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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/13] rcu: Add rcu_pointer_handoff()
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 09:22:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151007072227.GV2881@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151006210243.GX3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 02:02:43PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:27:41PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 09:13:45AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > >  /**
> > > + * rcu_pointer_handoff() - Hand off a pointer from RCU to other mechanism
> > > + * @p: The pointer to hand off
> > > + *
> > > + * This is simply an identity function, but it documents where a pointer
> > > + * is handed off from RCU to some other synchronization mechanism, for
> > > + * example, reference counting or locking.  In C11, it would map to
> > > + * kill_dependency().  It could be used as follows:
> > > + *
> > > + *	rcu_read_lock();
> > > + *	p = rcu_dereference(gp);
> > > + *	long_lived = is_long_lived(p);
> > > + *	if (long_lived) {
> > > + *		if (!atomic_inc_not_zero(p->refcnt))
> > > + *			long_lived = false;
> > > + *		else
> > > + *			p = rcu_pointer_handoff(p);
> > > + *	}
> > > + *	rcu_read_unlock();
> > > + */
> > > +#define rcu_pointer_handoff(p) (p)
> > 
> > Will you actually be using this? It seems a tad pointless to add if you
> > don't.
> 
> Some of the LLVM guys believe that they can diagnose RCU pointer leaks
> if this is used.  But yes, it does need to be used.

The thing is, I'm not convinced this is a 'sane' interface. Its _far_
too easy to forget. It doesn't make any kind of sense either, which is
part of why its hard to remember.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-07  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-06 16:13 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.4 Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/13] sched: Export sched_setscheduler_nocheck Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/13] rcu: Use rcu_callback_t in call_rcu*() and friends Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/13] rcu: Use call_rcu_func_t to replace explicit type equivalents Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:20     ` [Kernel networking modules.] OSI levels 2 & 3, Assistance - If anyone knows anyone in the US. North West region John D Allen, Leveridge Systems INC
2015-10-06 16:44     ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:16         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:42           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:46             ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 20:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:52                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:05                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:19                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/13] rcu: Eliminate panic when silly boot-time fanout specified Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/13] rcu: Add online/offline info to stall warning message Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:15     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/13] rcu: Move preemption disabling out of __srcu_read_lock() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:18     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:43         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 18:07           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:20             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/13] rcu: Finish folding ->fqs_state into ->gp_state Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/13] rcu: Correct comment for values of ->gp_state field Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/13] rcu: Add rcu_pointer_handoff() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:21     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:31       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:36         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 20:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:02       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:22         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-10-07 14:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/13] rculist: Make list_entry_rcu() use lockless_dereference() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26  8:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-26 14:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26 18:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-27  3:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-27  5:19           ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:33             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-28  8:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-28 20:35               ` Patrick Marlier
2015-10-29  0:00                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-29  2:13                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-28 20:58             ` [tip:core/rcu] fs/writeback, rcu: Don't use list_entry_rcu() for pointer offsetting in bdi_split_work_to_wbs() tip-bot for Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:32           ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/13] rculist: Make list_entry_rcu() use lockless_dereference() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/13] rcu: Remove deprecated rcu_lockdep_assert() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/13] rculist: Use WRITE_ONCE() when deleting from reader-visible list Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:23 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.4 Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:38   ` Paul E. McKenney

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