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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 18:48:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160407094851.GA1349@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160406082758.GA3554@quack.suse.cz>

Hello,

On (04/06/16 10:27), Jan Kara wrote:
[..]
> > Well, it's good that we have this.
> > 
> > It would be better if it was runtime-controllable - changing boot
> > parameters is a bit of a pain.  In fact with this approach, your
> > zillions-of-scsi-disks scenario becomes less problematic: do the async
> > offloading during the boot process then switch back to the more
> > reliable sync printing late in boot.
> 
> Doing this should be relatively easy. It would be userspace's decision
> whether they want more reliable or faster printk. Sounds fine with me.

I can add it as a separate patch to the series. should be quite trivial.

I have [minor] concerns, though. I can see how, for example, user space
can decide what logging level it wants '1 4 4 7' or anything else, but
how can user space decide what printk implementation it wants to use?

I'm more or less positive not to back-port that `synchronous RW' patch
to the kernels that I use; just because I don't want to give this freedom
to people, sync printk is something I'm trying to run away from.


> > This gets normal scheduling policy, so a spinning userspace SCHED_FIFO
> > task will block printk for ever.  This seems bad.
> 
> I have to research this a bit but won't the SCHED_FIFO task that has
> potentially unbounded amount of work lockup the CPU even though it does
> occasional cond_resched()?

depending on `watchdog_thresh' value, it can take something like 20+
seconds before watchdog will notice softlockup.
so I'm setting printk kthread prio to `MAX_RT_PRIO - 1' as of now,
just in case.

I think I'll leave printk kthread init as a late_initcall. probably
would prefer core/arch/device init calls to happen in sync printk mode.

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-07  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-04 16:57 [PATCH v10 0/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-04 16:57 ` [PATCH v10 1/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-04 22:51   ` Andrew Morton
2016-04-05  5:17     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-05  7:39       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-06  0:19         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-06  8:27     ` Jan Kara
2016-04-07  9:48       ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-04-07 12:08         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-07 13:15           ` Jan Kara
2016-08-10 21:17       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-08-12  9:44         ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-15 14:26           ` Vladislav Levenetz
2016-08-16  9:04             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-18  2:27           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-18  9:33             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-18  9:51               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-18 10:56                 ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-19  6:32                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-19  9:54                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-19 19:00                       ` Jan Kara
2016-08-20  5:24                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-22  4:15                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23 12:19                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-24  1:33                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-25 21:10                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-26  1:56                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-26  8:20                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-30  9:29                                 ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-31  2:31                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-31  9:38                                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-31 12:52                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-01  8:58                                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-02  7:58                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-02 15:15                                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-06  7:16                                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23 13:03                           ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-23 13:48                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-04 16:57 ` [PATCH v10 2/2] printk: Make wake_up_klogd_work_func() async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23  3:32 [PATCH v10 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Andreas Mohr

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