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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	vlevenetz@mm-sol.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:19:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160823121903.GD4866@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160822041520.GA511@swordfish>

On Mon 2016-08-22 13:15:20, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On (08/20/16 14:24), Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > On (08/19/16 21:00), Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > > depending on .config BUG() may never return back -- passing control
> > > > > to do_exit(), so printk_deferred_exit() won't be executed. thus we
> > > > > probably need to have a per-cpu variable that would indicate that
> > > > > we are in deferred_bug. hm... but do we really need deferred BUG()
> > > > > in the first place?
> > > > 
> > > > Good question. I am not aware of any BUG_ON() that would be called from
> > > > wake_up_process() but it is hard to check everything.
> > > > 
> > > > A conservative approach would be to force synchronous printk from
> > > > BUG_ON().
> > > 
> > > Just a quick thought: Cannot we just do printk_deferred_enter() when we are
> > > about to call into the scheduler from printk code and printk_deferred_exit()
> > > when leaving it? That would look like the least error-prone way how
> > > handling this kind of recursion...
> > 
> > interesting idea.
> > printk_deferred_enter() increments preempt count, so there may be additional
> > obstacles and, as a result, ad-hocs, that scheduler people will sincerely hate.
> > need to think more.
> 
> the other thing I just thought of is doing something as follows
> !!!not tested, will not compile, just an idea!!!
> 
> ---
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/printk/printk.c b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> index 6e260a0..bb8d719 100644
> --- a/kernel/printk/printk.c
> +++ b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> @@ -1789,6 +1789,7 @@ asmlinkage int vprintk_emit(int facility, int level,
>         printk_delay();
>  
>         local_irq_save(flags);
> +       printk_nmi_enter();
>         this_cpu = smp_processor_id();

Huh, this looks very interesting but I am afraid that it will not fly.
The problem is that vprintk_nmi() is safe only when it is used
exclusively in NMI.

The following could happen with your code:

/**** normar context ****/
vprintk_emit()
  printk_nmi_enter()
  ...
  wake_up_process()
    WARN()
      printk()
	vprintk_nmi()
	  vsnprintf(..., "0123456789")

	    /* real NMI comes after writing "01234" */
	    /**** NMI context ****/
	    vprintk_nmi();
	      vsnprintf(..., "abcdefghijklmno");

	    /**** normal context ****/
	    /* we finish writing "56789" into the buffer */

=> part of the message from NMI gets broken "abcde56789klmno".

The lockless handling of the NMI per-CPU buffer already is not
trivial. I would be afraid to add more hacks to make
it writable in all contexts.

I am sorry about the bad news. This was so promising on the first
look.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-23 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-04 16:57 [PATCH v10 0/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-04 16:57 ` [PATCH v10 1/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-04 22:51   ` Andrew Morton
2016-04-05  5:17     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-05  7:39       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-06  0:19         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-06  8:27     ` Jan Kara
2016-04-07  9:48       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-07 12:08         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-07 13:15           ` Jan Kara
2016-08-10 21:17       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-08-12  9:44         ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-15 14:26           ` Vladislav Levenetz
2016-08-16  9:04             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-18  2:27           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-18  9:33             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-18  9:51               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-18 10:56                 ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-19  6:32                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-19  9:54                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-19 19:00                       ` Jan Kara
2016-08-20  5:24                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-22  4:15                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23 12:19                             ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2016-08-24  1:33                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-25 21:10                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-26  1:56                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-26  8:20                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-30  9:29                                 ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-31  2:31                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-31  9:38                                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-31 12:52                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-01  8:58                                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-02  7:58                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-02 15:15                                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-06  7:16                                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23 13:03                           ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-23 13:48                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-04 16:57 ` [PATCH v10 2/2] printk: Make wake_up_klogd_work_func() async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23  3:32 [PATCH v10 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Andreas Mohr

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