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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Fabio Checconi <fchecconi@gmail.com>,
	Arianna Avanzini <avanzini.arianna@gmail.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ulf.hansson@linaro.org, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	broonie@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 10/22] block, bfq: add full hierarchical scheduling and cgroups support
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:14:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160217171404.GW3741@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87934440-FAA0-4B2D-897F-AD78EAF5F54E@linaro.org>

Hello,

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:07:16AM +0100, Paolo Valente wrote:
> > * How's writeback handled?
> 
> If I understood correctly your question, then the answer is that
> there is no special/automatic handling of writeback queues. Thus,
> unless the user explicitly inserts flushing threads in some groups
> and plays with the weights of these groups, these threads will just
> get the default weight, and thus the default treatment for queues in
> the root group. IOW, no privileges. The motivation is that these
> threads serve asynchronous requests, i.e., requests that do not
> cause any delay to the processes that issue them. Therefore, apart
> from higher-level considerations on vm page-flushing pressure, there
> is basically no point in privileging writeback I/O with respect to
> other types of possibly time-sensitive I/O.

So, under cgroup v2, writeback traffic is associated correctly with
the cgroup which caused it.  It's not about privileging writeback IOs
but ensuring that they're correctly attributed and proportinally
controlled according to the configuration.  It seemed that this was
working with bfq but it'd be great if you can test and confirm it.
Please read the writeback section in Documentation/cgroup-v2.txt.

> > * I was testing on the v2 hierarchy with two top-level cgroups one
> >  hosting sequential workload and the other completely random.  While
> >  they eventually converged to a reasonable state, starting up the
> >  sequential workload while the random workload was running was
> >  extremely slow.  It crawled for quite a while.
>
> This is definitely a bug. Could you please (maybe privately?) send
> me the exact commands/script you have used?

Oh I see.  I did something like the following.

1. mkdir cgroup-v2
2. mount -t cgroup2 none cgroup-v2
3. cd cgroup-v2; mkdir asdf fdsa
4. echo +memory +io > cgroup.subtree_control
5. echo 16M > asdf/memory.high; echo 16M > fdsa/memory.high

A-1. echo $$ > asdf/cgroup.procs
A-2. test-rawio.c $DEV 8 16

B-1. echo $$ > fdsa/cgroup.procs
B-2. dd if=/dev/zero of=$TESTFILE_ON_DEV bs=1M

> > * And "echo 100 > io.weight" hung the writing process.
>
> I’m not sure I understood exactly which process you are referring
> to, but I guess I will probably understand it from the commands I
> have asked you to share.

Oh, I ran "echo 100 > asdf/io.weight" after running the above test and
the echoing process just got stuck in the kernel.  I haven't really
investigated it but it seemed pretty easy to reproduce.  If you can't
reproduce it easily, please let me know.  I'll try to dig in.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-17 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-01 22:12 [PATCH RFC 00/22] Replace the CFQ I/O Scheduler with BFQ Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 01/22] block, cfq: remove queue merging for close cooperators Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 02/22] block, cfq: remove close-based preemption Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 03/22] block, cfq: remove deep seek queues logic Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 04/22] block, cfq: remove SSD-related logic Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 05/22] block, cfq: get rid of hierarchical support Paolo Valente
2016-02-10 23:04   ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 06/22] block, cfq: get rid of queue preemption Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 07/22] block, cfq: get rid of workload type Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 08/22] block, cfq: get rid of latency tunables Paolo Valente
2016-02-10 23:05   ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 09/22] block, cfq: replace CFQ with the BFQ-v0 I/O scheduler Paolo Valente
2016-02-11 22:22   ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-12  0:35     ` Mark Brown
2016-02-17 15:57       ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-17 16:02         ` Mark Brown
2016-02-17 17:04           ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-17 18:13             ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-17 19:45               ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-17 19:56                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-17 20:14                   ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-17  9:02     ` Paolo Valente
2016-02-17 17:02       ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-20 10:23         ` Paolo Valente
2016-02-20 11:02           ` Paolo Valente
2016-03-01 18:46           ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-04 17:29             ` Linus Walleij
2016-03-04 17:39               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-04 18:10                 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-03-11 11:16                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-11 13:38                     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-03-05 12:18                 ` Linus Walleij
2016-03-11 11:17                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-11 11:24                     ` Nikolay Borisov
2016-03-11 11:49                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-11 14:53                     ` Linus Walleij
2016-03-09  6:55                 ` Paolo Valente
2016-04-13 19:54                 ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-14  5:03                   ` Mark Brown
2016-03-09  6:34             ` Paolo Valente
2016-04-13 20:41               ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-14 10:23                 ` Paolo Valente
2016-04-14 16:29                   ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-15 14:20                     ` Paolo Valente
2016-04-15 15:08                       ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-15 16:17                         ` Paolo Valente
2016-04-15 19:29                           ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-15 22:08                             ` Paolo Valente
2016-04-15 22:45                               ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-16  6:03                                 ` Paolo Valente
2016-04-15 14:49                     ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 10/22] block, bfq: add full hierarchical scheduling and cgroups support Paolo Valente
2016-02-11 22:28   ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-17  9:07     ` Paolo Valente
2016-02-17 17:14       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2016-02-17 17:45         ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-20  9:32     ` Paolo
2016-04-22 18:13       ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-22 18:19         ` Paolo Valente
2016-04-22 18:41           ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-22 19:05             ` Paolo Valente
2016-04-22 19:32               ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-23  7:07                 ` Paolo Valente
2016-04-25 19:24                   ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-25 20:30                     ` Paolo
2016-05-06 20:20                       ` Paolo Valente
2016-05-12 13:11                         ` Paolo
2016-07-27 16:13                         ` [PATCH RFC V8 00/22] Replace the CFQ I/O Scheduler with BFQ Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 01/22] block, cfq: remove queue merging for close cooperators Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 02/22] block, cfq: remove close-based preemption Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 03/22] block, cfq: remove deep seek queues logic Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 04/22] block, cfq: remove SSD-related logic Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 05/22] block, cfq: get rid of hierarchical support Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 06/22] block, cfq: get rid of queue preemption Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 07/22] block, cfq: get rid of workload type Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 08/22] block, cfq: get rid of latency tunables Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 09/22] block, cfq: replace CFQ with the BFQ-v0 I/O scheduler Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 10/22] block, bfq: add full hierarchical scheduling and cgroups support Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 11/22] block, bfq: improve throughput boosting Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 12/22] block, bfq: modify the peak-rate estimator Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 13/22] block, bfq: add more fairness with writes and slow processes Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 14/22] block, bfq: improve responsiveness Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 15/22] block, bfq: reduce I/O latency for soft real-time applications Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 16/22] block, bfq: preserve a low latency also with NCQ-capable drives Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 17/22] block, bfq: reduce latency during request-pool saturation Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 18/22] block, bfq: add Early Queue Merge (EQM) Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 19/22] block, bfq: reduce idling only in symmetric scenarios Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 20/22] block, bfq: boost the throughput on NCQ-capable flash-based devices Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 21/22] block, bfq: boost the throughput with random I/O on NCQ-capable HDDs Paolo Valente
2016-07-27 16:13                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 22/22] block, bfq: handle bursts of queue activations Paolo Valente
2016-07-28 16:50                           ` [PATCH RFC V8 00/22] Replace the CFQ I/O Scheduler with BFQ Paolo
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 11/22] block, bfq: improve throughput boosting Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 12/22] block, bfq: modify the peak-rate estimator Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 13/22] block, bfq: add more fairness to boost throughput and reduce latency Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 14/22] block, bfq: improve responsiveness Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 15/22] block, bfq: reduce I/O latency for soft real-time applications Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 16/22] block, bfq: preserve a low latency also with NCQ-capable drives Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 17/22] block, bfq: reduce latency during request-pool saturation Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 18/22] block, bfq: add Early Queue Merge (EQM) Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 19/22] block, bfq: reduce idling only in symmetric scenarios Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 20/22] block, bfq: boost the throughput on NCQ-capable flash-based devices Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 21/22] block, bfq: boost the throughput with random I/O on NCQ-capable HDDs Paolo Valente
2016-02-01 22:12 ` [PATCH RFC 22/22] block, bfq: handle bursts of queue activations Paolo Valente

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