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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 09:19:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151007071948.GT2881@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151006210539.GZ3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 02:05:39PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:52:00PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 01:18:01PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:05:38PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > 
> > > > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree.c b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > > > > index b9d9e0249e2f..93c0f23c3e45 100644
> > > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > > > > @@ -337,12 +337,14 @@ static void rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle(void)
> > > > >   */
> > > > >  void rcu_note_context_switch(void)
> > > > >  {
> > > > > +	barrier(); /* Avoid RCU read-side critical sections leaking down. */
> > > > >  	trace_rcu_utilization(TPS("Start context switch"));
> > > > >  	rcu_sched_qs();
> > > > >  	rcu_preempt_note_context_switch();
> > > > >  	if (unlikely(raw_cpu_read(rcu_sched_qs_mask)))
> > > > >  		rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle();
> > > > >  	trace_rcu_utilization(TPS("End context switch"));
> > > > > +	barrier(); /* Avoid RCU read-side critical sections leaking up. */
> > > > >  }
> > > > >  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(rcu_note_context_switch);
> > > > 
> > > > These OTOH could be fixed with a noinline, such that the compiler may
> > > > never inline it, even with whole-program-optimizations, thereby
> > > > guaranteeing a function call boundary or compiler barrier.
> > > 
> > > I like the barrier() with the comment.  I expect it will be a bit more
> > > robust against toolchain changes.
> > 
> > Don't you in fact already rely on the fact that schedule() is a function
> > call and will not be inlined? (it doesn't have noinline and I suppose
> > whole program optimizers could go funny on it).
> 
> Probably pretty much everywhere I call schedule().  But I was thinking
> that barrier() and the beginning and end of an external function didn't
> need to do anything.  Is that incorrect?

No. My point was more that by removing barrier() from
rcu_read_{un,}lock() you hard rely on schedule() being a compiler
barrier, and I was thinking you need it to be a function call for that,
but this is incorrect.

Even without it being a function call, there's explicit compiler
barriers in there that even whole program optimizers cannot make go
away, so my bad for creating confusion.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-07  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-06 16:13 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.4 Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/13] sched: Export sched_setscheduler_nocheck Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/13] rcu: Use rcu_callback_t in call_rcu*() and friends Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/13] rcu: Use call_rcu_func_t to replace explicit type equivalents Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:20     ` [Kernel networking modules.] OSI levels 2 & 3, Assistance - If anyone knows anyone in the US. North West region John D Allen, Leveridge Systems INC
2015-10-06 16:44     ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:16         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:42           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:46             ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 20:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:52                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:05                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:19                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/13] rcu: Eliminate panic when silly boot-time fanout specified Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/13] rcu: Add online/offline info to stall warning message Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:15     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/13] rcu: Move preemption disabling out of __srcu_read_lock() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:18     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:43         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 18:07           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:20             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/13] rcu: Finish folding ->fqs_state into ->gp_state Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/13] rcu: Correct comment for values of ->gp_state field Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/13] rcu: Add rcu_pointer_handoff() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:21     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:31       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:36         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 20:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:02       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/13] rculist: Make list_entry_rcu() use lockless_dereference() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26  8:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-26 14:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26 18:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-27  3:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-27  5:19           ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:33             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-28  8:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-28 20:35               ` Patrick Marlier
2015-10-29  0:00                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-29  2:13                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-28 20:58             ` [tip:core/rcu] fs/writeback, rcu: Don't use list_entry_rcu() for pointer offsetting in bdi_split_work_to_wbs() tip-bot for Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:32           ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/13] rculist: Make list_entry_rcu() use lockless_dereference() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/13] rcu: Remove deprecated rcu_lockdep_assert() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/13] rculist: Use WRITE_ONCE() when deleting from reader-visible list Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:23 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.4 Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:38   ` Paul E. McKenney

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