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* Can srcu_read_lock() be called from interrupt context?
@ 2015-11-03  1:56 Yunhong Jiang
  2015-11-03  9:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Yunhong Jiang @ 2015-11-03  1:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: paulmck; +Cc: linux-kernel

Hi, Paul
	I have a question to the srcu_read_lock(). Can it be invoked on 
interrupt context? According to 
http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/kernel/rcu/srcu.c#L292 it can only be 
called from process context, but according to 
http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/include/linux/srcu.h#L213 seems it's ok 
from irq context only if it matches with the srcu_read_unlock. Can you 
please give some hints?

Thanks
--jyh

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* Re: Can srcu_read_lock() be called from interrupt context?
  2015-11-03  1:56 Can srcu_read_lock() be called from interrupt context? Yunhong Jiang
@ 2015-11-03  9:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
  2015-11-03 14:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Paul E. McKenney @ 2015-11-03  9:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Yunhong Jiang; +Cc: linux-kernel, jiangshanlai

On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 05:56:56PM -0800, Yunhong Jiang wrote:
> Hi, Paul
> 	I have a question to the srcu_read_lock(). Can it be invoked on 
> interrupt context? According to 
> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/kernel/rcu/srcu.c#L292 it can only be 
> called from process context, but according to 
> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/include/linux/srcu.h#L213 seems it's ok 
> from irq context only if it matches with the srcu_read_unlock. Can you 
> please give some hints?

Adding Lai Jianshan for his thoughts.

I believe that srcu.h is correct, at least assuming that interrupts do
not nest too deeply.  (If they were to nest four billion deep, then the
->seq[] counter could overflow, defeating the checks, but the CPU stack
would have overflowed long before.)

Lai, am I missing anything here?

							Thanx, Paul


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* Re: Can srcu_read_lock() be called from interrupt context?
  2015-11-03  9:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
@ 2015-11-03 14:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
  2015-11-03 15:15     ` Paul E. McKenney
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2015-11-03 14:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul E. McKenney; +Cc: Yunhong Jiang, linux-kernel, jiangshanlai

On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 01:55:39AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 05:56:56PM -0800, Yunhong Jiang wrote:
> > Hi, Paul
> > 	I have a question to the srcu_read_lock(). Can it be invoked on 
> > interrupt context? According to 
> > http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/kernel/rcu/srcu.c#L292 it can only be 
> > called from process context, but according to 
> > http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/include/linux/srcu.h#L213 seems it's ok 
> > from irq context only if it matches with the srcu_read_unlock. Can you 
> > please give some hints?
> 
> Adding Lai Jianshan for his thoughts.
> 
> I believe that srcu.h is correct, at least assuming that interrupts do
> not nest too deeply.  (If they were to nest four billion deep, then the
> ->seq[] counter could overflow, defeating the checks, but the CPU stack
> would have overflowed long before.)

It seems like a strange constraint to me; not being able to use
srcu_read_lock() from IRQ (or even NMI) context. And looking at the
various implementations of it nothing ever prohibited this.

While srcu _allows_ for sleeping while holding the read side primitives,
it is not required at all.

So I would suggest amending the comment and RCU/checklist.txt.

Even call_srcu() should be IRQ-safe.

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* Re: Can srcu_read_lock() be called from interrupt context?
  2015-11-03 14:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2015-11-03 15:15     ` Paul E. McKenney
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Paul E. McKenney @ 2015-11-03 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Zijlstra; +Cc: Yunhong Jiang, linux-kernel, jiangshanlai

On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 03:47:17PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 01:55:39AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 05:56:56PM -0800, Yunhong Jiang wrote:
> > > Hi, Paul
> > > 	I have a question to the srcu_read_lock(). Can it be invoked on 
> > > interrupt context? According to 
> > > http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/kernel/rcu/srcu.c#L292 it can only be 
> > > called from process context, but according to 
> > > http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/include/linux/srcu.h#L213 seems it's ok 
> > > from irq context only if it matches with the srcu_read_unlock. Can you 
> > > please give some hints?
> > 
> > Adding Lai Jianshan for his thoughts.
> > 
> > I believe that srcu.h is correct, at least assuming that interrupts do
> > not nest too deeply.  (If they were to nest four billion deep, then the
> > ->seq[] counter could overflow, defeating the checks, but the CPU stack
> > would have overflowed long before.)
> 
> It seems like a strange constraint to me; not being able to use
> srcu_read_lock() from IRQ (or even NMI) context. And looking at the
> various implementations of it nothing ever prohibited this.
> 
> While srcu _allows_ for sleeping while holding the read side primitives,
> it is not required at all.
> 
> So I would suggest amending the comment and RCU/checklist.txt.

We need to hear from Lai.  I -think- that it is OK for one srcu_read_lock()
to interrupt another, but I could easily be missing something.

> Even call_srcu() should be IRQ-safe.

Looks plausible to me.  Lai?

							Thanx, Paul


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