thread as defined by the value policy, otherwise
	EPERM is returned.

Were you looking for something like that - or were you looking for
justification for these requirements?

...

>        FUTEX_LOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
> .\" FIXME I did some significant rewording of tglx's text to create
> .\"       the text below.
> .\"       Please check the following paragraph, in case I injected
> .\"       errors.
>               This  operation  is used after after an attempt to acquire
>               the lock  via  an  atomic  user-space  instruction  failed
>               because  the  futex word has a nonzero value—specifically,
>               because it contained the  namespace-specific  TID  of  the
>               lock owner.

Acked.

...

>        FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
> .\" FIXME I think it would be helpful here to say a few more words about
> .\"       the difference(s) between FUTEX_LOCK_PI and FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI.
> .\"       Can someone propose something?
>               This operation tries to acquire the futex  at  uaddr.   It
>               deals  with  the situation where the TID value at uaddr is
>               0, but the FUTEX_WAITERS bit is set.   User  space  cannot
>               handle this condition in a race-free manner
> .\" FIXME How does the situation in the previous sentence come about?
> .\"       Probably it would be helpful to say something about that in
> .\"       the man page.
> .\" FIXME And *how* does FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI deal with this situation?

I guess I wouldn't expect to see this detail in the manual. That state
should never exist in userspace as far as I understand it, which makes
it a kernel implementation detail and not relevant to a usage manual.

...

> 
>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
>               This operation is a PI-aware variant of FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE.
>               It    requeues    waiters    that    are    blocked    via
>               FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI on uaddr from a non-PI source  futex
>               (uaddr) to a PI target futex (uaddr2).
> 
>               As with FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE, this operation wakes up a maxi‐
>               mum of val waiters that are waiting on the futex at uaddr.
>               However, for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, val is required to be 1
>               (since the main point is to avoid a thundering herd).  The
>               remaining  waiters  are removed from the wait queue of the
>               source futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue  of  the
>               target futex at uaddr2.
> 
>               The val2 and val3 arguments serve the same purposes as for
>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE.
> .\" FIXME The page at http://locklessinc.com/articles/futex_cheat_sheet/
> .\"       notes that "priority-inheritance Futex to priority-inheritance
> .\"       Futex requeues are currently unsupported". Do we need to say
> .\"       something in the man page about that?
> 

I noted this above in response to your request for detail about the
*REQUEUE_PI semantics and error codes. Was that sufficient?

> 
> 
>        FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
> 
> .\" FIXME I find the next sentence (from tglx) pretty hard to grok.
> .\"       Could someone explain it a bit more?
> 
>               Wait operation to wait on a  non-PI  futex  at  uaddr  and
>               potentially  be  requeued  onto a PI futex at uaddr2.  The
>               wait operation on uaddr is the same  as  FUTEX_WAIT.   

The point tglx is making here is that you must know ahead of time and
tell the kernel that you intend to use this futex in a REQUEUE_PI
operation, and not a regular REQUEUE. This is determined by the both the
op codes as well as the required arguments, which I also documented
above. Is more detail required?

> 
> .\" FIXME I'm not quite clear on the meaning of the following sentence.
> .\"       Is this trying to say that while blocked in a
> .\"       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI, it could happen that another
> .\"       task does a FUTEX_WAKE on uaddr that simply causes
> .\"       a normal wake, with the result that the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> .\"       does not complete? What happens then to the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> .\"       opertion? Does it remain blocked, or does it unblock
> .\"       In which case, what does user space see?
> 
>               The
>               waiter   can  be  removed  from  the  wait  on  uaddr  via
>               FUTEX_WAKE without requeueing on uaddr2.

Userspace should see the task wake and continue executing. This would
effectively be a cancelation operation - which I didn't think was
supported. Thomas?

...

> 
> .\" FIXME XXX The following is a reworded version of Darren Hart's text.
> .\"       Please check that I did not introduce any errors.
>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) An attempt was made  to  requeue  a
>               waiter  to a futex other than that specified by the match‐
>               ing FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI call for that waiter.

Acked.

Thanks Michael!

-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread

* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-07-28 20:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
  2015-07-28 20:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
  2015-07-29  4:11   ` Darren Hart
@ 2015-08-08  6:53   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2015-08-19 23:17     ` Thomas Gleixner
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2015-08-08  6:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner
  Cc: mtk.manpages, Darren Hart, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell,
	Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso,
	Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt, Peter Zijlstra, Linux API,
	Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet,
	bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker,
	Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

Hi Thomas,

Thank you for the comments below. This helps hugely:
more than 30 of my FIXMEs have now gone away!

I have a few open questions, which you can find
by searching for the string "???". If you would have
a chance to look at those, I'd appreciate it.

On 07/28/2015 10:23 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>        FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME (since Linux 2.6.28)
>>               This   option   bit   can   be   employed  only  with  the
>>               FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET and FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI operations.
>>
>>               If this option is set, the kernel  treats  timeout  as  an
>>               absolute time based on CLOCK_REALTIME.
>>
>> .\" FIXME XXX I added CLOCK_MONOTONIC below. Okay?
>>               If  this  option  is not set, the kernel treats timeout as
>>               relative time, measured against the CLOCK_MONOTONIC clock.
> 
> That's correct.

Thanks.

>>        The operation specified in futex_op is one of the following:
>>
>>        FUTEX_WAIT (since Linux 2.6.0)
>>               This operation tests that the  value  at  the  futex  word
>>               pointed  to  by  the  address  uaddr  still  contains  the
>>               expected value  val,  and  if  so,  then  sleeps  awaiting
>>               FUTEX_WAKE  on  the  futex word.  The load of the value of
>>               the futex word is an atomic  memory  access  (i.e.,  using
>>               atomic  machine  instructions  of the respective architec‐
>>               ture).  This load, the comparison with the expected value,
>>               and starting to sleep are performed atomically and totally
>>               ordered with respect to other futex operations on the same
>>               futex  word.  If the thread starts to sleep, it is consid‐
>>               ered a waiter on this futex word.  If the futex value does
>>               not  match  val,  then the call fails immediately with the
>>               error EAGAIN.
>>
>>               The purpose of the comparison with the expected  value  is
>>               to  prevent  lost  wake-ups: If another thread changed the
>>               value of the futex word after the calling  thread  decided
>>               to block based on the prior value, and if the other thread
>>               executed a FUTEX_WAKE operation (or similar wake-up) after
>>               the  value  change  and  before this FUTEX_WAIT operation,
>>               then the latter will observe the value change and will not
>>               start to sleep.
>>
>>               If  the timeout argument is non-NULL, its contents specify
>>               a relative timeout for the wait, measured according to the
>> .\" FIXME XXX I added CLOCK_MONOTONIC below. Okay?
> 
> Yes.

Thanks.

> 
>>               CLOCK_MONOTONIC  clock.  (This interval will be rounded up
>>               to the system clock  granularity,  and  kernel  scheduling
>>               delays  mean  that  the blocking interval may overrun by a
>>               small amount.)
> 
> 		The given wait time will be rounded up to the system
> 		clock granularity and is guaranteed not to expire
> 		early.
> 
> There are a gazillion reasons why it can expire late, but the
> guarantee is that it never expires prematurely.
> 
>> 		  If timeout is NULL, the call blocks indef‐
>>               initely.
> 
> Right.

Thanks. Reworded as you suggest. 

>>               The arguments uaddr2 and val3 are ignored.
>>
>>
>>        FUTEX_WAKE (since Linux 2.6.0)
>>               This  operation  wakes at most val of the waiters that are
>>               waiting (e.g., inside FUTEX_WAIT) on the futex word at the
>>               address  uaddr.  Most commonly, val is specified as either
>>               1 (wake up a single waiter) or INT_MAX (wake up all  wait‐
>>               ers).   No  guarantee  is provided about which waiters are
>>               awoken (e.g., a waiter with a higher  scheduling  priority
>>               is  not  guaranteed to be awoken in preference to a waiter
>>               with a lower priority).
> 
> That's only correct up to Linux 2.6.21.
> 
> Since 2.6.22 we have a priority ordered wakeup. For SCHED_OTHER
> threads this takes the nice level into account. Threads with the same
> priority are woken in FIFO order.

So, this got picked up in a little subthread by Peter Zijsltra. I'll
reply there.

>>               The arguments timeout, uaddr2, and val3 are ignored.
>  
>>
>>        FUTEX_FD (from Linux 2.6.0 up to and including Linux 2.6.25)
>>               This operation creates a file descriptor that  is  associ‐
>>               ated  with  the futex at uaddr.  The caller must close the
>>               returned file descriptor after use.  When another  process
>>               or  thread  performs  a  FUTEX_WAKE on the futex word, the
>>               file  descriptor  indicates   as   being   readable   with
>>               select(2), poll(2), and epoll(7)
>>
>>               The  file  descriptor  can  be used to obtain asynchronous
>>               notifications:  if  val  is  nonzero,  then  when  another
>>               process  or  thread executes a FUTEX_WAKE, the caller will
>>               receive the signal number that was passed in val.
>>
>>               The arguments timeout, uaddr2 and val3 are ignored.
>>
>> .\" FIXME(Torvald) We never define "upped".  Maybe just remove the
>> .\"      following sentence?
>>               To prevent race conditions, the caller should test if  the
>>               futex has been upped after FUTEX_FD returns.
> 
> Yes, just remove it.

Done.

>>               Because  it was inherently racy, FUTEX_FD has been removed
>>               from Linux 2.6.26 onward.
>>
>>        FUTEX_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.0)
>> .\" FIXME(Torvald) Is there some indication that FUTEX_REQUEUE is broken
>> .\"     in general, or is this comment implicitly speaking about the
>> .\"     condvar (?) use case? If the latter we might want to weaken the
>> .\"     advice below a little.
>> .\" [Anyone else have input on this?]
> 
> The condvar use case exposes the flaw nicely, but that's pretty much
> true for everything which wants a sane requeue operation.

Yep. I dealt with this in an earlier response to mail from Darren (where 
you also replied). I've removed the warning that FUTEX_REQUEUE is broken.

>>               Avoid using this operation.  It is broken for its intended
>>               purpose.  Use FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE instead.
>>
>>               This    operation    performs    the    same    task    as
>>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE, except that no check is made using  the
>>               value in val3.  (The argument val3 is ignored.)
>>
>>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.7)
>>               This  operation  first  checks  whether the location uaddr
>>               still contains the value  val3.   If  not,  the  operation
>>               fails  with  the  error  EAGAIN.  Otherwise, the operation
>>               wakes up a maximum of val waiters that are waiting on  the
>>               futex  at uaddr.  If there are more than val waiters, then
>>               the remaining waiters are removed from the wait  queue  of
>>               the  source  futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue of
>>               the target futex at uaddr2.  The val2  argument  specifies
>>               an  upper limit on the number of waiters that are requeued
>>               to the futex at uaddr2.
>>
>> .\" FIXME(Torvald) Is the following correct?  Or is just the decision
>> .\" which threads to wake or requeue part of the atomic operation?
>>
>>               The load from uaddr is  an  atomic  memory  access  (i.e.,
>>               using atomic machine instructions of the respective archi‐
>>               tecture).  This load, the comparison with  val3,  and  the
>>               requeueing  of  any  waiters  are performed atomically and
>>               totally ordered with respect to other  operations  on  the
>>               same futex word.
> 
> It's atomic as the other atomic operations on the futex word. It's
> always performed with the proper lock(s) held in the kernel. That
> means any concurrent operation will serialize on that lock(s). User
> space has to make sure, that depending on the observed value no
> concurrent operations happen, but that's something the kernel cannot
> control.

???
Sorry, I'm not clear here. Is the current text correct then? Or is some
change needed.

>>               This  operation was added as a replacement for the earlier
>>               FUTEX_REQUEUE.  The difference is that the  check  of  the
>>               value  at uaddr can be used to ensure that requeueing hap‐
>>               pens only under certain conditions.  Both  operations  can
>>               be   used   to  avoid  a  "thundering  herd"  effect  when
>>               FUTEX_WAKE is used and all of the waiters that  are  woken
>>               need to acquire another futex.
>>
>> .\" FIXME Please review the following new paragraph to see if it is
>> .\"       accurate.
>>               Typical  values to specify for val are 0 or or 1.  (Speci‐
>>               fying INT_MAX is not useful, because  it  would  make  the
>>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE  operation  equivalent  to  FUTEX_WAKE.)
>>               The limit value specified via val2 is typically  either  1
>>               or  INT_MAX.  (Specifying the argument as 0 is not useful,
>>               because it  would  make  the  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE  operation
>>               equivalent to FUTEX_WAIT.)
> 
> It's correct.

Thanks.

>> .\" FIXME Here, it would be helpful to have an example of how
>> .\"       FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE might be used, at the same time illustrating
>> .\"       why FUTEX_WAKE is unsuitable for the same use case.
> 
> Waiters:
> 
>   lock(A)
>   while (!check_value(V)) {
>   	unlock(A);
> 	block_on(B);
> 	lock(A);
>   };
>   unlock(A);
> 
> Note: B is a wait queue implemented with futexes.
>  
> If the waker would use FUTEX_WAKE and wake all waiters waiting on B
> then those would all try to acquire lock A. That's called thundering
> herd and pointless because all except one would immediately block on
> lock A again.
> 
> Requeueing prevents that because it only wakes one waiter and moves
> the other waiters to lock A. When that waiter unlocks A then the next
> waiter can proceed ...

Thanks, I used a lot of that text.

[...]

>>        FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET (since Linux 2.6.25)
>>               This operation is the same as FUTEX_WAKE except  that  the
>>               val3  argument  is  used to provide a 32-bit bitset to the
>>               kernel.  This bitset  is  used  to  select  which  waiters
>>               should  be  woken up.  The selection is done by a bit-wise
>>               AND of the "wake" bitset (i.e., the value in val3) and the
>>               bitset which is stored in the kernel-internal state of the
>>               waiter   (the   "wait"   bitset   that   is   set    using
>>               FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET).   All  of  the  waiters  for which the
>>               result of the AND is nonzero are woken up;  the  remaining
>>               waiters are left sleeping.
>>
>> .\" FIXME XXX Is this next paragraph that I added okay?
>>               The  effect  of FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET and FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET is
>>               to allow selective wake-ups among  multiple  waiters  that
>>               are  blocked on the same futex.  Note, however, that using
>>               this bitset multiplexing feature on a futex is less  effi‐
>>               cient  than simply using multiple futexes, because employ‐
> 
> 		s/is less efficient/can be less efficient/
> 
> It really depends on the usecase.

Thanks. Amended as you suggest.

>>               ing bitset multiplexing requires the kernel to  check  all
>>               waiters  on  a  futex, including those that are not inter‐
>>               ested in being woken up (i.e., they do not have the  rele‐
>>               vant bit set in their "wait" bitset).
>>
>>               The uaddr2 and timeout arguments are ignored.
>>
>>               The  FUTEX_WAIT  and  FUTEX_WAKE  operations correspond to
>>               FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET and FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET  operations  where
>>               the bitsets are all ones.
>>
>>    Priority-inheritance futexes
>>        Linux supports priority-inheritance (PI) futexes in order to han‐
>>        dle priority-inversion problems that can be encountered with nor‐
>>        mal  futex  locks.  Priority inversion is the problem that occurs
>>        when a high-priority task is blocked waiting to  acquire  a  lock
>>        held  by a low-priority task, while tasks at an intermediate pri‐
>>        ority continuously preempt the low-priority task  from  the  CPU.
>>        Consequently,  the  low-priority  task  makes  no progress toward
>>        releasing the lock, and the high-priority task remains blocked.
>>
>>        Priority inheritance is a mechanism for dealing with  the  prior‐
>>        ity-inversion problem.  With this mechanism, when a high-priority
>>        task becomes blocked by a lock held by a low-priority  task,  the
>>        latter's priority is temporarily raised to that of the former, so
>>        that it is not preempted by any intermediate level tasks, and can
>>        thus  make  progress toward releasing the lock.  To be effective,
>>        priority inheritance must be transitive, meaning that if a  high-
>>        priority task blocks on a lock held by a lower-priority task that
>>        is itself blocked by lock held by  another  intermediate-priority
>>        task  (and  so  on, for chains of arbitrary length), then both of
>>        those task (or more generally, all of the tasks in a lock  chain)
>>        have  their priorities raised to be the same as the high-priority
>>        task.
>>
>> .\" FIXME XXX The following is my attempt at a definition of PI futexes,
>> .\"       based on mail discussions with Darren Hart. Does it seem okay?
>>
>>        From a user-space perspective, what makes a futex PI-aware  is  a
>>        policy  agreement  between  user  space  and the kernel about the
>>        value of the futex word (described in a moment), coupled with the
>>        use  of  the  PI futex operations described below (in particular,
>>        FUTEX_LOCK_PI, FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI, and FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI).
>>
>> .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
>> .\"       The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
>> .\"       (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
>> .\"       significantly. Please check it.
>>
>>        The PI futex operations described below  differ  from  the  other
>>        futex  operations  in  that  they impose policy on the use of the
>>        value of the futex word:
>>
>>        *  If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value  shall  be
>>           0.
>>
>>        *  If  the  lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
>>           thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
>>
>>        *  If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for  the
>>           lock,  then  the  FUTEX_WAITERS  bit shall be set in the futex
>>           word's value; in other words, this value is:
>>
>>               FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
>>
>>
>>        Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
>>        which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.
>>
>>        With this policy in place, a user-space application can acquire a
>>        not-acquired lock or release a lock that no other threads try  to
>>        acquire using atomic instructions executed in user space (e.g., a
>>        compare-and-swap operation such as cmpxchg on the  x86  architec‐
>>        ture).   Acquiring  a  lock simply consists of using compare-and-
>>        swap to atomically set the futex word's value to the caller's TID
>>        if  its  previous  value  was 0.  Releasing a lock requires using
>>        compare-and-swap to set the futex word's value to 0 if the previ‐
>>        ous value was the expected TID.
>>
>>        If a futex is already acquired (i.e., has a nonzero value), wait‐
>>        ers must employ the FUTEX_LOCK_PI operation to acquire the  lock.
>>        If other threads are waiting for the lock, then the FUTEX_WAITERS
>>        bit is set in the futex value; in this case, the lock owner  must
>>        employ the FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI operation to release the lock.
>>
>>        In  the  cases  where  callers  are forced into the kernel (i.e.,
>>        required to perform a futex() call), they then deal directly with
>>        a so-called RT-mutex, a kernel locking mechanism which implements
>>        the required priority-inheritance semantics.  After the  RT-mutex
>>        is  acquired,  the futex value is updated accordingly, before the
>>        calling thread returns to user space.
>> .\" FIXME ===== End of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> 
> That's correct.

Thanks.

>> .\" FIXME We need some explanation in the following paragraph of *why*
>> .\"       it is important to note that "the kernel will update the
>> .\"       futex word's value prior
>>        It is important to note to returning to user space" . Can someone
>>        explain?   that  the  kernel  will  update the futex word's value
>>        prior to returning to user space.  Unlike the other futex  opera‐
>>        tions  described  above, the PI futex operations are designed for
>>        the implementation of very specific IPC mechanisms.
> 
> If there are multiple waiters on a pi futex then a wake pi operation
> will wake the first waiter and hand over the lock to this waiter. This
> includes handing over the rtmutex which represents the futex in the
> kernel. The strict requirement is that the futex owner and the rtmutex
> owner must be the same, except for the update period which is
> serialized by the futex internal locking. That means the kernel must
> update the user space value prior to returning to user space.

Okay -- thanks. I've noted these details, but need to consider more about
what changes (if any) are needed to the page.

>> .\" FIXME XXX In discussing errors for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, Darren Hart
>> .\"       made the observation that "EINVAL is returned if the non-pi 
>> .\"       to pi or op pairing semantics are violated."
>> .\"       Probably there needs to be a general statement about this
>> .\"       requirement, probably located at about this point in the page.
>> .\"       Darren (or someone else), care to take a shot at this?
> 
> Well, that's hard to describe because the kernel only has a limited
> way of detecting such mismatches. It only can detect it when there are
> non PI waiters on a futex and a PI function is called or vice versa.

Hmmm. Okay, I filed your comments away for reference, but
hopefully someone can help with some actual text.

>> .\" FIXME Somewhere on this page (I guess under the discussion of PI
>> .\"       futexes) we need a discussion of the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit.
>> .\"       Can someone propose a text?
> 
> If a futex has a rtmutex associated in the kernel, i.e. when there are
> blocked waiters, and the owner of the futex/rtmutex dies unexpectedly,
> then the kernel cleans up the rtmutex (as it holds a reference to the
> dying task) and hands it over to the next waiter. That requires that
> the user space value is updated accordingly. The kernel sets the
> FUTEX_OWNER_DIED in the user space value along with the TID of the new
> owner. User space is responsible for cleaning this up, though there
> are cases where the kernel does the cleanup.
>  
> The FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit can also be set on uncontended futexes, where
> the kernel has no state associated. This happens via the robust futex
> mechanism. In that case the futex value will be set to
> FUTEX_OWNER_DIED. The robust futex mechanism is also available for non
> PI futexes.

???
So, I added part of that text to the page, as follows:

       If  a futex has an associated RT-mutex in the kernel (i.e., there
       are blocked waiters) and the owner  of  the  futex/RT-mutex  dies
       unexpectedly, then the kernel cleans up the RT-mutex and hands it
       over to the next waiter.  This in turn requires  that  the  user-
       space  value  is  updated  accordingly.  To indicate that this is
       required, the kernel sets the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit in  the  futex
       word  along  with  the thread ID of the new owner.  User space is
       then responsible for cleaning this up  (though  there  are  cases
       where the kernel does the cleanup).

Okay?

I think the last sentence still requires a little work though. What does
user space need to do in terms of clean up?


>>        PI futexes are operated on by specifying  one  of  the  following
>>        values in futex_op:
>>
>>        FUTEX_LOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
>> .\" FIXME I did some significant rewording of tglx's text to create
>> .\"       the text below.
>> .\"       Please check the following paragraph, in case I injected
>> .\"       errors.
>>               This  operation  is used after after an attempt to acquire
>>               the lock  via  an  atomic  user-space  instruction  failed
>>               because  the  futex word has a nonzero value—specifically,
>>               because it contained the  namespace-specific  TID  of  the
>>               lock owner.
>> .\" FIXME In the preceding line, what does "namespace-specific" mean?
>> .\"       (I kept those words from tglx.)
>> .\"       That is, what kind of namespace are we talking about?
>> .\"       (I suppose we are talking PID namespaces here, but I want to
>> .\"       be sure.)
> 
> Yes.

Thanks.

>>               The  operation  checks  the value of the futex word at the
>>               address uaddr.  If the value is 0, then the  kernel  tries
>>               to atomically set the futex value to the caller's TID.  
>> .\" FIXME What would be the cause(s) of failure referred to
>> .\"       in the following sentence?
>>               If
>>               that fails, or the futex word's value is nonzero, the ker‐
> 
> 'If that fails' does not make sense. If the user space access fails we
> return -EFAULT and let user space deal with the mess.

Okay. , I removed "that fails, or"
> 
> The operation here is similar to the FUTEX_WAIT logic. When the user
> space atomic acquire does not succeed because the futex value was non
> zero, then the waiter goes into the kernel, takes the kernel internal
> lock and retries the acquisition under the lock. If the acquisition
> does not succeed either, then it sets the FUTEX_WAITERS bit, to signal
> the lock owner that it needs to go into the kernel. Here is the pseudo
> code:
> 
> 		lock(kernel_lock);
> 	retry:
> 		
> 		/*
> 		 * Owner might have unlocked in userspace before we
> 		 * were able to set the waiter bit.
> 		 */
> 		if (atomic_acquire(futex) == SUCCESS) {
> 		   unlock(kernel_lock());
> 		   return 0;
> 		}
> 
> 		/*
> 		 * Owner might have unlocked after the above atomic_acquire()
> 		 * attempt.
> 		 */
> 		if (atomic_set_waiters_bit(futex) != SUCCESS)
> 		   goto retry;
> 
> 		queue_waiter();
> 		unlock(kernel_lock);
> 		block();   

Thanks, I filed the above point away as a comment in the source.

>>               nel  atomically  sets the FUTEX_WAITERS bit, which signals
>>               the futex owner that it cannot unlock the  futex  in  user
>>               space  atomically  by setting the futex value to 0.  After
>>               that, the kernel tries to find the thread which is associ‐
>>               ated with the owner TID, creates or reuses kernel state on
>>               behalf of the owner and attaches the waiter  to  it.   
>> .\" FIXME Could I get a bit more detail on the previous lines?
>> .\"       What is "creates or reuses kernel state" about?
>> .\"       (I think this needs to be clearer in the page)
> 
> If this is the first waiter then there is no kernel state for this
> futex, so it is created. That means the rtmutex is locked and the
> futex owner established as the owner of the rtmutex. If there is a
> waiter, then the state is reused, i.e. the new waiter is enqueued into
> the rtmutex waiter list.

Thanks, I've reworked this passage somewhat, to read:

              The operation checks the value of the futex  word  at  the
              address  uaddr.   If the value is 0, then the kernel tries
              to atomically set the futex value to the caller's TID.  If
              the  futex  word's value is nonzero, the kernel atomically
              sets the FUTEX_WAITERS bit, which signals the futex  owner
              that  it  cannot unlock the futex in user space atomically
              by setting the futex value to 0.  After that, the kernel:

              1. Tries to find the thread which is associated  with  the
                 owner TID.

              2. Creates  or reuses kernel state on behalf of the owner.
                 (If this is the first waiter, there is no kernel  state
                 for  this  futex, so kernel state is created by locking
                 the RT-mutex and the futex owner is made the  owner  of
                 the  RT-mutex.  If there are existing waiters, then the
                 existing state is reused.)

              3. Attaches the waiter to it (i.e., the waiter is enqueued
                 on the RT-mutex waiter list).

>> .\" FIXME In the next line, what type of "priority" are we talking about?
>> .\"       Realtime priorities for SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR?
>> .\"       Or something else?
>>
>>               The
>>               enqueueing  of  the waiter is in descending priority order
>>               if more than one waiter exists.  
> 
> That also covers sched deadline.

???
Thanks. If the realm is restricted purely to SCHED_OTHER (SCHED_NORMAL)
processes, does the nice value come into play also?


>> .\" FIXME In the next sentence, what type of "priority" are we talking about?
>> .\"       Realtime priorities for SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR?
>> .\"       Or something else?
>> .\" FIXME What does "bandwidth" refer to in the next sentence?
>>
>>               The owner inherits either
>>               the priority or the bandwidth of the waiter.  
> 
> If the highest priority waiter is SCHED_DEADLINE, then the owner
> inherits cpu bandwidth from the waiter as there is no priority
> associated to SCHED_DEADLINE tasks.
> 
> If the highest priority waiter is SCHED_FIFO/RR, then the owner
> inherits the waiter priority.

Thanks!

>> .\" FIXME In the preceding sentence, what determines whether the
>> .\"       owner inherits the priority versus the bandwidth?
>>
>> .\" FIXME Could I get some help translating the next sentence into
>> .\"       something that user-space developers (and I) can understand?
>> .\"       In particular, what are "nested locks" in this context?
>>
>>               This inheri‐
>>               tance follows the lock chain in the case of nested locking
>>               and performs deadlock detection.
> 
> T1 blocks on lock A held by T2
> T2 blocks on lock B held by T3
> 
> So we have a lock chain A, B. The inheritance mechanism follows the
> lock chain and propagates the highest waiter priority up to the end of
> the chain.

Thanks.

By now, I have reworded this passage to read:

             If  more  than  one  waiter  exists, the enqueueing of the
              waiter is in descending priority order.  (For  information
              on   priority   ordering,   see   the  discussion  of  the
              SCHED_DEADLINE, SCHED_FIFO, and SCHED_RR scheduling  poli‐
              cies in sched(7).)  The owner inherits either the waiter's
              CPU bandwidth  (if  the  waiter  is  scheduled  under  the
              SCHED_DEADLINE  policy)  or  the waiter's priority (if the
              waiter is scheduled under the SCHED_RR or SCHED_FIFO  pol‐
              icy).  This inheritance follows the lock chain in the case
              of nested locking (i.e., task 1 blocks on lock A, held  by
              task 2, while task 2 blocks on lock B, held by task 3) and
              performs deadlock detection.

>> .\" FIXME tglx said "The timeout argument is handled as described in
>> .\"       FUTEX_WAIT." However, it appears to me that this is not right.
>> .\"       Is the following formulation correct?
>>               The  timeout  argument  provides  a  timeout  for the lock
>>               attempt.  It is interpreted as an absolute time,  measured
>>               against the CLOCK_REALTIME clock.  If timeout is NULL, the
>>               operation will block indefinitely.
> 
> Indeed.

Thanks.

>>               The uaddr2, val, and val3 arguments are ignored.
>>
>>        FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
>> .\" FIXME I think it would be helpful here to say a few more words about
>> .\"       the difference(s) between FUTEX_LOCK_PI and FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI.
>> .\"       Can someone propose something?
>>               This operation tries to acquire the futex  at  uaddr.   It
>>               deals  with  the situation where the TID value at uaddr is
>>               0, but the FUTEX_WAITERS bit is set.   User  space  cannot
>>               handle this condition in a race-free manner
>> .\" FIXME How does the situation in the previous sentence come about?
>> .\"       Probably it would be helpful to say something about that in
>> .\"       the man page.
>> .\" FIXME And *how* does FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI deal with this situation?
> 
> That should be expressed differently:
> 
>      	    This operation tries to acquire the futex at uaddr. It's
>      	    invoked when the user space atomic acquire did not
>      	    succeed because the user space value was not 0.
> 
> 	    The trylock in kernel might succeed because the user space
> 	    value contains stale state (FUTEX_WAITERS and or
> 	    FUTEX_OWNER_DIED). This can happen when the owner of the
> 	    futex died.

???
So by now, I've reworked this text to be:

       FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
              This operation tries to acquire the futex at uaddr.  It is
              invoked when a user-space atomic acquire did  not  succeed
              because the futex word was not 0.

              The trylock in kernel might succeed because the futex word
              contains     stale     state     (FUTEX_WAITERS     and/or
              FUTEX_OWNER_DIED).   This can happen when the owner of the
              futex died.  User space cannot handle this condition in  a
              race-free manner

Okay?

I must admit that I find "the trylock in kernel might succeed"hard
to understand. Could you elaborate a little?


>>               The uaddr2, val, timeout, and val3 arguments are ignored.
>>
>>        FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
>>               This operation wakes the top priority waiter that is wait‐
>>               ing in FUTEX_LOCK_PI on the futex address provided by  the
>>               uaddr argument.
>>
>>               This  is  called when the user space value at uaddr cannot
>>               be changed atomically from a TID (of the owner) to 0.
>>
>>               The uaddr2, val, timeout, and val3 arguments are ignored.
>>
>>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
>>               This operation is a PI-aware variant of FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE.
>>               It    requeues    waiters    that    are    blocked    via
>>               FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI on uaddr from a non-PI source  futex
>>               (uaddr) to a PI target futex (uaddr2).
>>
>>               As with FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE, this operation wakes up a maxi‐
>>               mum of val waiters that are waiting on the futex at uaddr.
>>               However, for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, val is required to be 1
>>               (since the main point is to avoid a thundering herd).  The
>>               remaining  waiters  are removed from the wait queue of the
>>               source futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue  of  the
>>               target futex at uaddr2.
>>
>>               The val2 and val3 arguments serve the same purposes as for
>>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE.
>> .\" FIXME The page at http://locklessinc.com/articles/futex_cheat_sheet/
>> .\"       notes that "priority-inheritance Futex to priority-inheritance
>> .\"       Futex requeues are currently unsupported". Do we need to say
>> .\"       something in the man page about that?
>>
> 
> And they never will be supported because they make no sense at all.  

Okay, thanks. I've removed that FIXME.

>>
>>        FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
>>
>> .\" FIXME I find the next sentence (from tglx) pretty hard to grok.
>> .\"       Could someone explain it a bit more?
>>
>>               Wait operation to wait on a  non-PI  futex  at  uaddr  and
>>               potentially  be  requeued  onto a PI futex at uaddr2.  The
>>               wait operation on uaddr is the same  as  FUTEX_WAIT.
> 
> let me copy the pseudo code from cmp_requeue 
> 
>   lock(A)
>   while (!check_value(V)) {
>   	unlock(A);
> 	block_on(B);
> 	lock(A);
>   };
>   unlock(A);
> 
> So in this case B is the non-PI futex (the wait queue) and A is a PI
> futex. So wait operation on B is the same as in FUTEX_WAIT.

Thanks. I've done a little rewording here. See below.

>> .\" FIXME I'm not quite clear on the meaning of the following sentence.
>> .\"       Is this trying to say that while blocked in a
>> .\"       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI, it could happen that another
>> .\"       task does a FUTEX_WAKE on uaddr that simply causes
>> .\"       a normal wake, with the result that the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
>> .\"       does not complete? What happens then to the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
>> .\"       opertion? Does it remain blocked, or does it unblock
>> .\"       In which case, what does user space see?
> 
> It unblocks and returns -EWOULDBLOCK.

Thanks.

>>               The
>>               waiter   can  be  removed  from  the  wait  on  uaddr  via
>>               FUTEX_WAKE without requeueing on uaddr2.

???
So now I've reworded the opening text describing FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
as follows:

       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
              Wait on  a  non-PI  futex  at  uaddr  and  potentially  be
              requeued  (via a FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI operation in another
              task) onto a PI futex at uaddr2.  The  wait  operation  on
              uaddr is the same as for FUTEX_WAIT.

              The  waiter  can be removed from the wait on uaddr without
              requeueing on uaddr2 via a FUTEX_WAIT operation in another
              task.   In  this case, the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI operation
              returns with the error EWOULDBLOCK.

Okay?


>> .\" FIXME Please check the following. tglx said "The timeout argument
>> .\"       is handled as described in FUTEX_WAIT.", but the truth is
>> .\"       as below, AFAICS
>>
>>               If timeout is not NULL, it specifies  a  timeout  for  the
>>               wait  operation;  this  timeout is interpreted as outlined
>>               above  in  the  description  of  the  FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME
>>               option.   If  timeout  is  NULL,  the  operation can block
>>               indefinitely.
>>
>>               The val3 argument is ignored.
> 
> Correct

Thanks.

>> .\" FIXME Re the preceding sentence... Actually 'val3' is internally set to
>> .\"       FUTEX_BITSET_MATCH_ANY before calling futex_wait_requeue_pi().
>> .\"       I'm not sure we need to say anything about this though.
>> .\"       Comments?
> 
> That's a kernel internal and can be removed

Thanks.

>>
>>               The FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI  and  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI  were
>>               added  to  support a fairly specific use case: support for
>>               priority-inheritance-aware POSIX threads  condition  vari‐
>>               ables.  The idea is that these operations should always be
>>               paired, in order to ensure that user space and the  kernel
>>               remain in sync.  Thus, in the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI opera‐
>>               tion, the user-space application pre-specifies the  target
>>               of    the    requeue    that    takes    place    in   the
>>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI operation.
>>
>> RETURN VALUE

[...]

>> ERRORS
>>        EACCES No read access to the memory of a futex word.
>>
>>        EAGAIN (FUTEX_WAIT, FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET, FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI) The
>>               value pointed to by uaddr was not equal  to  the  expected
>>               value val at the time of the call.
>>
>>               Note:  on Linux, the symbolic names EAGAIN and EWOULDBLOCK
>>               (both of which appear in different  parts  of  the  kernel
>>               futex code) have the same value.
>>
>>        EAGAIN (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE,    FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)   The   value
>>               pointed to by uaddr is not equal  to  the  expected  value
>>               val3.   (This  probably  indicates  a  race;  use the safe
>>               FUTEX_WAKE now.)
>> .\" FIXME: Is the preceding sentence "(This probably...") correct?
>> .\" [I would prefer to remove this sentence. --triegel@redhat.com]
> 
> This part should be removed:
> 
>       "(This  probably  indicates  a  race;  use the safe FUTEX_WAKE now.)

Thanks. Done.

>>
>>        EAGAIN (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,  FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,   FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
>>               The    futex    owner    thread    ID    of   uaddr   (for
>>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI: uaddr2) is about to  exit,  but  has
>>               not yet handled the internal state cleanup.  Try again.
>>
>> .\" FIXME XXX Should there be an EAGAIN case for FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI?
>> .\"       It seems so, looking at the handling of the rt_mutex_trylock()
>> .\"       call in futex_lock_pi()
>> .\"       (Davidlohr also thinks so.)
> 
>   Yes. It's the same internal logic so it can return EAGAIN

Thanks.

>>        EDEADLK
>>               (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,   FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
>>               The futex word at uaddr is already locked by the caller.
>>
>>        EDEADLK
>>
>> .\" FIXME I reworded tglx's text somewhat; is the following okay?
>>
>>               (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) While requeueing a waiter to the PI
>>               futex  for the futex word at uaddr2, the kernel detected a
>>               deadlock.
> 
> Yes		

Thanks.

>>
>> .\" FIXME XXX I see that kernel/locking/rtmutex.c uses EDEADLK in some
>> .\"       places, and EDEADLOCK in others. On almost all architectures
>> .\"       these constants are synonymous. Is there a reason that both
>> .\"       names are used?
> 
> No. We should probably fix that.

Okay.

[...]

>>        EINVAL (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,   FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,  FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI)  The
>>               kernel detected an inconsistency  between  the  user-space
>>               state  at  uaddr  and  the  kernel  state.  This indicates
>>               either state corruption or that the kernel found a  waiter
>>               on    uaddr   which   is   waiting   via   FUTEX_WAIT   or
>>               FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET.
> 
>> .\" FIXME Above, tglx did not mention the "state corruption" case for
>> .\"       FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI, but I have added it, since I'm estimating
>> .\"       that it also applied for FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI.
>> .\"       So, does that case also apply for FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI?
> 
> Yes

Thanks.


>>
>>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) The kernel  detected  an  inconsis‐
>>               tency  between the user-space state at uaddr2 and the ker‐
>>               nel state; that is, the kernel  detected  a  waiter  which
>>               waits via FUTEX_WAIT on uaddr2.
>> .\" FIXME In the preceding sentence, tglx did not mention FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET,
>> .\"       but should that not also be included here?
> 
> Yes  	    

Thanks. I added "[via FUTEX_WAIT] or FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET".

>>
>>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)  The  kernel  detected an inconsis‐
>>               tency between the user-space state at uaddr and the kernel
>>               state;  that  is, the kernel detected a waiter which waits
>>               via FUTEX_WAIT or FUTEX_WAIT_BITESET on uaddr.
>>
>>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) The kernel  detected  an  inconsis‐
>>               tency between the user-space state at uaddr and the kernel
>>               state; that is, the kernel detected a waiter  which  waits
>>               on     uaddr     via     FUTEX_LOCK_PI     (instead     of
>>               FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI).
>>
>> .\" FIXME XXX The following is a reworded version of Darren Hart's text.
>> .\"       Please check that I did not introduce any errors.
>>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) An attempt was made  to  requeue  a
>>               waiter  to a futex other than that specified by the match‐
>>               ing FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI call for that waiter.
> 
> Correct. That handles the case:
> 
> 	 wait_requeue_pi(A, B);
> 	 requeue_pi(A, C);

Thanks.

[...]

>>        ESRCH  (FUTEX_LOCK_PI,   FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI,  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)
>>
>> .\" FIXME I reworded the following sentence a bit differently from
>> .\"       tglx's formulation. Is it okay?
>>
>>               The thread ID in the futex word at uaddr does not exist.
> 
> Right.

Thanks.

>>        ESRCH  (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) 
>>
>> .\" FIXME I reworded the following sentence a bit differently from
>> .\"       tglx's formulation. Is it okay?
>>
>>               The thread ID in the futex word  at
>>               uaddr2 does not exist.
> 
> Right

Thanks.

Cheers,

Michael

PS: The latest version of the page can be found in its entirety at
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/log/?h=draft_futex

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-07-28 21:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
@ 2015-08-08  6:56       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2015-08-08  6:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner, Peter Zijlstra
  Cc: mtk.manpages, Darren Hart, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell,
	Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso,
	Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt, Linux API, Roland McGrath,
	Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka,
	Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert,
	Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

On 07/28/2015 11:03 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:23:51PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>
>>>>        FUTEX_WAKE (since Linux 2.6.0)
>>>>               This  operation  wakes at most val of the waiters that are
>>>>               waiting (e.g., inside FUTEX_WAIT) on the futex word at the
>>>>               address  uaddr.  Most commonly, val is specified as either
>>>>               1 (wake up a single waiter) or INT_MAX (wake up all  wait‐
>>>>               ers).   No  guarantee  is provided about which waiters are
>>>>               awoken (e.g., a waiter with a higher  scheduling  priority
>>>>               is  not  guaranteed to be awoken in preference to a waiter
>>>>               with a lower priority).
>>>
>>> That's only correct up to Linux 2.6.21.
>>>
>>> Since 2.6.22 we have a priority ordered wakeup. For SCHED_OTHER
>>> threads this takes the nice level into account. Threads with the same
>>> priority are woken in FIFO order.
>>
>> Maybe don't mention the effects of SCHED_OTHER, order by nice value is
>> 'wrong'.
> 
> Indeed.
>  
>> Also, this code seems to use plist, which means it won't do the right
>> thing for SCHED_DEADLINE either.
>>
>> Do we want to go fix that?
> 
> I think so.

So, no change to this piece of text then?

Cheers,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-08-05 22:21 ` Darren Hart
@ 2015-08-08  6:57   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2015-08-24 21:47     ` Darren Hart
  2015-08-19 22:40   ` Thomas Gleixner
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2015-08-08  6:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Darren Hart
  Cc: mtk.manpages, Thomas Gleixner, Torvald Riegel,
	Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml,
	Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt, Peter Zijlstra,
	Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet,
	bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker,
	Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

Hi Darren,

Some of my comments below will refer to the reply I just sent
to tglx (and the list) a few minutes ago.

On 08/06/2015 12:21 AM, Darren Hart wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
> 
> Michael, thank you for your diligence in following up and collecting
> reviews. I've attempted to respond to what I was specifically called out
> in or where I had something specific to add in addition to other
> replies.

Thanks!

> After this, will you send another version (numbered for reference
> maybe?) with any remaining FIXMEs that haven't yet been addressed
> according to your accounting?

Yes, I'll be sending out another draft (probably after a short delay,
while I see what further responses come back on the mails I just sent.)
In any case, the latest version of the page can be found at
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/log/?h=draft_futex

>>    Priority-inheritance futexes
>>        Linux supports priority-inheritance (PI) futexes in order to han‐
>>        dle priority-inversion problems that can be encountered with nor‐
>>        mal  futex  locks.  Priority inversion is the problem that occurs
>>        when a high-priority task is blocked waiting to  acquire  a  lock
>>        held  by a low-priority task, while tasks at an intermediate pri‐
>>        ority continuously preempt the low-priority task  from  the  CPU.
>>        Consequently,  the  low-priority  task  makes  no progress toward
>>        releasing the lock, and the high-priority task remains blocked.
>>
>>        Priority inheritance is a mechanism for dealing with  the  prior‐
>>        ity-inversion problem.  With this mechanism, when a high-priority
>>        task becomes blocked by a lock held by a low-priority  task,  the
>>        latter's priority is temporarily raised to that of the former, so
>>        that it is not preempted by any intermediate level tasks, and can
>>        thus  make  progress toward releasing the lock.  To be effective,
>>        priority inheritance must be transitive, meaning that if a  high-
>>        priority task blocks on a lock held by a lower-priority task that
>>        is itself blocked by lock held by  another  intermediate-priority
>>        task  (and  so  on, for chains of arbitrary length), then both of
>>        those task (or more generally, all of the tasks in a lock  chain)
>>        have  their priorities raised to be the same as the high-priority
>>        task.
>>
>> .\" FIXME XXX The following is my attempt at a definition of PI futexes,
>> .\"       based on mail discussions with Darren Hart. Does it seem okay?
>>
>>        From a user-space perspective, what makes a futex PI-aware  is  a
>>        policy  agreement  between  user  space  and the kernel about the
>>        value of the futex word (described in a moment), coupled with the
>>        use  of  the  PI futex operations described below (in particular,
>>        FUTEX_LOCK_PI, FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI, and FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI).
> 
> Yes. Was this intended to be a complete opcode list? 

No. I'll remove that list, in case its misunderstood that way.

> PI operations must
> use paired operations.
> 
> (FUTEX_LOCK_PI | FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI) : FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI
> FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI : FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI

And now I've made that point explicitly in the page. See my comment 
lower down.

> And their PRIVATE counterparts of course (which is assumed as it is a
> flag to the opcode).

Yes. But I don't think that needs to be called out explicitly here (?).

>> .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
>> .\"       The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
>> .\"       (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
>> .\"       significantly. Please check it.
>>
>>        The PI futex operations described below  differ  from  the  other
>>        futex  operations  in  that  they impose policy on the use of the
>>        value of the futex word:
>>
>>        *  If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value  shall  be
>>           0.
>>
>>        *  If  the  lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
>>           thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
>>
>>        *  If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for  the
>>           lock,  then  the  FUTEX_WAITERS  bit shall be set in the futex
>>           word's value; in other words, this value is:
>>
>>               FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
>>
>>
>>        Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
>>        which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.
> 
> The second clause is inappropriate. I don't know if that was yours or
> mine, but non-PI futexes do not have a kernel defined value policy, so
> ==FUTEX_WAITERS cannot be a "permissible state" as any value is
> permissible for non-PI futexes, and none have a kernel defined state.
> 
> Perhaps include a Note under the third bullet as:
> 
> 	  Note: It is invalid for a PI futex word to have no owner and
> 	        FUTEX_WAITERS set.

Done.

>>        With this policy in place, a user-space application can acquire a
>>        not-acquired lock or release a lock that no other threads try  to
> 
> "that no other threads try to acquire" seems out of place. I think
> "atomic instructions" is sufficient to express how contention is
> handled.

Yup, changed.

>>        acquire using atomic instructions executed in user space (e.g., a
>>        compare-and-swap operation such as cmpxchg on the  x86  architec‐
>>        ture).   Acquiring  a  lock simply consists of using compare-and-
>>        swap to atomically set the futex word's value to the caller's TID
>>        if  its  previous  value  was 0.  Releasing a lock requires using
>>        compare-and-swap to set the futex word's value to 0 if the previ‐
>>        ous value was the expected TID.
>>
>>        If a futex is already acquired (i.e., has a nonzero value), wait‐
>>        ers must employ the FUTEX_LOCK_PI operation to acquire the  lock.
>>        If other threads are waiting for the lock, then the FUTEX_WAITERS
>>        bit is set in the futex value; in this case, the lock owner  must
>>        employ the FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI operation to release the lock.
>>
>>        In  the  cases  where  callers  are forced into the kernel (i.e.,
>>        required to perform a futex() call), they then deal directly with
>>        a so-called RT-mutex, a kernel locking mechanism which implements
>>        the required priority-inheritance semantics.  After the  RT-mutex
>>        is  acquired,  the futex value is updated accordingly, before the
>>        calling thread returns to user space.
> 
> This last paragraph relies on kernel implementation rather than
> behavior. If the RT-mutex is renamed or the mechanism is implemented
> differently in futexes, this section will require updating. Is that
> appropriate for a user-space man page?

In the end, I'm not sure. This is (so far) my best attempt at trying
to convey an explanation of the behavior provided by the API.

>> .\" FIXME ===== End of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
>>
>>
>>
>> .\" FIXME We need some explanation in the following paragraph of *why*
>> .\"       it is important to note that "the kernel will update the
>> .\"       futex word's value prior
>>        It is important to note to returning to user space" . Can someone
>>        explain?   that  the  kernel  will  update the futex word's value
>>        prior to returning to user space.  Unlike the other futex  opera‐
>>        tions  described  above, the PI futex operations are designed for
>>        the implementation of very specific IPC mechanisms.
> 
> If the kernel didn't perform the update prior to returning to userspace,
> we could end up in an invalid state. Such as having an owner, but the
> value being 0. Or having waiters, but not having FUTEX_WAITERS set.

So I've now reworked this passage to read:

       It  is  important  to  note that the kernel will update the futex
       word's value prior to returning to user  space.   (This  prevents
       the possibility of the futex word's value ending up in an invalid
       state, such as having an owner but the value being 0,  or  having
       waiters but not having the FUTEX_WAITERS bit set.)

Okay?

>> .\"
>> .\" FIXME XXX In discussing errors for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, Darren Hart
>> .\"       made the observation that "EINVAL is returned if the non-pi 
>> .\"       to pi or op pairing semantics are violated."
>> .\"       Probably there needs to be a general statement about this
>> .\"       requirement, probably located at about this point in the page.
>> .\"       Darren (or someone else), care to take a shot at this?
> 
> We can probably borrow from either the futex.c comments or the
> futex-requeue-pi.txt in Documentation. Also, it is important to note
> that the PI requeue operations require two distinct uadders (although
> that is implied by requiring "non-pi to pi" as a futex cannot be both.
> 
> Or... perhaps something like:
> 
> 	Due to the kernel imposed futex word value policy, PI futex
> 	operations have additional usage requirements:
> 	
> 	FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI must be paired with FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI
> 	and be performed from a non-pi futex to a distinct pi futex.
> 	Failing to do so will return EINVAL. 

For which operation does the EINVAL occur: FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI or 
FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI?

>       Additionally,
> 	FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI requires that nr_wake=1. [We state in the
> 	docs that nr_requeue should be INT_MAX for broadcast and 0 for
> 	signal... but that may be overly specific to libc for this
> 	manual]
> 	
> 	Similarly, FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI must only be called on a futex owned
> 	by the calling thread as defined by the value policy, otherwise
> 	EPERM is returned.
> 
> Were you looking for something like that - or were you looking for
> justification for these requirements?

That's good. I've reworked a piece of the page to be:

       PI futexes are operated on by specifying one of the values listed
       below  in  futex_op.   Note  that the PI futex operations must be
       used as paired operations and  are  subject  to  some  additional
       requirements:

       *  FUTEX_LOCK_PI  and FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI pair with FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI.
          FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI must be called only on a futex  owned  by  the
          calling  thread, as defined by the value policy, otherwise the
          error EPERM results.

       *  FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI pairs with  FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI.   This
          must  be  performed from a non-PI futex to a distinct PI futex
          (or the error EINVAL results).  Additionally, val (the  number
          of  waiters  to  be  woken)  must  be  1  (or the error EINVAL
          results).

But see my question just above. I'll tweak the first bullet point a
little after I hear back from you.

> ...
> 
>>        FUTEX_LOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
>> .\" FIXME I did some significant rewording of tglx's text to create
>> .\"       the text below.
>> .\"       Please check the following paragraph, in case I injected
>> .\"       errors.
>>               This  operation  is used after after an attempt to acquire
>>               the lock  via  an  atomic  user-space  instruction  failed
>>               because  the  futex word has a nonzero value—specifically,
>>               because it contained the  namespace-specific  TID  of  the
>>               lock owner.
> 
> Acked.

Thanks.

>>        FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
>> .\" FIXME I think it would be helpful here to say a few more words about
>> .\"       the difference(s) between FUTEX_LOCK_PI and FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI.
>> .\"       Can someone propose something?
>>               This operation tries to acquire the futex  at  uaddr.   It
>>               deals  with  the situation where the TID value at uaddr is
>>               0, but the FUTEX_WAITERS bit is set.   User  space  cannot
>>               handle this condition in a race-free manner
>> .\" FIXME How does the situation in the previous sentence come about?
>> .\"       Probably it would be helpful to say something about that in
>> .\"       the man page.
>> .\" FIXME And *how* does FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI deal with this situation?
> 
> I guess I wouldn't expect to see this detail in the manual. That state
> should never exist in userspace as far as I understand it, which makes
> it a kernel implementation detail and not relevant to a usage manual.

See my recent reply to Thomas Gleixner.

>>
>>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
>>               This operation is a PI-aware variant of FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE.
>>               It    requeues    waiters    that    are    blocked    via
>>               FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI on uaddr from a non-PI source  futex
>>               (uaddr) to a PI target futex (uaddr2).
>>
>>               As with FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE, this operation wakes up a maxi‐
>>               mum of val waiters that are waiting on the futex at uaddr.
>>               However, for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, val is required to be 1
>>               (since the main point is to avoid a thundering herd).  The
>>               remaining  waiters  are removed from the wait queue of the
>>               source futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue  of  the
>>               target futex at uaddr2.
>>
>>               The val2 and val3 arguments serve the same purposes as for
>>               FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE.
>> .\" FIXME The page at http://locklessinc.com/articles/futex_cheat_sheet/
>> .\"       notes that "priority-inheritance Futex to priority-inheritance
>> .\"       Futex requeues are currently unsupported". Do we need to say
>> .\"       something in the man page about that?
>>
> 
> I noted this above in response to your request for detail about the
> *REQUEUE_PI semantics and error codes. Was that sufficient?

Between input from you and tglx, I think we're okay.

>>        FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
>>
>> .\" FIXME I find the next sentence (from tglx) pretty hard to grok.
>> .\"       Could someone explain it a bit more?
>>
>>               Wait operation to wait on a  non-PI  futex  at  uaddr  and
>>               potentially  be  requeued  onto a PI futex at uaddr2.  The
>>               wait operation on uaddr is the same  as  FUTEX_WAIT.   
> 
> The point tglx is making here is that you must know ahead of time and
> tell the kernel that you intend to use this futex in a REQUEUE_PI
> operation, and not a regular REQUEUE. This is determined by the both the
> op codes as well as the required arguments, which I also documented
> above. Is more detail required?

I think I've got it now. See my revised version of this text in my reply
to tglx, and let me know if anything is amiss.

>> .\" FIXME I'm not quite clear on the meaning of the following sentence.
>> .\"       Is this trying to say that while blocked in a
>> .\"       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI, it could happen that another
>> .\"       task does a FUTEX_WAKE on uaddr that simply causes
>> .\"       a normal wake, with the result that the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
>> .\"       does not complete? What happens then to the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
>> .\"       opertion? Does it remain blocked, or does it unblock
>> .\"       In which case, what does user space see?
>>
>>               The
>>               waiter   can  be  removed  from  the  wait  on  uaddr  via
>>               FUTEX_WAKE without requeueing on uaddr2.
> 
> Userspace should see the task wake and continue executing. This would
> effectively be a cancelation operation - which I didn't think was
> supported. Thomas?

Thomas responded on this point, and I revised my text. Please see
my reply to tglx and let me know if anything is amiss.

>> .\" FIXME XXX The following is a reworded version of Darren Hart's text.
>> .\"       Please check that I did not introduce any errors.
>>        EINVAL (FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI) An attempt was made  to  requeue  a
>>               waiter  to a futex other than that specified by the match‐
>>               ing FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI call for that waiter.
> 
> Acked.

Thanks!

Thanks for the help, Darren!

Cheers,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-08-19 22:40   ` Thomas Gleixner
@ 2015-08-18 12:45     ` Darren Hart
  2015-10-07  9:34     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Darren Hart @ 2015-08-18 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner
  Cc: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages),
	Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek,
	linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt,
	Peter Zijlstra, Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard,
	Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner,
	Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell,
	Heinrich Schuchardt

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:40:46AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Darren Hart wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > > .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> > > .\"       The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
> > > .\"       (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
> > > .\"       significantly. Please check it.
> > > 
> > >        The PI futex operations described below  differ  from  the  other
> > >        futex  operations  in  that  they impose policy on the use of the
> > >        value of the futex word:
> > > 
> > >        *  If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value  shall  be
> > >           0.
> > > 
> > >        *  If  the  lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
> > >           thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
> > > 
> > >        *  If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for  the
> > >           lock,  then  the  FUTEX_WAITERS  bit shall be set in the futex
> > >           word's value; in other words, this value is:
> > > 
> > >               FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
> > > 
> > > 
> > >        Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
> > >        which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.
> > 
> > The second clause is inappropriate. I don't know if that was yours or
> > mine, but non-PI futexes do not have a kernel defined value policy, so
> > ==FUTEX_WAITERS cannot be a "permissible state" as any value is
> > permissible for non-PI futexes, and none have a kernel defined state.
> 
> Depends. If the regular futex is configured as robust, then we have a
> kernel defined value policy as well.

Indeed, thanks for catching that.

-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-08-05 22:21 ` Darren Hart
  2015-08-08  6:57   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
@ 2015-08-19 22:40   ` Thomas Gleixner
  2015-08-18 12:45     ` Darren Hart
  2015-10-07  9:34     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2015-08-19 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Darren Hart
  Cc: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages),
	Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek,
	linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt,
	Peter Zijlstra, Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard,
	Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner,
	Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell,
	Heinrich Schuchardt

On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Darren Hart wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> > .\"       The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
> > .\"       (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
> > .\"       significantly. Please check it.
> > 
> >        The PI futex operations described below  differ  from  the  other
> >        futex  operations  in  that  they impose policy on the use of the
> >        value of the futex word:
> > 
> >        *  If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value  shall  be
> >           0.
> > 
> >        *  If  the  lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
> >           thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
> > 
> >        *  If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for  the
> >           lock,  then  the  FUTEX_WAITERS  bit shall be set in the futex
> >           word's value; in other words, this value is:
> > 
> >               FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
> > 
> > 
> >        Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
> >        which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.
> 
> The second clause is inappropriate. I don't know if that was yours or
> mine, but non-PI futexes do not have a kernel defined value policy, so
> ==FUTEX_WAITERS cannot be a "permissible state" as any value is
> permissible for non-PI futexes, and none have a kernel defined state.

Depends. If the regular futex is configured as robust, then we have a
kernel defined value policy as well.

> > .\" FIXME I'm not quite clear on the meaning of the following sentence.
> > .\"       Is this trying to say that while blocked in a
> > .\"       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI, it could happen that another
> > .\"       task does a FUTEX_WAKE on uaddr that simply causes
> > .\"       a normal wake, with the result that the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> > .\"       does not complete? What happens then to the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> > .\"       opertion? Does it remain blocked, or does it unblock
> > .\"       In which case, what does user space see?
> > 
> >               The
> >               waiter   can  be  removed  from  the  wait  on  uaddr  via
> >               FUTEX_WAKE without requeueing on uaddr2.
> 
> Userspace should see the task wake and continue executing. This would
> effectively be a cancelation operation - which I didn't think was
> supported. Thomas?

We probably never intended to support it, but looking at the code it
works (did not try it though). It returns to user space with
-EWOULDBLOCK. So it basically behaves like any other spurious wakeup.
 
Thanks,

	tglx

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-08-08  6:53   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
@ 2015-08-19 23:17     ` Thomas Gleixner
  2015-08-26  6:29       ` Darren Hart
  2015-10-07  8:30       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2015-08-19 23:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  Cc: Darren Hart, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar,
	Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann,
	Steven Rostedt, Peter Zijlstra, Linux API, Roland McGrath,
	Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka,
	Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert,
	Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

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On Sat, 8 Aug 2015, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.7)
> >>               This  operation  first  checks  whether the location uaddr
> >>               still contains the value  val3.   If  not,  the  operation
> >>               fails  with  the  error  EAGAIN.  Otherwise, the operation
> >>               wakes up a maximum of val waiters that are waiting on  the
> >>               futex  at uaddr.  If there are more than val waiters, then
> >>               the remaining waiters are removed from the wait  queue  of
> >>               the  source  futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue of
> >>               the target futex at uaddr2.  The val2  argument  specifies
> >>               an  upper limit on the number of waiters that are requeued
> >>               to the futex at uaddr2.
> >>
> >> .\" FIXME(Torvald) Is the following correct?  Or is just the decision
> >> .\" which threads to wake or requeue part of the atomic operation?
> >>
> >>               The load from uaddr is  an  atomic  memory  access  (i.e.,
> >>               using atomic machine instructions of the respective archi‐
> >>               tecture).  This load, the comparison with  val3,  and  the
> >>               requeueing  of  any  waiters  are performed atomically and
> >>               totally ordered with respect to other  operations  on  the
> >>               same futex word.
> > 
> > It's atomic as the other atomic operations on the futex word. It's
> > always performed with the proper lock(s) held in the kernel. That
> > means any concurrent operation will serialize on that lock(s). User
> > space has to make sure, that depending on the observed value no
> > concurrent operations happen, but that's something the kernel cannot
> > control.
> 
> ???
> Sorry, I'm not clear here. Is the current text correct then? Or is some
> change needed.

I think we need some change here because the meaning of atomic is
unclear. The basic rules of futexes are:

 - All modifying operations on the futex value have to be done with
   atomic instructions, usually cmpxchg. That applies to both kernel
   and user space.

   That's the atomicity at the futex value level.

 - In the kernel we have to create/modify/destroy state in order to
   provide the blocking/requeueing etc.

   This state needs protection as well. So all operations related to
   the kernel internal state are serialized on the hash bucket
   locks. The hash buckets are a scalability mechanism to avoid
   contention on a single lock protecting all kernel internal
   state. For simplicity reasons you can just think of a global lock
   protecting all kernel internal state.

   If the kernel creates/modifies state then it can be necessary to
   either reread the futex value or modify it. That happens under the
   locks as well.

   So in the case of requeue, we take the proper locks and perform the
   comparison with val3 and the requeueing with the locks held.
   
   So that lock protection makes these operations 'atomic'. The
   correct expression is 'serialized'.
 
> >> .\" FIXME We need some explanation in the following paragraph of *why*
> >> .\"       it is important to note that "the kernel will update the
> >> .\"       futex word's value prior
> >>        It is important to note to returning to user space" . Can someone
> >>        explain?   that  the  kernel  will  update the futex word's value
> >>        prior to returning to user space.  Unlike the other futex  opera‐
> >>        tions  described  above, the PI futex operations are designed for
> >>        the implementation of very specific IPC mechanisms.
> > 
> > If there are multiple waiters on a pi futex then a wake pi operation
> > will wake the first waiter and hand over the lock to this waiter. This
> > includes handing over the rtmutex which represents the futex in the
> > kernel. The strict requirement is that the futex owner and the rtmutex
> > owner must be the same, except for the update period which is
> > serialized by the futex internal locking. That means the kernel must
> > update the user space value prior to returning to user space.

And as noted above: It must update while holding the proper locks.

> >> .\" FIXME XXX In discussing errors for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, Darren Hart
> >> .\"       made the observation that "EINVAL is returned if the non-pi 
> >> .\"       to pi or op pairing semantics are violated."
> >> .\"       Probably there needs to be a general statement about this
> >> .\"       requirement, probably located at about this point in the page.
> >> .\"       Darren (or someone else), care to take a shot at this?
> > 
> > Well, that's hard to describe because the kernel only has a limited
> > way of detecting such mismatches. It only can detect it when there are
> > non PI waiters on a futex and a PI function is called or vice versa.
> 
> Hmmm. Okay, I filed your comments away for reference, but
> hopefully someone can help with some actual text.

I let Darren come up with something sensible :)
 
> >> .\" FIXME Somewhere on this page (I guess under the discussion of PI
> >> .\"       futexes) we need a discussion of the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit.
> >> .\"       Can someone propose a text?
> > 
> > If a futex has a rtmutex associated in the kernel, i.e. when there are
> > blocked waiters, and the owner of the futex/rtmutex dies unexpectedly,
> > then the kernel cleans up the rtmutex (as it holds a reference to the
> > dying task) and hands it over to the next waiter. That requires that
> > the user space value is updated accordingly. The kernel sets the
> > FUTEX_OWNER_DIED in the user space value along with the TID of the new
> > owner. User space is responsible for cleaning this up, though there
> > are cases where the kernel does the cleanup.
> >  
> > The FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit can also be set on uncontended futexes, where
> > the kernel has no state associated. This happens via the robust futex
> > mechanism. In that case the futex value will be set to
> > FUTEX_OWNER_DIED. The robust futex mechanism is also available for non
> > PI futexes.
> 
> ???
> So, I added part of that text to the page, as follows:
> 
>        If  a futex has an associated RT-mutex in the kernel (i.e., there
>        are blocked waiters) and the owner  of  the  futex/RT-mutex  dies
>        unexpectedly, then the kernel cleans up the RT-mutex and hands it
>        over to the next waiter.  This in turn requires  that  the  user-
>        space  value  is  updated  accordingly.  To indicate that this is
>        required, the kernel sets the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit in  the  futex
>        word  along  with  the thread ID of the new owner.  User space is
>        then responsible for cleaning this up  (though  there  are  cases
>        where the kernel does the cleanup).
> 
> Okay?
> 
> I think the last sentence still requires a little work though. What does
> user space need to do in terms of clean up?

User space has usually state as well. So the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit
tells userspace that it needs to cleanup the stale state left over by
the dead owner.
 
> >> .\" FIXME In the next line, what type of "priority" are we talking about?
> >> .\"       Realtime priorities for SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR?
> >> .\"       Or something else?
> >>
> >>               The
> >>               enqueueing  of  the waiter is in descending priority order
> >>               if more than one waiter exists.  
> > 
> > That also covers sched deadline.
> 
> ???
> Thanks. If the realm is restricted purely to SCHED_OTHER (SCHED_NORMAL)
> processes, does the nice value come into play also?

No. SCHED_OTHER/NORMAL tasks are handled in FIFO order.
 
> So by now, I've reworked this text to be:
> 
>        FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
>               This operation tries to acquire the futex at uaddr.  It is
>               invoked when a user-space atomic acquire did  not  succeed
>               because the futex word was not 0.
> 
>               The trylock in kernel might succeed because the futex word
>               contains     stale     state     (FUTEX_WAITERS     and/or
>               FUTEX_OWNER_DIED).   This can happen when the owner of the
>               futex died.  User space cannot handle this condition in  a
>               race-free manner
> 
> Okay?
> 
> I must admit that I find "the trylock in kernel might succeed"hard
> to understand. Could you elaborate a little?

If the user space value has stale state, then the kernel can fix that
up and acquire the futex.
 
> ???
> So now I've reworded the opening text describing FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> as follows:
> 
>        FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
>               Wait on  a  non-PI  futex  at  uaddr  and  potentially  be
>               requeued  (via a FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI operation in another
>               task) onto a PI futex at uaddr2.  The  wait  operation  on
>               uaddr is the same as for FUTEX_WAIT.
> 
>               The  waiter  can be removed from the wait on uaddr without
>               requeueing on uaddr2 via a FUTEX_WAIT operation in another

s/FUTEX_WAIT/FUTEX_WAKE/

>               task.   In  this case, the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI operation
>               returns with the error EWOULDBLOCK.
> 
> Okay?

Yes.

Thanks,

	tglx

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-08-08  6:57   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
@ 2015-08-24 21:47     ` Darren Hart
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Darren Hart @ 2015-08-24 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  Cc: Thomas Gleixner, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell,
	Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso,
	Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt, Peter Zijlstra, Linux API,
	Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet,
	bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker,
	Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 08:57:35AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:

...

> >> .\" FIXME ===== End of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> .\" FIXME We need some explanation in the following paragraph of *why*
> >> .\"       it is important to note that "the kernel will update the
> >> .\"       futex word's value prior
> >>        It is important to note to returning to user space" . Can someone
> >>        explain?   that  the  kernel  will  update the futex word's value
> >>        prior to returning to user space.  Unlike the other futex  opera‐
> >>        tions  described  above, the PI futex operations are designed for
> >>        the implementation of very specific IPC mechanisms.
> > 
> > If the kernel didn't perform the update prior to returning to userspace,
> > we could end up in an invalid state. Such as having an owner, but the
> > value being 0. Or having waiters, but not having FUTEX_WAITERS set.
> 
> So I've now reworked this passage to read:
> 
>        It  is  important  to  note that the kernel will update the futex
>        word's value prior to returning to user  space.   (This  prevents
>        the possibility of the futex word's value ending up in an invalid
>        state, such as having an owner but the value being 0,  or  having
>        waiters but not having the FUTEX_WAITERS bit set.)
> 
> Okay?

Yes.

> 
> >> .\"
> >> .\" FIXME XXX In discussing errors for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, Darren Hart
> >> .\"       made the observation that "EINVAL is returned if the non-pi 
> >> .\"       to pi or op pairing semantics are violated."
> >> .\"       Probably there needs to be a general statement about this
> >> .\"       requirement, probably located at about this point in the page.
> >> .\"       Darren (or someone else), care to take a shot at this?
> > 
> > We can probably borrow from either the futex.c comments or the
> > futex-requeue-pi.txt in Documentation. Also, it is important to note
> > that the PI requeue operations require two distinct uadders (although
> > that is implied by requiring "non-pi to pi" as a futex cannot be both.
> > 
> > Or... perhaps something like:
> > 
> > 	Due to the kernel imposed futex word value policy, PI futex
> > 	operations have additional usage requirements:
> > 	
> > 	FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI must be paired with FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI
> > 	and be performed from a non-pi futex to a distinct pi futex.
> > 	Failing to do so will return EINVAL. 
> 
> For which operation does the EINVAL occur: FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI or 
> FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI?

FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI can return -EINVAL if called with invalid parameters, such
as uaddr==uaddr2, or (in the case of SHARED futexes), the associated keys match
(meaning it's the same futex word - shared memory, inode, etc.). This can't
happen if the stated policy of requeueing from non-pi to pi is followed as the
same word cannot be both non-pi and pi at the same time, requiring them to be
unique futex words.

FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI will fail similarly if uaddr and uaddr2 are the same futex
word. Also, if nr_wake != 1.

But, to the point I was making above, FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI must reque uaddr to
same uaddr2 specified in the previous FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI call.
FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI sets up the operation, FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI completes it,
and they must agree on uaddr and uaddr2.

...

> > And their PRIVATE counterparts of course (which is assumed as it is a
> > flag to the opcode).
> 
> Yes. But I don't think that needs to be called out explicitly here (?).


Agreed.

> 
> >> .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> >> .\"       The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
> >> .\"       (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
> >> .\"       significantly. Please check it.
> >>
> >>        The PI futex operations described below  differ  from  the  other
> >>        futex  operations  in  that  they impose policy on the use of the
> >>        value of the futex word:
> >>
> >>        *  If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value  shall  be
> >>           0.
> >>
> >>        *  If  the  lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
> >>           thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
> >>
> >>        *  If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for  the
> >>           lock,  then  the  FUTEX_WAITERS  bit shall be set in the futex
> >>           word's value; in other words, this value is:
> >>
> >>               FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
> >>
> >>
> >>        Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
> >>        which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.
> > 
> > The second clause is inappropriate. I don't know if that was yours or
> > mine, but non-PI futexes do not have a kernel defined value policy, so
> > ==FUTEX_WAITERS cannot be a "permissible state" as any value is
> > permissible for non-PI futexes, and none have a kernel defined state.
> > 
> > Perhaps include a Note under the third bullet as:
> > 
> > 	  Note: It is invalid for a PI futex word to have no owner and
> > 	        FUTEX_WAITERS set.
> 
> Done.
> 
> >>        With this policy in place, a user-space application can acquire a
> >>        not-acquired lock or release a lock that no other threads try  to
> > 
> > "that no other threads try to acquire" seems out of place. I think
> > "atomic instructions" is sufficient to express how contention is
> > handled.
> 
> Yup, changed.
> 
> >>        acquire using atomic instructions executed in user space (e.g., a
> >>        compare-and-swap operation such as cmpxchg on the  x86  architec‐
> >>        ture).   Acquiring  a  lock simply consists of using compare-and-
> >>        swap to atomically set the futex word's value to the caller's TID
> >>        if  its  previous  value  was 0.  Releasing a lock requires using
> >>        compare-and-swap to set the futex word's value to 0 if the previ‐
> >>        ous value was the expected TID.
> >>
> >>        If a futex is already acquired (i.e., has a nonzero value), wait‐
> >>        ers must employ the FUTEX_LOCK_PI operation to acquire the  lock.
> >>        If other threads are waiting for the lock, then the FUTEX_WAITERS
> >>        bit is set in the futex value; in this case, the lock owner  must
> >>        employ the FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI operation to release the lock.
> >>
> >>        In  the  cases  where  callers  are forced into the kernel (i.e.,
> >>        required to perform a futex() call), they then deal directly with
> >>        a so-called RT-mutex, a kernel locking mechanism which implements
> >>        the required priority-inheritance semantics.  After the  RT-mutex
> >>        is  acquired,  the futex value is updated accordingly, before the
> >>        calling thread returns to user space.
> > 
> > This last paragraph relies on kernel implementation rather than
> > behavior. If the RT-mutex is renamed or the mechanism is implemented
> > differently in futexes, this section will require updating. Is that
> > appropriate for a user-space man page?
> 
> In the end, I'm not sure. This is (so far) my best attempt at trying
> to convey an explanation of the behavior provided by the API.
> 
>           results).
> 
> But see my question just above. I'll tweak the first bullet point a
> little after I hear back from you.

Arg, lost context. Which question?

In my humble opinion, the paragraph about RT-mutex above should perhaps instead
read something like:


	    In  the  cases  where  callers  are forced into the kernel (i.e.,
	    required to perform a futex() call), they then deal directly with
	    Linux kernel internal mechanisms which implement the required
	    priority-inheritance semantics.  Once the internal locking structure
	    is  acquired,  the futex value is updated accordingly, before the
	    calling thread returns to user space.

I'm not terribly particular about this, but in my opinion, we should not refer
to internal-only kernel structures in the man page. Feel free to ignore, or to
defer to a differing opinion from Thomas or others.

Thanks for all your work on this!

-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-08-19 23:17     ` Thomas Gleixner
@ 2015-08-26  6:29       ` Darren Hart
  2015-10-07  8:30       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Darren Hart @ 2015-08-26  6:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner
  Cc: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages),
	Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek,
	linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt,
	Peter Zijlstra, Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard,
	Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner,
	Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell,
	Heinrich Schuchardt

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 01:17:03AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:

...

> > >> .\" FIXME XXX In discussing errors for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, Darren Hart
> > >> .\"       made the observation that "EINVAL is returned if the non-pi 
> > >> .\"       to pi or op pairing semantics are violated."
> > >> .\"       Probably there needs to be a general statement about this
> > >> .\"       requirement, probably located at about this point in the page.
> > >> .\"       Darren (or someone else), care to take a shot at this?
> > > 
> > > Well, that's hard to describe because the kernel only has a limited
> > > way of detecting such mismatches. It only can detect it when there are
> > > non PI waiters on a futex and a PI function is called or vice versa.
> > 
> > Hmmm. Okay, I filed your comments away for reference, but
> > hopefully someone can help with some actual text.
> 
> I let Darren come up with something sensible :)

Heh, right, no pressure then...

I responded to Michael on this recently, copied here for reference:


FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI can return -EINVAL if called with invalid parameters, such
as uaddr==uaddr2, or (in the case of SHARED futexes), the associated keys match
(meaning it's the same futex word - shared memory, inode, etc.). This can't
happen if the stated policy of requeueing from non-pi to pi is followed as the
same word cannot be both non-pi and pi at the same time, requiring them to be
unique futex words.

FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI will fail similarly if uaddr and uaddr2 are the same futex
word. Also, if nr_wake != 1.

But, to the point I was making above, FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI must requeue uaddr to
the same uaddr2 specified in the previous FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI call.
FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI sets up the operation, FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI completes it,
and they must agree on uaddr and uaddr2.


Michael, are you still looking for something more from me, or is this FIXME now
complete?



-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-08-19 23:17     ` Thomas Gleixner
  2015-08-26  6:29       ` Darren Hart
@ 2015-10-07  8:30       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2015-10-08 14:36         ` Darren Hart
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2015-10-07  8:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner
  Cc: mtk.manpages, Darren Hart, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell,
	Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso,
	Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt, Peter Zijlstra, Linux API,
	Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet,
	bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker,
	Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

Hello Thomas,

Thanks for the follow up!

Some open questions below are marked with the string ###.

On 08/19/2015 04:17 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Aug 2015, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>>>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.7)
>>>>               This  operation  first  checks  whether the location uaddr
>>>>               still contains the value  val3.   If  not,  the  operation
>>>>               fails  with  the  error  EAGAIN.  Otherwise, the operation
>>>>               wakes up a maximum of val waiters that are waiting on  the
>>>>               futex  at uaddr.  If there are more than val waiters, then
>>>>               the remaining waiters are removed from the wait  queue  of
>>>>               the  source  futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue of
>>>>               the target futex at uaddr2.  The val2  argument  specifies
>>>>               an  upper limit on the number of waiters that are requeued
>>>>               to the futex at uaddr2.
>>>>
>>>> .\" FIXME(Torvald) Is the following correct?  Or is just the decision
>>>> .\" which threads to wake or requeue part of the atomic operation?
>>>>
>>>>               The load from uaddr is  an  atomic  memory  access  (i.e.,
>>>>               using atomic machine instructions of the respective archi‐
>>>>               tecture).  This load, the comparison with  val3,  and  the
>>>>               requeueing  of  any  waiters  are performed atomically and
>>>>               totally ordered with respect to other  operations  on  the
>>>>               same futex word.
>>>
>>> It's atomic as the other atomic operations on the futex word. It's
>>> always performed with the proper lock(s) held in the kernel. That
>>> means any concurrent operation will serialize on that lock(s). User
>>> space has to make sure, that depending on the observed value no
>>> concurrent operations happen, but that's something the kernel cannot
>>> control.
>>
>> ???
>> Sorry, I'm not clear here. Is the current text correct then? Or is some
>> change needed.
> 
> I think we need some change here because the meaning of atomic is
> unclear. The basic rules of futexes are:
> 
>  - All modifying operations on the futex value have to be done with
>    atomic instructions, usually cmpxchg. That applies to both kernel
>    and user space.
> 
>    That's the atomicity at the futex value level.
> 
>  - In the kernel we have to create/modify/destroy state in order to
>    provide the blocking/requeueing etc.
> 
>    This state needs protection as well. So all operations related to
>    the kernel internal state are serialized on the hash bucket
>    locks. The hash buckets are a scalability mechanism to avoid
>    contention on a single lock protecting all kernel internal
>    state. For simplicity reasons you can just think of a global lock
>    protecting all kernel internal state.
> 
>    If the kernel creates/modifies state then it can be necessary to
>    either reread the futex value or modify it. That happens under the
>    locks as well.
> 
>    So in the case of requeue, we take the proper locks and perform the
>    comparison with val3 and the requeueing with the locks held.
>    
>    So that lock protection makes these operations 'atomic'. The
>    correct expression is 'serialized'.

###
So, here, i think I need some specific pointers on the precise text
changes that are required. Let's talk about this f2f. For convenience,
here's the relevant text once again quoted:

       FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.7)
              This  operation  first  checks  whether the location uaddr
              still contains the value  val3.   If  not,  the  operation
              fails  with  the  error  EAGAIN.  Otherwise, the operation
              wakes up a maximum of val waiters that are waiting on  the
              futex  at uaddr.  If there are more than val waiters, then
              the remaining waiters are removed from the wait  queue  of
              the  source  futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue of
              the target futex at uaddr2.  The val2  argument  specifies
              an  upper limit on the number of waiters that are requeued
              to the futex at uaddr2.

              The load from uaddr is  an  atomic  memory  access  (i.e.,
              using atomic machine instructions of the respective archi‐
              tecture).  This load, the comparison with  val3,  and  the
              requeueing  of  any  waiters  are performed atomically and
              totally ordered with respect to other  operations  on  the
              same futex word.


>>>> .\" FIXME We need some explanation in the following paragraph of *why*
>>>> .\"       it is important to note that "the kernel will update the
>>>> .\"       futex word's value prior
>>>>        It is important to note to returning to user space" . Can someone
>>>>        explain?   that  the  kernel  will  update the futex word's value
>>>>        prior to returning to user space.  Unlike the other futex  opera‐
>>>>        tions  described  above, the PI futex operations are designed for
>>>>        the implementation of very specific IPC mechanisms.
>>>
>>> If there are multiple waiters on a pi futex then a wake pi operation
>>> will wake the first waiter and hand over the lock to this waiter. This
>>> includes handing over the rtmutex which represents the futex in the
>>> kernel. The strict requirement is that the futex owner and the rtmutex
>>> owner must be the same, except for the update period which is
>>> serialized by the futex internal locking. That means the kernel must
>>> update the user space value prior to returning to user space.
> 
> And as noted above: It must update while holding the proper locks.

(Okay.)


>>>> .\" FIXME XXX In discussing errors for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, Darren Hart
>>>> .\"       made the observation that "EINVAL is returned if the non-pi 
>>>> .\"       to pi or op pairing semantics are violated."
>>>> .\"       Probably there needs to be a general statement about this
>>>> .\"       requirement, probably located at about this point in the page.
>>>> .\"       Darren (or someone else), care to take a shot at this?
>>>
>>> Well, that's hard to describe because the kernel only has a limited
>>> way of detecting such mismatches. It only can detect it when there are
>>> non PI waiters on a futex and a PI function is called or vice versa.
>>
>> Hmmm. Okay, I filed your comments away for reference, but
>> hopefully someone can help with some actual text.
> 
> I let Darren come up with something sensible :)

Okay, let's see if Darren has something to say.

>>>> .\" FIXME Somewhere on this page (I guess under the discussion of PI
>>>> .\"       futexes) we need a discussion of the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit.
>>>> .\"       Can someone propose a text?
>>>
>>> If a futex has a rtmutex associated in the kernel, i.e. when there are
>>> blocked waiters, and the owner of the futex/rtmutex dies unexpectedly,
>>> then the kernel cleans up the rtmutex (as it holds a reference to the
>>> dying task) and hands it over to the next waiter. That requires that
>>> the user space value is updated accordingly. The kernel sets the
>>> FUTEX_OWNER_DIED in the user space value along with the TID of the new
>>> owner. User space is responsible for cleaning this up, though there
>>> are cases where the kernel does the cleanup.
>>>  
>>> The FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit can also be set on uncontended futexes, where
>>> the kernel has no state associated. This happens via the robust futex
>>> mechanism. In that case the futex value will be set to
>>> FUTEX_OWNER_DIED. The robust futex mechanism is also available for non
>>> PI futexes.
>>
>> ???
>> So, I added part of that text to the page, as follows:
>>
>>        If  a futex has an associated RT-mutex in the kernel (i.e., there
>>        are blocked waiters) and the owner  of  the  futex/RT-mutex  dies
>>        unexpectedly, then the kernel cleans up the RT-mutex and hands it
>>        over to the next waiter.  This in turn requires  that  the  user-
>>        space  value  is  updated  accordingly.  To indicate that this is
>>        required, the kernel sets the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit in  the  futex
>>        word  along  with  the thread ID of the new owner.  User space is
>>        then responsible for cleaning this up  (though  there  are  cases
>>        where the kernel does the cleanup).
>>
>> Okay?
>>
>> I think the last sentence still requires a little work though. What does
>> user space need to do in terms of clean up?
> 
> User space has usually state as well. So the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit
> tells userspace that it needs to cleanup the stale state left over by
> the dead owner.

###
So I changed the last sentence to 

    User space is then responsible for cleaning up the stale state left
    over by the dead owner.

Okay?

>>>> .\" FIXME In the next line, what type of "priority" are we talking about?
>>>> .\"       Realtime priorities for SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR?
>>>> .\"       Or something else?
>>>>
>>>>               The
>>>>               enqueueing  of  the waiter is in descending priority order
>>>>               if more than one waiter exists.  
>>>
>>> That also covers sched deadline.
>>
>> ???
>> Thanks. If the realm is restricted purely to SCHED_OTHER (SCHED_NORMAL)
>> processes, does the nice value come into play also?
> 
> No. SCHED_OTHER/NORMAL tasks are handled in FIFO order.

Okay. Thanks.

>> So by now, I've reworked this text to be:
>>
>>        FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
>>               This operation tries to acquire the futex at uaddr.  It is
>>               invoked when a user-space atomic acquire did  not  succeed
>>               because the futex word was not 0.
>>
>>               The trylock in kernel might succeed because the futex word
>>               contains     stale     state     (FUTEX_WAITERS     and/or
>>               FUTEX_OWNER_DIED).   This can happen when the owner of the
>>               futex died.  User space cannot handle this condition in  a
>>               race-free manner
>>
>> Okay?
>>
>> I must admit that I find "the trylock in kernel might succeed"hard
>> to understand. Could you elaborate a little?
> 
> If the user space value has stale state, then the kernel can fix that
> up and acquire the futex.


Okay, so I made the last sentence:

    User space cannot handle this condition in a race-free manner,
    but the kernel can fix this up and acquire the futex.

Okay?

However, I realize I should have said more clearly why I find the text
hard to understand. As I read this text:

    The trylock in kernel might succeed because the futex word
    contains stale state FUTEX_WAITERS and/or FUTEX_OWNER_DIED).

###

The words "The trylock in kernel might succeed" makes it feel
like a contrast is being drawn with some other scenario, but
it's not clear what that alternative/contrast is. Do you see
what I mean? Let's talk about this f2f.

>> ???
>> So now I've reworded the opening text describing FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
>> as follows:
>>
>>        FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
>>               Wait on  a  non-PI  futex  at  uaddr  and  potentially  be
>>               requeued  (via a FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI operation in another
>>               task) onto a PI futex at uaddr2.  The  wait  operation  on
>>               uaddr is the same as for FUTEX_WAIT.
>>
>>               The  waiter  can be removed from the wait on uaddr without
>>               requeueing on uaddr2 via a FUTEX_WAIT operation in another
> 
> s/FUTEX_WAIT/FUTEX_WAKE/

Thanks. Fixed.

>>               task.   In  this case, the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI operation
>>               returns with the error EWOULDBLOCK.
>>
>> Okay?
> 
> Yes.

Thanks.

Cheers,

Michael



-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-08-19 22:40   ` Thomas Gleixner
  2015-08-18 12:45     ` Darren Hart
@ 2015-10-07  9:34     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2015-10-08 14:46       ` Darren Hart
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2015-10-07  9:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner, Darren Hart
  Cc: mtk.manpages, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar,
	Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann,
	Steven Rostedt, Peter Zijlstra, Linux API, Roland McGrath,
	Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka,
	Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert,
	Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

On 08/19/2015 03:40 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Darren Hart wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>> .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
>>> .\"       The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
>>> .\"       (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
>>> .\"       significantly. Please check it.
>>>
>>>        The PI futex operations described below  differ  from  the  other
>>>        futex  operations  in  that  they impose policy on the use of the
>>>        value of the futex word:
>>>
>>>        *  If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value  shall  be
>>>           0.
>>>
>>>        *  If  the  lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
>>>           thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
>>>
>>>        *  If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for  the
>>>           lock,  then  the  FUTEX_WAITERS  bit shall be set in the futex
>>>           word's value; in other words, this value is:
>>>
>>>               FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
>>>
>>>
>>>        Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
>>>        which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.
>>
>> The second clause is inappropriate. I don't know if that was yours or
>> mine, but non-PI futexes do not have a kernel defined value policy, so
>> ==FUTEX_WAITERS cannot be a "permissible state" as any value is
>> permissible for non-PI futexes, and none have a kernel defined state.
> 
> Depends. If the regular futex is configured as robust, then we have a
> kernel defined value policy as well.

Okay -- so do we need a change to the text here?

>>> .\" FIXME I'm not quite clear on the meaning of the following sentence.
>>> .\"       Is this trying to say that while blocked in a
>>> .\"       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI, it could happen that another
>>> .\"       task does a FUTEX_WAKE on uaddr that simply causes
>>> .\"       a normal wake, with the result that the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
>>> .\"       does not complete? What happens then to the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
>>> .\"       opertion? Does it remain blocked, or does it unblock
>>> .\"       In which case, what does user space see?
>>>
>>>               The
>>>               waiter   can  be  removed  from  the  wait  on  uaddr  via
>>>               FUTEX_WAKE without requeueing on uaddr2.
>>
>> Userspace should see the task wake and continue executing. This would
>> effectively be a cancelation operation - which I didn't think was
>> supported. Thomas?
> 
> We probably never intended to support it, but looking at the code it
> works (did not try it though). It returns to user space with
> -EWOULDBLOCK. So it basically behaves like any other spurious wakeup.

Again, I assume no changes are required to the man page(?).

Cheers,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-10-07  8:30       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
@ 2015-10-08 14:36         ` Darren Hart
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Darren Hart @ 2015-10-08 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  Cc: Thomas Gleixner, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell,
	Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso,
	Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt, Peter Zijlstra, Linux API,
	Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet,
	bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker,
	Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 09:30:46AM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
> 
> Thanks for the follow up!
> 
> Some open questions below are marked with the string ###.

A couple of comments from me below, although I suspect you have this much
covered already.

> 
> On 08/19/2015 04:17 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >>>>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.7)
> >>>>               This  operation  first  checks  whether the location uaddr
> >>>>               still contains the value  val3.   If  not,  the  operation
> >>>>               fails  with  the  error  EAGAIN.  Otherwise, the operation
> >>>>               wakes up a maximum of val waiters that are waiting on  the
> >>>>               futex  at uaddr.  If there are more than val waiters, then
> >>>>               the remaining waiters are removed from the wait  queue  of
> >>>>               the  source  futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue of
> >>>>               the target futex at uaddr2.  The val2  argument  specifies
> >>>>               an  upper limit on the number of waiters that are requeued
> >>>>               to the futex at uaddr2.
> >>>>
> >>>> .\" FIXME(Torvald) Is the following correct?  Or is just the decision
> >>>> .\" which threads to wake or requeue part of the atomic operation?
> >>>>
> >>>>               The load from uaddr is  an  atomic  memory  access  (i.e.,
> >>>>               using atomic machine instructions of the respective archi‐
> >>>>               tecture).  This load, the comparison with  val3,  and  the
> >>>>               requeueing  of  any  waiters  are performed atomically and
> >>>>               totally ordered with respect to other  operations  on  the
> >>>>               same futex word.
> >>>
> >>> It's atomic as the other atomic operations on the futex word. It's
> >>> always performed with the proper lock(s) held in the kernel. That
> >>> means any concurrent operation will serialize on that lock(s). User
> >>> space has to make sure, that depending on the observed value no
> >>> concurrent operations happen, but that's something the kernel cannot
> >>> control.
> >>
> >> ???
> >> Sorry, I'm not clear here. Is the current text correct then? Or is some
> >> change needed.
> > 
> > I think we need some change here because the meaning of atomic is
> > unclear. The basic rules of futexes are:
> > 
> >  - All modifying operations on the futex value have to be done with
> >    atomic instructions, usually cmpxchg. That applies to both kernel
> >    and user space.
> > 
> >    That's the atomicity at the futex value level.
> > 
> >  - In the kernel we have to create/modify/destroy state in order to
> >    provide the blocking/requeueing etc.
> > 
> >    This state needs protection as well. So all operations related to
> >    the kernel internal state are serialized on the hash bucket
> >    locks. The hash buckets are a scalability mechanism to avoid
> >    contention on a single lock protecting all kernel internal
> >    state. For simplicity reasons you can just think of a global lock
> >    protecting all kernel internal state.
> > 
> >    If the kernel creates/modifies state then it can be necessary to
> >    either reread the futex value or modify it. That happens under the
> >    locks as well.
> > 
> >    So in the case of requeue, we take the proper locks and perform the
> >    comparison with val3 and the requeueing with the locks held.
> >    
> >    So that lock protection makes these operations 'atomic'. The
> >    correct expression is 'serialized'.
> 
> ###
> So, here, i think I need some specific pointers on the precise text
> changes that are required. Let's talk about this f2f. For convenience,
> here's the relevant text once again quoted:

Not speaking for tglx, but I think the point here is to distinguish between
atomic (as in cmpxchg comparison tests performed on the futex word) and
serialized (as in the management of futex hashbuckets and task states).

> 
>        FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE (since Linux 2.6.7)
>               This  operation  first  checks  whether the location uaddr
>               still contains the value  val3.   If  not,  the  operation
>               fails  with  the  error  EAGAIN.  Otherwise, the operation

Here you might explain the _CMP_ qualifier and note atomicity of the operation:

The _CMP_ refers to the verification of the userspace state as specified by
through the arguments. This operation first atomically compares the value at
uaddr with the value val3 ...


>               wakes up a maximum of val waiters that are waiting on  the
>               futex  at uaddr.  If there are more than val waiters, then
>               the remaining waiters are removed from the wait  queue  of
>               the  source  futex at uaddr and added to the wait queue of
>               the target futex at uaddr2.  The val2  argument  specifies
>               an  upper limit on the number of waiters that are requeued
>               to the futex at uaddr2.

And here, perhaps:
These operations are serialized on locks protecting the internal datastructures
storing the kernel futex state.

I believe this paragraph is sufficient, but I'll comment on the second paragraph
below:

> 
>               The load from uaddr is  an  atomic  memory  access  (i.e.,
>               using atomic machine instructions of the respective archi‐
>               tecture).  This load, the comparison with  val3,

We are "atomic" up to here. ^

And what follows below is serialized by the hash bucket locks.:

>                and  the
>               requeueing  of  any  waiters  are performed atomically and
>               totally ordered with respect to other  operations  on  the
>               same futex word.

I personally think this is too much implementation detail for the man page,
especially for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE which does not manipulate the futex word value
from kernel space (We're not discussing PI here). The first paragraph is
sufficient to fully describe the guaranteed behavior of the opcode.




> 
> 
> >>>> .\" FIXME We need some explanation in the following paragraph of *why*
> >>>> .\"       it is important to note that "the kernel will update the
> >>>> .\"       futex word's value prior
> >>>>        It is important to note to returning to user space" . Can someone
> >>>>        explain?   that  the  kernel  will  update the futex word's value
> >>>>        prior to returning to user space.  Unlike the other futex  opera‐
> >>>>        tions  described  above, the PI futex operations are designed for
> >>>>        the implementation of very specific IPC mechanisms.
> >>>
> >>> If there are multiple waiters on a pi futex then a wake pi operation
> >>> will wake the first waiter and hand over the lock to this waiter. This
> >>> includes handing over the rtmutex which represents the futex in the
> >>> kernel. The strict requirement is that the futex owner and the rtmutex
> >>> owner must be the same, except for the update period which is
> >>> serialized by the futex internal locking. That means the kernel must
> >>> update the user space value prior to returning to user space.
> > 
> > And as noted above: It must update while holding the proper locks.
> 
> (Okay.)
> 
> 
> >>>> .\" FIXME XXX In discussing errors for FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI, Darren Hart
> >>>> .\"       made the observation that "EINVAL is returned if the non-pi 
> >>>> .\"       to pi or op pairing semantics are violated."
> >>>> .\"       Probably there needs to be a general statement about this
> >>>> .\"       requirement, probably located at about this point in the page.
> >>>> .\"       Darren (or someone else), care to take a shot at this?
> >>>
> >>> Well, that's hard to describe because the kernel only has a limited
> >>> way of detecting such mismatches. It only can detect it when there are
> >>> non PI waiters on a futex and a PI function is called or vice versa.
> >>
> >> Hmmm. Okay, I filed your comments away for reference, but
> >> hopefully someone can help with some actual text.
> > 
> > I let Darren come up with something sensible :)
> 
> Okay, let's see if Darren has something to say.
> 
> >>>> .\" FIXME Somewhere on this page (I guess under the discussion of PI
> >>>> .\"       futexes) we need a discussion of the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit.
> >>>> .\"       Can someone propose a text?
> >>>
> >>> If a futex has a rtmutex associated in the kernel, i.e. when there are
> >>> blocked waiters, and the owner of the futex/rtmutex dies unexpectedly,
> >>> then the kernel cleans up the rtmutex (as it holds a reference to the
> >>> dying task) and hands it over to the next waiter. That requires that
> >>> the user space value is updated accordingly. The kernel sets the
> >>> FUTEX_OWNER_DIED in the user space value along with the TID of the new
> >>> owner. User space is responsible for cleaning this up, though there
> >>> are cases where the kernel does the cleanup.
> >>>  
> >>> The FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit can also be set on uncontended futexes, where
> >>> the kernel has no state associated. This happens via the robust futex
> >>> mechanism. In that case the futex value will be set to
> >>> FUTEX_OWNER_DIED. The robust futex mechanism is also available for non
> >>> PI futexes.
> >>
> >> ???
> >> So, I added part of that text to the page, as follows:
> >>
> >>        If  a futex has an associated RT-mutex in the kernel (i.e., there
> >>        are blocked waiters) and the owner  of  the  futex/RT-mutex  dies
> >>        unexpectedly, then the kernel cleans up the RT-mutex and hands it
> >>        over to the next waiter.  This in turn requires  that  the  user-
> >>        space  value  is  updated  accordingly.  To indicate that this is
> >>        required, the kernel sets the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit in  the  futex
> >>        word  along  with  the thread ID of the new owner.  User space is
> >>        then responsible for cleaning this up  (though  there  are  cases
> >>        where the kernel does the cleanup).
> >>
> >> Okay?
> >>
> >> I think the last sentence still requires a little work though. What does
> >> user space need to do in terms of clean up?
> > 
> > User space has usually state as well. So the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit
> > tells userspace that it needs to cleanup the stale state left over by
> > the dead owner.
> 
> ###
> So I changed the last sentence to 
> 
>     User space is then responsible for cleaning up the stale state left
>     over by the dead owner.
> 
> Okay?

We can't say much beyond it's userspace's problem now because how it's handled
will vary widely. It might be worth mentioning that userspace can use
FUTEX_OWNER_DIED to detect this state and handle it appropriately.

> 
> >>>> .\" FIXME In the next line, what type of "priority" are we talking about?
> >>>> .\"       Realtime priorities for SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR?
> >>>> .\"       Or something else?
> >>>>
> >>>>               The
> >>>>               enqueueing  of  the waiter is in descending priority order
> >>>>               if more than one waiter exists.  
> >>>
> >>> That also covers sched deadline.
> >>
> >> ???
> >> Thanks. If the realm is restricted purely to SCHED_OTHER (SCHED_NORMAL)
> >> processes, does the nice value come into play also?
> > 
> > No. SCHED_OTHER/NORMAL tasks are handled in FIFO order.
> 
> Okay. Thanks.
> 
> >> So by now, I've reworked this text to be:
> >>
> >>        FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI (since Linux 2.6.18)
> >>               This operation tries to acquire the futex at uaddr.  It is
> >>               invoked when a user-space atomic acquire did  not  succeed
> >>               because the futex word was not 0.
> >>
> >>               The trylock in kernel might succeed because the futex word
> >>               contains     stale     state     (FUTEX_WAITERS     and/or
> >>               FUTEX_OWNER_DIED).   This can happen when the owner of the
> >>               futex died.  User space cannot handle this condition in  a
> >>               race-free manner
> >>
> >> Okay?
> >>
> >> I must admit that I find "the trylock in kernel might succeed"hard
> >> to understand. Could you elaborate a little?
> > 
> > If the user space value has stale state, then the kernel can fix that
> > up and acquire the futex.
> 
> 
> Okay, so I made the last sentence:
> 
>     User space cannot handle this condition in a race-free manner,
>     but the kernel can fix this up and acquire the futex.
> 
> Okay?
> 
> However, I realize I should have said more clearly why I find the text
> hard to understand. As I read this text:
> 
>     The trylock in kernel might succeed because the futex word
>     contains stale state FUTEX_WAITERS and/or FUTEX_OWNER_DIED).
> 
> ###
> 
> The words "The trylock in kernel might succeed" makes it feel
> like a contrast is being drawn with some other scenario, but
> it's not clear what that alternative/contrast is. Do you see
> what I mean? Let's talk about this f2f.

I presume you got this covered in Dublin:
The trylock in the kernel has more state, so it can independently verify the
flags that userspace must trust implicitly.

> 
> >> ???
> >> So now I've reworded the opening text describing FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> >> as follows:
> >>
> >>        FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI (since Linux 2.6.31)
> >>               Wait on  a  non-PI  futex  at  uaddr  and  potentially  be
> >>               requeued  (via a FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI operation in another
> >>               task) onto a PI futex at uaddr2.  The  wait  operation  on
> >>               uaddr is the same as for FUTEX_WAIT.
> >>
> >>               The  waiter  can be removed from the wait on uaddr without
> >>               requeueing on uaddr2 via a FUTEX_WAIT operation in another
> > 
> > s/FUTEX_WAIT/FUTEX_WAKE/
> 
> Thanks. Fixed.
> 
> >>               task.   In  this case, the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI operation
> >>               returns with the error EWOULDBLOCK.
> >>
> >> Okay?
> > 
> > Yes.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael Kerrisk
> Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
> Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/
> 

-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
  2015-10-07  9:34     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
@ 2015-10-08 14:46       ` Darren Hart
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Darren Hart @ 2015-10-08 14:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  Cc: Thomas Gleixner, Torvald Riegel, Carlos O'Donell,
	Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek, linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso,
	Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt, Peter Zijlstra, Linux API,
	Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard, Eric Dumazet,
	bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner, Rich Felker,
	Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell, Heinrich Schuchardt

On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 10:34:19AM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On 08/19/2015 03:40 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Darren Hart wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >>> .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> >>> .\"       The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
> >>> .\"       (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
> >>> .\"       significantly. Please check it.
> >>>
> >>>        The PI futex operations described below  differ  from  the  other
> >>>        futex  operations  in  that  they impose policy on the use of the
> >>>        value of the futex word:
> >>>
> >>>        *  If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value  shall  be
> >>>           0.
> >>>
> >>>        *  If  the  lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
> >>>           thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
> >>>
> >>>        *  If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for  the
> >>>           lock,  then  the  FUTEX_WAITERS  bit shall be set in the futex
> >>>           word's value; in other words, this value is:
> >>>
> >>>               FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>        Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
> >>>        which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.
> >>
> >> The second clause is inappropriate. I don't know if that was yours or
> >> mine, but non-PI futexes do not have a kernel defined value policy, so
> >> ==FUTEX_WAITERS cannot be a "permissible state" as any value is
> >> permissible for non-PI futexes, and none have a kernel defined state.
> > 
> > Depends. If the regular futex is configured as robust, then we have a
> > kernel defined value policy as well.
> 

Right.

> Okay -- so do we need a change to the text here?

Hrm. We probably need a way to indicate that kernel-defined futex word
value policy only applies to PI and or ROBUST futexes.


> 
> >>> .\" FIXME I'm not quite clear on the meaning of the following sentence.
> >>> .\"       Is this trying to say that while blocked in a
> >>> .\"       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI, it could happen that another
> >>> .\"       task does a FUTEX_WAKE on uaddr that simply causes
> >>> .\"       a normal wake, with the result that the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> >>> .\"       does not complete? What happens then to the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> >>> .\"       opertion? Does it remain blocked, or does it unblock
> >>> .\"       In which case, what does user space see?
> >>>
> >>>               The
> >>>               waiter   can  be  removed  from  the  wait  on  uaddr  via
> >>>               FUTEX_WAKE without requeueing on uaddr2.
> >>
> >> Userspace should see the task wake and continue executing. This would
> >> effectively be a cancelation operation - which I didn't think was
> >> supported. Thomas?
> > 
> > We probably never intended to support it, but looking at the code it
> > works (did not try it though). It returns to user space with
> > -EWOULDBLOCK. So it basically behaves like any other spurious wakeup.
> 
> Again, I assume no changes are required to the man page(?).

I'd rather not document this as supported or intended behavior.
FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI is documented as being paired with and only with
FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI. Anything else is undefined behavior.

If we want to support a cancelation, it should be deliberate - and we should
probably test it ;-)


-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center

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* Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
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@ 2015-07-27 14:44 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2015-07-27 14:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Heinrich Schuchardt, Thomas Gleixner, Darren Hart, Torvald Riegel
  Cc: mtk.manpages, Carlos O'Donell, Ingo Molnar, Jakub Jelinek,
	linux-man, lkml, Davidlohr Bueso, Arnd Bergmann, Steven Rostedt,
	Peter Zijlstra, Linux API, Roland McGrath, Anton Blanchard,
	Eric Dumazet, bill o gallmeister, Jan Kiszka, Daniel Wagner,
	Rich Felker, Andy Lutomirski, bert hubert, Rusty Russell

On 07/27/2015 04:17 PM, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> instruction. A thread maybe unable
> 
> to << missing word
> 
> acquire a lock because it is
> already acquired by another thread. It then may pass the lock's
> flag as futex word and the value representing the acquired state
> as the expected value to a futex() wait operation.

Thanks, Heinrich. Fixed.

Cheers,

Michael





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