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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/18] rcu: Move rcu_report_exp_rnp() to allow consolidation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 19:12:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151008171203.GR3816@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151008153351.GC3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 08:33:51AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:

> > > o	CPU B therefore moves up the tree, acquiring the parent
> > > 	rcu_node structures' ->lock.  In so doing, it forces full
> > > 	ordering against all prior RCU read-side critical sections
> > > 	of all CPUs corresponding to all leaf rcu_node structures
> > > 	subordinate to the current (non-leaf) rcu_node structure.
> > 
> > And here we iterate the tree and get another lock var involved, here the
> > barrier upgrade will actually do something.
> 
> Yep.  And I am way too lazy to sort out exactly which acquisitions really
> truly need smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() and which don't.  Besides, if I
> tried to sort it out, I would occasionally get it wrong, and this would be
> a real pain to debug.  Therefore, I simply do smp_mb__after_unlock_lock()
> on all acquisitions of the rcu_node structures' ->lock fields.  I can
> actually validate that!  ;-)

This is a whole different line of reasoning once again.

The point remains, that the sole purpose of the barrier upgrade is for
the tree iteration, having some extra (pointless but harmless) instances
does not detract from that.

> Fair enough, but I will be sticking to the simple coding rule that keeps
> RCU out of trouble!

Note that there are rnp->lock acquires without the extra barrier though,
so you seem somewhat inconsistent with your own rule.

See for example:

	rcu_dump_cpu_stacks()
	print_other_cpu_stall()
	print_cpu_stall()

(did not do an exhaustive scan, there might be more)

and yes, that is 'obvious' debug code and not critical to the correct
behaviour of the code, but it is a deviation from 'the rule'.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-08 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-06 16:29 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/18] Expedited grace-period improvements for 4.4 Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/18] rcu: Use rsp->expedited_wq instead of sync_rcu_preempt_exp_wq Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/18] rcu: Move rcu_report_exp_rnp() to allow consolidation Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:58       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07  8:42           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-10-07 11:01             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 11:50               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 12:03                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 12:05                 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-07 12:09                 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-07 12:11                 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-07 12:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 13:44                     ` [kbuild-all] " Fengguang Wu
2015-10-07 13:55                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:21                         ` Fengguang Wu
2015-10-07 14:28                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:18                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 10:24                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:15               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 14:33           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 14:40             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:48               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08  9:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 15:33                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 17:12                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-10-08 17:46                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09  0:10                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09  8:44                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/18] rcu: Consolidate tree setup for synchronize_rcu_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/18] rcu: Use single-stage IPI algorithm for RCU expedited grace period Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 13:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 18:11       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 13:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:44       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 13:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 13:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:14         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08  9:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:13       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/18] rcu: Move synchronize_sched_expedited() to combining tree Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/18] rcu: Rename qs_pending to core_needs_qs Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/18] rcu: Invert passed_quiesce and rename to cpu_no_qs Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/18] rcu: Make ->cpu_no_qs be a union for aggregate OR Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/18] rcu: Switch synchronize_sched_expedited() to IPI Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 14:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:24       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/18] rcu: Stop silencing lockdep false positive for expedited grace periods Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/18] rcu: Stop excluding CPU hotplug in synchronize_sched_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/18] cpu: Remove try_get_online_cpus() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/18] rcu: Prepare for consolidating expedited CPU selection Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/18] rcu: Consolidate " Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 15/18] rcu: Add online/offline info to expedited stall warning message Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 16/18] rcu: Add tasks to expedited stall-warning messages Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 17/18] rcu: Enable stall warnings for synchronize_rcu_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 18/18] rcu: Better hotplug handling for synchronize_sched_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 14:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:26       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08  9:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 15:06           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 15:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 15:19               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 18:01                 ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-09  0:11                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09  0:48                     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-09  3:54                       ` Paul E. McKenney

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